In the Garden of Eden, the serpent “beguiled” Eve into eating a piece of fruit. She ate it and then gave it to her husband, which caused them to realize they were naked. What type of a serpent can talk, and what does a piece of fruit have to do with being naked?


Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Genesis 3:6-7

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Genesis 3:14-15

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This is the first sin recorded in the Bible. The most cunning of all the beasts, the serpent, “beguiled” Eve into eating a piece of forbidden fruit. She ate it and then gave it to her husband, which caused them to realize that they were naked.

The obvious questions are: How can a snake talk? What does an apple have to do with being naked? And, where does the seed of the serpent fit into all this?

The Bible says the serpent was the most “subtil” of all the beasts. He was so like a human, that he could walk, talk, and even have an intelligent conversation. After he beguiled Adam’s wife, God cursed him to be a snake, but not before the damage was done and the seed was planted.

The Bible says in Genesis 3:15 that the serpent had a seed, and God put enmity between the two seeds. Obviously, the serpent’s seed mingled with Eve’s natural seed before the separation. How could all that be a result of eating an apple? Then, a few verses later, “Adam called his wife’s name; Eve because she was the mother of all living.” Note that it does not say Adam was the father of all living.

There are different “fruits” in the Bible. Of course, there is the literal fruit, like an apple, that grows and is consumed for food. There is also the fruit that refers to our works, whether it is natural works such as farming and business, or spiritual works such as performing miracles and preaching the Gospel. Then, there is the fruit of the womb, which refers to conception and childbirth.


Would eating a literal fruit give Adam and Eve the understanding that they were naked? Or, would it take a physical relationship between a man and a woman for them to understand why they should cover certain parts of their bodies?

What really happened that day in the Garden to cause all humanity to fall?

As the Seed of the woman was literally God reproducing Himself in human flesh, so the seed of the serpent is the literal way that Satan found he was able to open the door to himself into the human race. It was impossible for Satan (for he is only a CREATED spirit-being) to reproduce himself in the manner which God reproduced Himself, so the Genesis account tells how he produced his seed and introduced or injected himself into the human race. Also recall that Satan is called the “serpent.” It is his seed or injection into the human race we are speaking of.

Before Adam ever had carnal knowledge of Eve, the serpent had that knowledge ahead of him. And that one born of it was Cain. Cain was of (born of, begotten of) that “Wicked One,”

I John 3:12

…The truth of the matter is that Eve had in her womb TWO sons (twins) from SEPARATE impregnations. She was carrying twins, with Cain’s conception sometime previous to that of Abel’s.

References
Genesis 3:6-7
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked ; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

[How would they know they were naked from eating a piece of fruit?]

Genesis 3:13-15
And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me , and I did eat.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman , and between thy seed and her seed ; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

[The serpent had a seed. Obviously, this is not referring to a snake.]

Genesis 3:20
And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living .

[Why is Adam not called the father of all living?]

Genesis 4:1-2
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD .

And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

[All life comes from God, whether conceived legitimately or illegitimately. Satan cannot create life.]

Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

[Where is the first-born Cain in the lineage of Adam?]

I John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one , and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

[God created Adam in His own image. Where did the wickedness of Cain come from, and where did the righteousness of Abel come from? Their attributes were inherited from their fathers.]

Jude 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam , prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

[Nowhere in the Bible is Cain in the lineage of Adam.]

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Yea yea yea just like Snow White rose from the death after the kiss from the Prince. Your stories are good for Hollywood movies. I bet kids must enjoy listening to you.

Sex took place, d serpent had intercourse with Eve....Lobatan.

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Genesis 4:1-2
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD .
And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
[All life comes from God, whether conceived legitimately or illegitimately. Satan cannot create life.]

[God created Adam in His own image. Where did the wickedness of Cain come from, and where did the righteousness of Abel come from? Their attributes were inherited from their fathers.]

The highlighted shows who was responsible for Cain's conception.

Jude 1:14
And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam , prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
[Nowhere in the Bible is Cain in the lineage of Adam.]
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The same applies to Abel as regards the highlighted! Seth's ancestral position in Israel made him relevant as most genealogies(from Jews' perspective) would naturally focus on that.

There are different “fruits” in the Bible. Of course, there is the literal fruit, like an apple, that grows and is consumed for food. There is also the fruit that refers to our works, whether it is natural works such as farming and business, or spiritual works such as performing miracles and preaching the Gospel. Then, there is the fruit of the womb, which refers to conception and childbirth.

What you are implying here contradicts the passage you are referring to.

[quote author=Scholar8200 post=34417127]The highlighted shows who was responsible for Cain's conception.

All life comes from God.

