both cut from the same cloth.

but if you are relying on one of them to pull a rabbit off the hat in a champions league tie/big game who will deliver?

mature replies please.

Berbatov by astronomical miles. . . . .

There's no player like this Bulgarian. . . . .His first touch is the best in the business.
Not even Ronaldinho, Messi, Zidane or Fat Ronaldo have the kinda close control i have seen in Berba.
Cheese. . . . . .Berba is class. The only snag is his languid vibe.

berbatov for sure

homosapien:

berbatov for sure

ibrahimovic is a magician. i think he has more than berbatov and he is faster too.

mykali:

is this an arguement? jesus christ. . . maybe if ibra was playing in the prem u guys wouldnt be spewing all the bullshyt about berbasulk.
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Berbatov is more technical, has the best first touch on planet Earth and he reads the game quite well.

Just to look at their stats over the last five years in all competitions:

84 goals for Ibrahimovic in 170 games.

114 goals for Berbatov in 197 games.

this thread should be moved to the Joke section. . .

instead of comparing Berba with Diouf of Sunderland. . .you are comparing him with Ibrahimovic. . .

where is Criz. . .oh no,she is a Manure fan, i will call on Muki to lock this thread

allboyz:

this thread should be moved to the Joke section. . .

instead of comparing Berba with Diouf of Sunderland. . .you are comparing him with Ibrahimovic. . .

Berbatov is clearly the better player, his goal record suggests this.

I think Ibra might have more talent and physical attributes, but berbatov has a better footballing brain, capable of moments of genius.
Any football buff will go with berbatov as the better player because he utilities his talent better, and is a better goal scorer.
Take a look at his international goal statistics and his 20+ goals per season in the Premiership.

Its a tough call really i am not exactly a big fan of either of them but i would go with Zlatan because he can be pure genius when he is in the mood to play some footie.I can never forget his goal against Italy in Euro 2004 and the one he scored against Roma at the Stadio Olimpico.He is better in my opinion

Ibra is usually a wastepipe in games
but when the dude decides to play, hes miles ahead of Berba.

Ill go for Berba cos Ibra will only put up a good show in 1 outta 10 games

Ibra is just strong on ball and can dribble past 3 - 4 players, berba wont do just that but will only slot a through ball btw them, i love his passes but i prefer ibramovich

Passing game - Berba
Link up = Berba
Technicality = Berba

Power = Ibracadabra
Gait = Ibra
Speed = Ibra

Over all, on a good day, i go with Ibra but on a bad, you do be asking how he became a pro.
But as a Manc, Berba any day anytime.

Come Switch47 e b like say you  be real an enemy to MAN U just take ur goooooooooooooooood time, Berbatov is more Technical and more a playmaker than Ibra. his assist in United has pulled united to the top of the EPL table and he's a good scorer too.

i d ask wetin una own player don do for this league switch?

every sports forum u just dey go round the spread bad cultural habit, u no no say e no fit ur calibre of personality? u just dey mess-up, make e no bisle 4 ur body oooooooo!

emperoh ur kool with that stat. u gave thanx

homosapien:

berbatov for sure

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This is pure blasphemy, why on earth will you compare a mediocre striker like berbatov to the legendary Ibra?

haba now, it's like saying obagol is better than David villa.

there's no comparison, it's like some guys watch football with a bra over their faces, cos dat's the only way you can get to see berba been better than Ibra.

From observing this thread, i noticed 2 types of people,

1.You have your level headed, logical and rational folks, who agrees that Ibra is blessed with talent and is capable of doing damage but also recognizes that Berbov is less talented but a highly effective and a more consistent player.

2. Then you have your emotional and sensitive junkies who just spew gibberish without being thoughtful i.e "This is pure blasphemy, why on earth will you compare a mediocre striker like berbatov to the legendary Ibra?"


