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Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by BodePolScience: 11:54am On Apr 12, 2015 |
franksonautos:that's just it, telling someone to give his life because of hell. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 11:54am On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith: The message of Jesus was the 'Gospel' i.e. 'Good news'. It was a reconciliation of God with man, through God's grace, even in man's sinfulness. How the doctrine of 'Hell FIRE' came about, is still a mystery to me. Religious leaders capitalise on fear of ignorant people to propagate such message. How do you reconcile a 'Merciful & Gracious' God with one that sends people to eternal fire for every little sin they commit |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Yinkash100(m): 12:06pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
na naija we dey, imagin say one pastor com tell you say: "God love you follow him, he go take care of you." your reply go be lyk: wait he dey twitter, wetin i go gain if i follow am? Another pastor com dey tell you say if you sin you go die, you go burn forever. which pastor you go change ur heart first? |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by simplisity(m): 12:08pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Grace of is abundant but u can receive it only if u make urself available and willing to have it. It is d only instrument that can help christians to live above sin and victoriou against d wk of Hell. Hell is real, but God's mercy upon man through d death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is Abundant and has destroyed d wk of hell against man. But, that does not mean that we should continue in sin so that grace will abound, bcs it is writen that d soul that sinnet shall. Run away frm sin and any occation of it bcs God has done all for us by sendin His only son to die for us, so if continue in sin Hell is waiting to receive u. 2 Likes |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Ezibless: 12:10pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Timoleon: You clearly didn't comprehend my illustration Mr. I shoul let God answer him? God won't come down from heaven to answer him o Y'knw,not everyone hear God audibly. So people just have to get the message through others,his word e.t.c |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by simplisity(m): 12:13pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Grace of God is abundant but u can receive it only if u make urself available and willing to have it. It is d only instrument that can help christians to live above sin and victoriou against d wk of Hell. Hell is real, but God's mercy upon man through d death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is Abundant and has destroyed d wk of hell against man. But, that does not mean that we should continue in sin so that grace will abound, bcs it is writen that d soul that sinnet shall die.Run away frm sin and any occation of it bcs, God has done all for us by sendin His only son to die for us, so if continue in sin Hell is waiting to receive u. 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Timoleon(m): 12:14pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Ezibless: and your message 7s dat god created man to suffer cos only through suffering can man appreciate god? clap for yourself! |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by eebruboss(m): 12:18pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
howardriddle:But the knowledge of the HELLFIRE shouldn't be unknown to christians as a caution when time of need arises! |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by prettyJoy22(f): 12:25pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
The message of hell scares me and gilts me back to reality,it makes me think of life after death & were I would spend eternity. But when I get into d real world(away from all d holiness N being sober)I tend to get carried away N b4 u know it am doing those things which I've promised not to do again. On the other hand the message of grace sounds to good to be true to me a times,but I use it as an opium for my wrong doings when asking God for forgiveness. I've come to conclude that it is the sincere love of God that would keep us on track & not d message or fear of hell. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Ezibless: 12:26pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Timoleon: lol read my first comment PROPERLY. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by ojnnaco(m): 12:26pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Cutehector: Thank God am a repented Soul |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Cutehector(m): 12:27pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
ojnnaco:we all sin everyday bro. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Finland(m): 12:28pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Hell is a Myth. How can one burn forever? even Sun will not last forever. nothing lasts forever. The bible says " his mercy endureth forever" So how can his mercy endureth forever and his Punishment and Anger endureth forever as well? It does not add up. One of this statement is false. I think it's the eternal anger/punishment statement. Mercy is for the sinners and it endures forever |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by ojnnaco(m): 12:28pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Finland(m): 12:29pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
prettyJoy22: Hell is a Myth. How can one burn forever? even Sun will not last forever. nothing lasts forever. The bible says " his mercy endureth forever" So how can his mercy endureth forever and his Punishment and Anger endureth forever as well? It does not add up. One of this statement is false. I think it's the eternal anger/punishment statement. Mercy is for the sinners and it endures forever |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by minwafor: 12:30pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