Eve [b]shared [/b]the "fruit" with Adam after she had been beguiled by the serpent.

It happens even today. Women giving birth to children for two different fathers. It all depends on the time of conception. it has been proven that if 'woman' is ovulating, and she has the tendency to take-in from different men so far the timing is not far apart and also in that ovulating stage.

I'll show an article to prove that to you.

Also would you mind checking the lineage of Cain in the bible.
It pretty does not recognize Adam as his father.
Instead, Seth is considered to be the only descendant of Adam, being that Abel had been slain by Cain.

serpent's punishment was just mere one. what have snails done too? because i believed their own organ for movement is worst

[quote author=XXXXXXXXXXX post=34417972][/quote] Genesis 3:2-4
2 And the woman said to the serpent, We may eat the fruit from the trees of the garden,
3 Except the fruit from the tree which is in the middle of the garden. God has said, You shall not eat of it, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.
4 But the serpent said to the woman, You shall not surely die,

Your analysis seems to ignore the fact that they were in a garden with many other trees. The act of eating the fruit in this context is literal.

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What really happened that day in the Garden to cause all humanity to fall?

As the Seed of the woman was literally God reproducing Himself in human flesh, so the seed of the serpent is the literal way that Satan found he was able to open the door to himself into the human race. It was impossible for Satan (for he is only a CREATED spirit-being) to reproduce himself in the manner which God reproduced Himself, so the Genesis account tells how he produced his seed and introduced or injected himself into the human race. Also recall that Satan is called the “serpent.” It is his seed or injection into the human race we are speaking of.

Before Adam ever had carnal knowledge of Eve, the serpent had that knowledge ahead of him. And that one born of it was Cain. Cain was of (born of, begotten of) that “Wicked One,”

I John 3:12

…The truth of the matter is that Eve had in her womb TWO sons (twins) from SEPARATE impregnations. She was carrying twins, with Cain’s conception sometime previous to that of Abel’s.

at the bolded, yo can never read the bible with the wors there, you have to find a meaning to suite your understanding. the same bible recorded that cain and abel were the two sons of adam and eve

[quote author=XXXXXXXXXXX post=34417972][/quote] Then explain the highlighted spoken before the woman was created
Genesis 2: 16,17
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and blessing and calamity you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
18 Now the Lord God said, It is not good (sufficient, satisfactory) that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.

Hhhmm.

So when Eve said " I have begotten a man for the Lord, I guess she was telling us that she had been impregnated by god himself as the biological father Of Seth.

plaetton:
Hhhmm.

So when Eve said " I have begotten a man for the Lord, I guess she was telling us that she had been impregnated by god himself as the biological father Of Seth.

Did this event happen before or after god cast Satan out of heaven ie satan's rebellion?

hahn:


Did this event happen before or after god cast Satan out of heaven ie satan's rebellion?

Good question.

plaetton:


Good question.

Op?

Did this event happen before or after satan's rebellion?

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This is the first sin recorded in the Bible. The most cunning of all the beasts, the serpent, “beguiled” Eve into eating a piece of forbidden fruit. She ate it and then gave it to her husband, which caused them to realize that they were naked.

The obvious questions are: How can a snake talk? What does an apple have to do with being naked? And, where does the seed of the serpent fit into all this?

The Bible says the serpent was the most “subtil” of all the beasts. He was so like a human, that he could walk, talk, and even have an intelligent conversation. After he beguiled Adam’s wife, God cursed him to be a snake, but not before the damage was done and the seed was planted.

The Bible says in Genesis 3:15 that the serpent had a seed, and God put enmity between the two seeds. Obviously, the serpent’s seed mingled with Eve’s natural seed before the separation. How could all that be a result of eating an apple? Then, a few verses later, “Adam called his wife’s name; Eve because she was the mother of all living.” Note that it does not say Adam was the father of all living.

There are different “fruits” in the Bible. Of course, there is the literal fruit, like an apple, that grows and is consumed for food. There is also the fruit that refers to our works, whether it is natural works such as farming and business, or spiritual works such as performing miracles and preaching the Gospel. Then, there is the fruit of the womb, which refers to conception and childbirth.


Would eating a literal fruit give Adam and Eve the understanding that they were naked? Or, would it take a physical relationship between a man and a woman for them to understand why they should cover certain parts of their bodies?

plaetton:
Hhhmm.

So when Eve said " I have begotten a man for the Lord, I guess she was telling us that she had been impregnated by god himself as the biological father Of Seth.

Here is one of the inherent dangers in quotations from residual memory,
I dont find the highlighted in the Bible!