Regardless of whether Ibra can pull a rabbit out of a hat or not , bottomline is Berbov is a much more effective player on the pitch and the numbers dont lie, check the records.

thanx gekko,ur post was very objective.many guys let their emotions get the better of them and rather than be objective in an argument they spout abuse.there is no basis for calling ibrahimovic a legend(either for inter or for sweden).his 20 goals in 56 matches place him outside the alltime top 10 scorers for Sweden.the real legends for Sweden are greats like GUNNAR GREN,GUNNAR NORDHAL(AC MILAN TOPSCORER WITH 210 GOALS),TOMAS RAVELLI and of course HENRIK LARSSEN.Inter Milan's legends are greats like GUISEPPE MEAZZA,LUIS SUAREZ,GIACINTO FACCHETTI,WALTER ZENGA and JAVIER ZANETTI.meanwhile BERBATOV with 41 goals in 64 appearances is the 2nd alltime scorer for bulgaria (making him a true Bulgarian legend).Zlatan is inconsistent though blessed with power,pace(for a big man) and excellent technique.Berba is also blessed with excellent technique but has less power and pace but more vision.one should also consider the fact that berba has shown consistent improvement over the last 5 seasons(check both players records),and he is more prolific overall.it is a close one cos they are both similar in many respects but i'll give it to BERBATOV

We shouldn't overflog this issue.

Berbatov is the better player if you are looking for someone to deliver when the going gets tough.
He is more technical than Ibrahimovic and his vision and first touch is second to none in Europe.

Berbatov? A player who left the Bundesliga without making any impact suddenly became a cult hero in England.

Zlatan should also rise to the occassion.

Gimme Zlatan over Berbatov. Who wants a player who covers 2km in 90 minutes of football.

Berbasulk is the laziest player on this planet

dayokanu:

Berbatov? A player who left the Bundesliga without making any impact suddenly became a cult hero in England.

Classic hogwash again from a medicore footie analyst.
What impact has Ballack made in the Premiership(Ok, he was wasted before coming to the English footie).
I remember Diego Forlan winning the Pichichi in Spain and he was a bench warmer at Man Utd. Guiseppe Rossi is a cult hero same as Ruud.
Does that necessarily make em poor because they couldn't cut in their previous clubs?? Someone needs artificial intelligence.

Zlatan should also rise to the occassion.

A tasteless statement. . . . .What does this mean??

Gimme Zlatan over Berbatov. Who wants a player who covers 2km in 90 minutes of football.

His 2km in 90 minutes got him 40+ goals in 64 international games and hasn't failed yet to score 23+ goals per season in the last 4 seasons.

Berbasulk is the laziest player on this planet

He has made more impact in this league than any other Bundesliga player coming to the EPL.

He has made more impact in this league than any other Bundesliga player coming to the EPL

One example. Roque Santa cruz has 23 goals in his first season in the EPL in 43 games

Berbatov has 23 goals in more games.

They are of the same age and height. They are both strikers too

You want another?

dayokanu:

One example. Roque Santa cruz has 23 goals in his first season in the EPL in 43 games

Berbatov has 23 goals in more games.

They are of the same age and height. They are both strikers too

You want another?

Berbatov has done it TWICE in a row(He was able to beat the 2nd season syndrome that is currently plaguing Nando @ Liverpool).
Name one Bundesliga player coming to the Premiership that scored 46 goals in his first 2 seasons.
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Dayo-goofu,

Berbatov is the 3rd most creative player in the EPL as far as goals/assists are concerned.
Only Rooney and Ronaldo are above him in the Premiership since he arrived in 2006.
Now letz take a look at Berbatov/Ibrahimovic (goals + assists)statistics.

2006/2007 - Berbatov = 23 + 15 = 48
2006/2007 - Ibrahimovic = 15 + 5 = 20

2007/2008 - Berbatov = 23 + 12 = 35
2007/2008 - Ibrahimovic = 22 + 9 = 31

International goals.

Berbatov------ 41 goals in 64 appearances
Ibrahimovic----20 goals in 56 appearances.

Now that u have been sonned again. . . . .Anything more to say??