It is expedient for preachers to maintain a perfect blend of the 2 message of grace and hell. The work of grace is to deliver us from hell. It is imperative for us to know that God loves us and dont wish for any of us to perish. However, the bible makes us to know that our," God is a consuming fire", Heb 12:29. We can also see in the book of Rev 20, that God gave the breakdown of the last judgement. If only people knew how the borders of hell are continously being expanded, the pastor and everybody will frequently remind people of this great eternal irreversible danger. In preaching, believer should tell the people about the dangers of hell and the grace that have been provided to avert this hell. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 12:35pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Ezibless:You're wasting ur time here my dear......... |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Ezibless: 12:40pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Godvilla:I just noticed o |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Nobody: 12:44pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Simple message of Hell leaves you with Negativity and Suicidal Tendencies but messages of Grace lifts up your spirit and make you feel more relevant to God rather than giving you a view of you being a fuel for Hell! I live under grace not under law! |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by omojeesu(m): 1:01pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
CANT BE SURE. ONLY GOD KNOWS. HOWEVER, I THINK IT IS 'GRACE'. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by dayounglor(m): 1:11pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Both messages when justly taught leads a sinner to salvation and sanctification. We understand that God is loving and as such doesn't want us to burn in hell and has thereby made an escape route (his Son) though we didn't deserve it (while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us). That is Grace. His undeserved love that rids us of our sinful man. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by MISSCONGENIALITY(f): 1:24pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
HrtBrkSteve:and how to marry a good husband and bear children, when a couple stay for 2yrs after marriage without having babies, our men of wisdom begin to tell them how their enemies are fighting them and thereby colllecting their money. All these preachers no lnonger talk about living a gOod life but all they tell people is miracle. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by ogahug: 1:24pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith:Each of the messages is incomplete on its own. The ideal message combines the two aspects. Taking one in isolation makes the message lopsided. This is because Grace can be limited if abused thus making room for punishment. On the other hand, Grace is made available so that hell can be averted. Hence, the message of Grace and punishment should go together. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by brainiac5(m): 1:32pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Actually messages about hell and endtime are meant to warn and caution people to be vigilant in christ, but most times it even scares people even pastors. But the message about grace is more humane to sinners and righteous alike depicting God's true nature of love, this kind of message links in salvation to sinners, but if these messages are from God we have to listen |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:40pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
When Jesus Christ sees large crowd of people during his time .. He always felt pity towards them and showed lovin concern by teaching them about Gods Kingdom as a lovin solution to mankinds problem , I will never forget that day when " well , on getting out , he saw a large crowd, and he was moved with pity for them, because they were as sheep without a shepherd, And he started to teach them many things" Mark 6:34. He was moved with pity to mankinds suffering ...... HOW I WISH TODAYS CHRISTIAN CAN EMULATE HIS EXAMPLE , modern christians dont care about others , they are only concerned about themselves, their own salvation unconcerned for fellow beings Many people are suffering, i see lame, blind , deaf , and crippled beens whom are not born again or christians ... Yet christians will tell u that this DEAF AND DUMB persons , BILLIONS OF THEM ALL OVER THE WORLD will go to their fabricated hellfire myth despite their conditions . Its 100% sure this wicked and tyrant doctrine is directly from Devil. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by Jerryolumide(m): 1:41pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
emusmith: TEACH US LORD GOD TO NOT JUST DESIRE HEAVEN BUT TO FIGHT AGAINST HELL!!! At the end of it all, love matters most |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by scotz101(m): 1:51pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Emmalot121: you are Misguided mr...hell is real and eternal and after the Great white throne judgement, hell and death along with hell's content will be emptied in the Lake of Fire which is the second Death...and yes! Souls burn eternally and continually with out bring destroyed in hell |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by ababale(m): 1:58pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
kennygee: However that kind of repentance is usually short-lived... |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by prettyJoy22(f): 2:05pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
Finland:I tell you,the thing tire me sef. Let's just keep trying to do what we know is right and ask for mercy any time we fall short. |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by NnaNna4(m): 2:09pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
minwafor: minwafor: minwafor: I HAVE READ THE POSTS ONE AFTER ANOTHER AND ONLY THIS POST TAKES 100% SCORE. 1 Like |
Re: The Messages Of Grace And Hellfire: Which Has Had More Impact In Recent Times? by NnaNna4(m): 2:23pm On Apr 12, 2015 |
minwafor: HAVING READ POSTS ONE AFTER ANOTHER, THIS IS THE 100% CORRECT RESPONSE Hell was created for the evil one and his alluring devices like disobedience, premarital sex ,presumption and those who also join him but if you decide to repent (because all have sinned) and join Christianity u will receive grace (or power) to stay out of sex, say the truth, avoid someone's wife etc. so 1 Like |
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