Maybe you've come across an argument between theist vs atheist about the origin of life. Once the atheist says life came from non life, the theist asks him to explain how.

For the theist, the only correct answer is that God created life.

I invite theists to explain what they mean when they say God created life, given that God also has life.

In d lord's words, I am d way, the truth and d life... He is life in himself. He ddnt create life, he is life.

Cutehector:
In d lord's words, I am d way, the truth and d life... He is life in himself. He ddnt create life, he is life.

To whom do we owe the creation of life then?

undercat:

To whom do we owe the creation of life then?

To sex

Jameselias:
To sex

Haha. Who did who/itself?

Hydrogen when given enough time in a favourable condition can/will turn into a single celled organism... and thats where the evolutionary trend began...

Can we not go through this again?

undercat:


To whom do we owe the creation of life then?

in him we move, live and have our being.

This is what the universe is made of, countless stars burning on hydrogen.
The universe is still expanding (formation process) Their is high chance that it may have not even reached half of its potential yet.

Stars are the birth parents of planets and moons which are the birth parents of life...

What made you think we are different from all you see?

We are all part of one whole (The universe)
We are all from the same stuff...!!!

Think about it..

undercat:


Haha. Who did who/itself?

not sex as u know it. It's the fusion of nagetive and posetive that is sex. There is noting in creation that is not tied to this phenomena, both in element and otherwise, the so called God encompassing this two qualities(hemaphrodite - eg: the sun. ) there for is able to generate life within it's own self and to give life.

johnydon22:
Hydrogen when given enough time in a favourable condition can/will turn into a single celled organism... and thats where the evolutionary trend began...

Can we not go through this again?

How much time?

What constitutes favourable conditions?

What are the characteristics of the single celled organism?

Etc, etc?

I thought scientists were still speculating about how life came about.

Cutehector:
in him we move, live and have our being.

Are we talking about the same thing?

Jameselias:
not sex as u know it. It's the fusion of nagetive and posetive that is sex. There is noting in creation that is not tied to this phenomena, both in element and otherwise, the so called God encompassing this two qualities(hemaphrodite - eg: the sun. ) there for is able to generate life within it's own self and to give life.

I know you're not going to tell me that it was dead before it generated life within itself.

Cutehector:
in him we move, live and have our being.

boy we are not here for primitive talk, in that case then we (including the so called gods) move, live and have our being in earth. Earth in universe, universe in space. Final full stop.

undercat:


I know you're not going to tell me that it was dead before it generated life within itself.

dead is a wrong term broda!.nothing is ever dead for all revolve within the cycle of space and creation includind the so called gods .for that which is, has ever been, and shall ever be, apperance(for grasses etc, birth for mammals) growth or development, and devolution/desolution(death) and reaperance in newer form or state, such is the cycle of things nothing dies that which is not can not be, and that which is, has ever been and shall ever be, iresspective of form. Understand this broda! and u have the keys to eternity (formless)

Jameselias:
dead is a wrong term broda!.nothing is ever dead for all revolve within the cycle of space and creation includind the so called gods .for that which is, has ever been, and shall ever be, apperance(for grasses etc, birth for mammals) growth or development, and devolution/desolution(death) and reaperance in newer form or state, such is the cycle of things nothing dies that which is not can not be, and that which is, has ever been and shall ever be, iresspective of form. Understand this broda! and u have the keys to eternity (formless)

Do you mean that everything is alive, and that being alive is simply the natural state of affairs for everything?

undercat:


Do you mean that everything is alive, and that being alive is simply the natural state of affairs for everything?

seeing that all(animate and inanimate) is matter,atom, and energy what then is life? do not be afraid of ur own conclution broda! Reason it out ur self. All is one. The one is all.

Jameselias:
seeing that all(animate and inanimate) is matter,atom, and energy what then is life? do not be afraid of ur own conclution broda! Reason it out ur self. All is one. The one is all.

That was exactly my point... we are all part of one huge universe

Jameselias:
seeing that all(animate and inanimate) is matter,atom, and energy what then is life? do not be afraid of ur own conclution broda! Reason it out ur self. All is one. The one is all.

Okay. How would you define life?

johnydon22:


That was exactly my point... we are all part of one huge universe

I think your point was that some things in the universe are alive and some things are not. Jameselias is saying that everything is alive.

undercat:


I think your point was that some things in the universe are alive and some things are not. Jameselias is saying that everything is alive.

No my point is we are all part of the same whole (universe)... read it again..

johnydon22:
This is what the universe is made of, countless stars burning on hydrogen.
The universe is still expanding (formation process) Their is high chance that it may have not even reached half of its potential yet.

Stars are the birth parents of planets and moons which are the birth parents of life...

What made you think we are different from all you see?