2006/2007 - Berbatov = 23 + 15 = 48
2006/2007 - Ibrahimovic = 15 + 5 = 20

2007/2008 - Berbatov = 23 + 12 = 35
2007/2008 - Ibrahimovic = 22 + 9 = 31

International goals.

Berbatov------ 41 goals in 64 appearances
Ibrahimovic----20 goals in 56 appearances.

Your stats are so useless to the discerning mind. It might mean something to fools though

2006/2007 season
Berbatov:23 goals in 43 appearances GOAL per game 0.47
Ibracadabra: 15 goals in 36 appearances GOAL per game 0.42

2007/2008 season
Berbatov: 23 goals in 52 appearances GOAL per game 0.44
Ibrahimovic: 22 goals in 34 appearances GOAL per game 0.65


Average goal per game for the 2 seasons in consideration
Berbatov : 0.46 goals per game
IBRAHIMOVIC: 0.53 goals per game!!!!!!!!!

Warning: DONT TRY TO ENGAGE DAYOKANU IN THOSE INFANTILE AND DEMENTED ANALYSIS OF YOURS!!!!

In the national team, Zlatan plays as a support striker to Henrik Larrson, while Berbatov is mainly a top striker

dayokanu:

Your stats are so useless to the discerning mind. It might mean something to fools though

U are a dolt!!!
The stats have shown Berbatov is the better player with goals and high number of assists.

2006/2007 season
Berbatov:23 goals in 43 appearances GOAL per game 0.47
Ibracadabra: 15 goals in 36 appearances GOAL per game 0.42


2007/2008 season
Berbatov: 23 goals in 52 appearances GOAL per game 0.44
Ibrahimovic: 22 goals in 34 appearances GOAL per game 0.65


Average goal per game for the 2 seasons in consideration
Berbatov : 0.46 goals per game
IBRAHIMOVIC: 0.53 goals per game!!!!!!!!!

Why stop at 2 seasons?? Why not calculate the goal ratio for the last 5 seasons??
Only a resident idiot like you will rate Ibrahimovic( a player who has only scored more than 20 goals per season ONCE in the last 7 years)
BERBATOV has not failed yet to bang 23+ goals in the past 4 seasons.

CLUB GOALS IN THE LAST 4 SEASONS.

Berbatov: 96 goals in 182 appearances.(0.53 goals per game)
Ibrahimovic: 63 goals in 150 appearances.(0.42 goals per game)

I don't want to put the stats of all competitions cos that would leave ur ugly face in dog's poop.
Jeeez, i still REPEAT only a complete slowpoke like you will compare a wimp like Ibrahimovic to Berbagoal

Warning: DONT TRY TO ENGAGE DAYOKANU IN THOSE INFANTILE AND DEMENTED ANALYSIS OF YOURS!!!!
In the national team, Zlatan plays as a support striker to Henrik Larrson, while Berbatov is mainly a top striker

Trying to engage you in a rational discourse is highly impossible cos you are brain damaged.
Who gives a rat's ass if Zlatan plays as a support striker or not?? Do you put this into consideration when you compare Rooney to Klose??
Sweden plays 4-4-2 and Zlatan n Larsson were strike partners. No one played ahead of the other. That is no excuse, hombre.

U have no nous and common sense evades you in leaps n bounds.
Berbatov is 7 goals away from breaking his country's record as the all-time highest goal scorer and currently 2nd on that list.
Ibrahimovic is not even in the top ten goalscorers in Sweden and u have the gall to open ur diseased mouth to argue.

Go and have urself a self-service cos u have just been sonned again. U know nothing about football.