Perhaps you meant Genesis 4:1
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.(KJV)
The passage leaves none in doubt as to who was responsible- Adam. (Children are the heritage of the Lord hence it's scripturally prosper for Eve to acknowledge the baby as a gift from God)


Eve never said that after the birth of Seth! The conception of Seth is clearly given
Genesis 2:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.(KJV)

ojimbo:
at the bolded, yo can never read the bible with the wors there, you have to find a meaning to suite your understanding. the same bible recorded that cain and abel were the two sons of adam and eve

Sorry, please could you show me in the lineage of Adam, whee Cain fits?
I would love to know.
Thank you.

OR

You could read 1 John 3:12 which says:

"Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous."

Scholar8200:
Here is one of the inherent dangers in quotations from residual memory,
I dont find the highlighted in the Bible!

Perhaps you meant Genesis 4:1
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.(KJV)
The passage leaves none in doubt as to who was responsible- Adam. (Children are the heritage of the Lord hence it's scripturally prosper for Eve to acknowledge the baby as a gift from God)


Eve never said that after the birth of Seth! The conception of Seth is clearly given
Genesis 2:25
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.(KJV)

All life comes from God. She testifies to that. Even the filthiest of the filthy, as we may say, come from God. Illegitimate children come from God, because He is the Giver and Author of Life.

As I posted that article you could see that the woman involved had conceived for her husband and still committed adultery with a black man within that same day , thus having two seeds in her womb at that time. Hence, she gave birth to a blonde boy and a dark skin boy.

plaetton:
Hhhmm.

So when Eve said " I have begotten a man for the Lord, I guess she was telling us that she had been impregnated by god himself as the biological father Of Seth.

Let me assume you are speaking from Genesis 4:25 which says:

"And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew."

Clearly, Seth starts the lineage of Adam. Why? Because Cain slew Abel.
You could see the whole lineage of Adam in Genesis Chapter 5. In not one place is the name of Cain mentioned. From Adam to Seth.

Also in the next verse, 4:26:

And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.

I would be wondering why didn't men call on the name of the Lord in Cain's lineage??

hahn:


Did this event happen before or after god cast Satan out of heaven ie satan's rebellion?

Which event to be exact?
Satan was cast out of heaven down to earth because of his ambitions (to be bigger than God).-Just before Genesis 3

The devil entered into the serpent as it was the closest creature to man.

N/B This is the missing link that scientists are looking for..

He then used the serpent to bring about the fall of the human race.

Thank you.

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All life comes from God. She testifies to that. Even the filthiest of the filthy, as we may say, come from God. Illegitimate children come from God, because He is the Giver and Author of Life.

As I posted that article you could see that the woman involved had conceived for her husband and still committed adultery with a black man within that same day , thus having two seeds in her womb at that time. Hence, she gave birth to a blonde boy and a dark skin boy.

Then explain the highlighted spoken before the woman was created
Genesis 2: 16,17
16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and blessing and calamity you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.
18 Now the Lord God said, It is not good (sufficient, satisfactory) that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper (suitable, adapted, complementary) for him.

This clearly shows that,like other trees, there stood a tree with its own fruits which was forbidden for Adam(ever before Eve was formed) to eat from.

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Which event to be exact?
Satan was cast out of heaven down to earth because of his ambitions (to be bigger than God).-Just before Genesis 3

The devil entered into the serpent as it was the closest creature to man.

N/B This is the missing link that scientists are looking for..

He then used the serpent to bring about the fall of the human race.

Thank you.

I do believe that there is another part of the bible that states that after the angels were cast down they were like giants and they slept with humans. This is even the basic ground for greek mythology. Please forgive my inability to quote the exact passage. If it doesn't exist then I'm certainly wrong

However, if that's the case then it means that there were already lots of humans existing at the time whereas the story of the garden of eden dates at around the time when only Adam and Eve existed thus its hard to say that lucifer was already cast down because as narrated in the other story there were already lots of humans existing.

hahn:


I do believe that there is another part of the bible that states that after the angels were cast down they were like giants and they slept with humans. This is even the basic ground for greek mythology. Please forgive my inability to quote the exact passage. If it doesn't exist then I'm certainly wrong

However, if that's the case then it means that there were already lots of humans existing at the time whereas the story of the garden of eden dates at around the time when only Adam and Eve existed thus its hard to say that lucifer was already cast down because as narrated in the other story there were already lots of humans existing.

He is a spirit.. He entered into the serpent

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He is a spirit.. He entered into the serpent

Before or after he was cast down? Or are you trying to insinuate that this period was the beginning of his revolt?

hahn:


Before or after he was cast down? Or are you trying to insinuate that this period was the beginning of his revolt?

This was after he was cast down.
After he was cast down, he entered the serpent because it was the closest in nature to man.
He did this to cause the fall of the human race