We are all part of one whole (The universe)
We are all from the same stuff...!!!

Think about it..

johnydon22:


No my point is we are all part of the same whole (universe)... read it again..

This is rather obvious. I don't think that there is anything for us to be part of other than the universe.

Here is the post I was referring to:

johnydon22:
Hydrogen when given enough time in a favourable condition can/will turn into a single celled organism... and thats where the evolutionary trend began...
Can we not go through this again?

[quote author=johnydon22 post=30630984]Hydrogen when given enough time in a favourable condition can/will turn into a single celled organism... and thats where the evolutionary trend began...

Can we not go through this again?

undercat:

Okay. How would you define life?

after reading all that i have posted in this thread do u still have to ask this? Afterall the earth has been termed the living planet and not half dead half alive,

undercat:

Okay. How would you define life?

after reading all that i have posted in this thread do u still have to ask this? Afterall the earth has been termed the living planet and not half dead half alive, as science think.

Jameselias:
after reading all that i have posted in this thread do u still have to ask this? Afterall the earth has been termed the living planet and not half dead half alive, as science think.

What I mean is: what makes you say a thing is alive?

You said everything in the universe has life, if I'm not mistaken. If this is literally true, it means that after you die, the corpse will somehow still be alive, no matter the state of decomposition. This seems absurd. So, I'd like to know what you refer to when you say "life".

I think the earth is called living planet because of the animal/plant life on it.

Jameselias:
seeing that all(animate and inanimate) is matter,atom, and energy what then is life? do not be afraid of ur own conclution broda! Reason it out ur self. All is one. The one is all.

undercat:


What I mean is: what makes you say a thing is alive?

You said everything in the universe has life, if I'm not mistaken. If this is literally true, it means that after you die, the corpse will somehow still be alive, no matter the state of decomposition. This seems absurd. So, I'd like to know what you refer to when you say "life".

I think the earth is called living planet because of the animal/plant life on it.

humans only used that word(life) to describe their own ideas, there for it is not an absolute term,i hope u got what i mean?stop using the term dead unless properly defined, i refer u to my posts once more. Be enlightened, thanks.

Jameselias:
dead is a wrong term broda!.nothing is ever dead for all revolve within the cycle of space and creation includind the so called gods .for that which is, has ever been, and shall ever be, apperance(for grasses etc, birth for mammals) growth or development, and devolution/desolution(death) and reaperance in newer form or state, such is the cycle of things nothing dies that which is not can not be, and that which is, has ever been and shall ever be, iresspective of form. Understand this broda! and u have the keys to eternity (formless)

undercat:


What I mean is: what makes you say a thing is alive?

You said everything in the universe has life, if I'm not mistaken. If this is literally true, it means that after you die, the corpse will somehow still be alive, no matter the state of decomposition. This seems absurd. So, I'd like to know what you refer to when you say "life".

I think the earth is called living planet because of the animal/plant life on it.

humans only used that word(life) to describe their own ideas, there for it is not an absolute term,i hope u got what i mean?stop using the term dead unless properly defined, i refer u to my posts once more. Be enlightened, thanks.

Jameselias:
humans only used that word(life) to describe their own ideas, there for it is not an absolute term,i hope u got what i mean?stop using the term dead unless properly defined, i refer u to my posts once more. Be enlightened, thanks.

Look at it this way: how are you certain that there is life in a rock, or in a car, or in a photon? What do you look for to make the call that a rock has life?

Anything that has life is life. Life is an inherent property of anything that lives.

If all life must come from a previous life, it makes sense to ask who gave god life. Else I can also assume no one gave other living things life.

undercat:


Look at it this way: how are you certain that there is life in a rock, or in a car, or in a photon? What do you look for to make the call that a rock has life?

forget car's let's stick to natural things pls, now back to ur question: how are you certain that there is life in a rock, Look at it this way, the so called characteristics of a living thing are acqtually human ideas used to show or define their understanding of things as it were, and as we know, that human ideas, knowledge, and understanding, of any thing in creation is highly,highly, incompetent and insufficient, grossly limited, there for we can not base our believe of what is alive or not, in or on this highly,highly, incompetent and insufficient, grossly limited, knowledge of ours, esp: human science, atleast not at this level of our evolution, remenber not all the so called living things today were accepted as so, at the same time, some were added later as more discoveries were made, more knowledge gained, and enlightenment dawned and so shall it continue.

You're assuming that everything is alive just because man doesn't know all there is to know. I don't really see the connection, but no wahala.

ooman:
Anything that has life is life. Life is an inherent property of anything that lives.

If all life must come from a previous life, it makes sense to ask who gave god life. Else I can also assume no one gave other living things life.

Exactly. A theist tends to want to know the specifics of how life came about, unless you say it's God's doing. Then they don't care about the specifics.