Why stop at 2 seasons?? Why not calculate the goal ratio for the last 5 seasons??
Only a resident idiot like you will rate Ibrahimovic( a player who has only scored more than 20 goals per season ONCE in the last 7 years)
BERBATOV has not failed yet to bang 23+ goals in the past 4 seasons

Your initial post mentioned only those 2 seasons.
Zlatan atimes play as a support striker, thats what an idiot like you fail to see.
Behind Adriano, Cruz, Trezeguet, Mitea, and Zalayeta

Personal awards Zlatan Ibrahimovich
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 2005, 2008
Serie A Footballer of the Year: 2008
Serie A Goal of the Year: 2008
Guldbollen: 2005, 2007, 2008 (Swedish footballer of the year)
UEFA Team of the Year: 2007

Personal awards Dimitar Berbatov
Bulgarian Footballer of the Year: 2002, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008
FA Premier League Player of the Month: April 2007
PFA Team of the Year: 2006–07

Compare their personal awards and get back

dayokanu:

Your initial post mentioned only those 2 seasons.
Zlatan atimes play as a support striker, thats what an idiot like you fail to see.
Behind Adriano, Cruz, Trezeguet, Mitea, and Zalayeta

U are a global idiot.
Zlatan play as a support striker and Berbatov who plays ahead still generates more assists than him??
Are u being PAID to constitute a nuisance here or is it genetic??

Personal awards Zlatan Ibrahimovich
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 2005, 2008
Serie A Footballer of the Year: 2008
Serie A Goal of the Year: 2008
Guldbollen: 2005, 2007, 2008 (Swedish footballer of the year)
UEFA Team of the Year: 2007

   Personal awards Dimitar Berbatov
Bulgarian Footballer of the Year: 2002, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008
FA Premier League Player of the Month: April 2007
PFA Team of the Year: 2006–07

Compare their personal awards and get back

We are talking who is more effective on the pitch and this orangutang is talking personal awards??
Berbatov has never played for a league champion until he moved to Man Utd so his chances of accumulating personal awards is slimmer than Zlatan who is playing for Inter( a club that has won their league title for the past 3 seasons).

Instead of u to admit you have been schooled. . . . .U keep squirming in your world of idiocy.
What has individual awards gotta do with creativity in front of goal?? Are u a spaz??
I suggest you burn your Bayern shirt/season ticket to get yourself a laser eye surgery at visionexpress.

What effectiveness are you talking about here.

berbasulk became something when he transferred to the lax premiership.

This was a player whose coach and FA chairman complained bitterly about for strolling 2000meters in 90 minutes. Effective indeed

Which schooling are u talking about here? You must be deprived as a youth. If you dont know that no one pays berbasulk an mind in football world.

He is the laziest player you can ever think of. This season alone, Zlatan has 13 league goals while berba 6 in the same number of games.

I think Ibrahimovich should come play in the premiership before we can really assess him. . . . . but one thing is for sure, Berba will cut it wella in the serie A - they practically play at walking pace in most of their matches & it would suit him just fine!

Ruudie,

Ibrahimovic is pacier and stronger than Berbatov and these are the 2 things key to EPL success as a striker.

WHy dont you let Berbatov take his strolling to Spain and Italy before you judge him?

He was the worst player on the field when Bulgaria played Italy that the coach and FA chair had to complain.

That is what u get from a lazy striker.

dayokanu:

What effectiveness are you talking about here.

Creativity in terms of goals scored and number of assists he generates.

berbasulk became something when he transferred to the lax premiership.
This was a player whose coach and FA chairman complained bitterly about for strolling 2000meters in 90 minutes. Effective indeed

It seems a gerbil crawled up your rectum.
Before he left Bundesliga, he scored 23+ games in his last 2 seasons there. Something Zlatan has only managed once in 7 seasons.
Running around like a headless chicken is a red herring. . . . .U don't have to bust a gut to be an effective striker.
2000 metres in 90 mins?? Take a look hard at yourself and call yourself a fool. . . .

Which schooling are u talking about here? You must be deprived as a youth. If you dont know that no one pays berbasulk an mind in football world.
He is the laziest player you can ever think of.  This season alone, Zlatan has 13 league goals while berba 6 in the same number of games.

Common sense evades you. . . . . . .How convenient is it for you to isolate the league as a point of reference??
Ok, Berbatov has 4 UCL goals in 3 appearances and Zlatan has only one goal in 6 appearances.
We all know UCL is a much more acceptable standard than the domestic league so put a cock in it.

How come the coach and the FA chairman of Bulgaria are complaining about their star striker