PabloAfricanus:
@OP
I think the OP and the guys who support his write up have come to the point where a certain level of knowledge has dawned on them...coupled with the attendant inferiority complex(lol).
Yeah for you to wish sub saharan africa was colonized by ancient egypt...after experiencing colonization by the Europeans and the transatlantic slave trade...indicates among other things...
1)A not too subtle declaration of the "inferior" status of your ancestral land and heritage. Ponder on the implications of your statement b4 arguing this.
2) Your just realizing that africans probably were not and are still not ready for civilized government. Incase you want to argue this point...give me an example of a successful African country run by africans without input from the West.
3) While the rest of the world were busy innovating in sciences and technology...whilst the rest of the world had gone beyond reading and writing to establishing public libraries....while the rest of the world were busy opening up schools and institutes...africans were not even aware of what was going on in the rest of the world.
4) While the world was navigating the seas,oceans and charting the skies and stars...their ancestors were busy marrying more wives and sacrificing more innocent human beings on a daily basis to appease gods who went awol when the colonial masters came calling.
5) Maybe the british and french colonial masters should not have left. Maybe they should have stayed on like the boers in SA and inculcated some modernity into the backward african populace. Don't beat it...its the fact, south africa was not built by the zulus and xhosas...its a white thing.
But ofcourse you can prove me wrong.
Admit it...you silently cringe at the realization that the rest of the world had left sub saharan africa behind...millenia ago. I did too.
But the question is...what are u gonna do about it?
Sit around and muse over the glorious slavery in the mines and fields of ancient egypt ur ancestors would have been subjected to by the nubians and other rulers of ancient egypt?
Or imagine what pride you would have been able to flaunt at the whites when you display the cultural dividends of ancient egyptian colonization and slavery of your ancestors by the ancient egyptians? Maybe a pyramid here or two in Ashanti land or Hausa land...maybe some papyrus scrolls buried in some tombs across west africa...to show africans could actually read and write before the islamists and christian loving invaders came?
Get over your day dream bro!
Fold up ur sleeves, engage ur imagination and do something significant in ur lifetime!
It was men of flesh and blood that built those civilizations you secretly envy.
We africans simply lack imagination, self consciousness and discipline.
Nothing whatsoever keeps us from building great and glorious civilizations but our own minds and beliefs.
Maybe angry awakened guys like you can do something about it.

Duru1:



The jackass, sultan of sokoto,usman danfodio, attempted southeastern move but was schooled in the art of warfare.

ROSSIKE:
Not sure about the highlighted.The Egyptians were highly knowledgable,and expended resources on knowledge acquisition.Don't forget they called all of Africa south of Egypt 'Ethiopia' at the time,and they traded with Kush,with its major sub saharan cities like Meroe and Napata.They also traded with other places southwards including the famous but mysterious 'Land of Yam' that was known to be very far south of Egypt.

jamaicanoshu:
@PABLOAFRICANUS: You jumped over the SALIENT points raised by the previous posters as to why Africa would have been a better place today "if the Ancient Egyptians had colonized all of Africa !" Rather than refute their arguments you attacked claiming we suffer from inferior complexes. You then went off and built a house of straw arguments leading to a conclusion about our own minds and beliefs

jamaicanoshu:
@PABLOAFRICANUS: You jumped over the SALIENT points raised by the previous posters as to why Africa would have been a better place today "if the Ancient Egyptians had colonized all of Africa !" Rather than refute their arguments you attacked claiming we suffer from inferior complexes. You then went off and built a house of straw arguments leading to a conclusion about our own minds and beliefs .

jamaicanoshu:

(1) ALL of these other races got their civilization from Ancient Egypt . (2) Why didn't these other races build civilization before contact with EGYPT.

jamaicanoshu:

(3) Twice we saved Europe : first the Greeks and then in Spain. We built seventeen universities in Europe after which they had their RENAISSANCE. We will have ours!

jamaicanoshu:

(4) Electricity and light bulbs are on tomb walls in EGYPT (Youtube it).

jamaicanoshu:

(5) The first ships, navigational aides and first people to sail around the world was ANCIENT EGYPTIANS.

jamaicanoshu:

(6) Civilization comes after the culture that creates it . Thus Egypt gave a massive jump to the rest of the world due to geography.

jamaicanoshu:

(7) The temple at Alexandria had all the hand written books collected there. Ptolemy closed all the other temples and deposited all books in one single temple because, we would not build him a white version of Osiris. After copying these scrolls they burn't the temple to the ground leaving AFRICA without the cultural base to rebuild. The secret grand lodge of Masons that built Europe and America ORIGINATED IN Ancient Egypt. (Take a look at the U.S dollar) We will rebuild this esoteric knowledge base across AFRICA.

jamaicanoshu:

All these other cultures that are ahead of us why are they claiming to be Ancient Egyptian . Why are they not content with their obvious super people status ? Are they afraid that if we discover our super past we will overtake them ?

jamaicanoshu:

If only 10% of Black AFRICA WOULD SUFFER WITH OUR INFERIORITY COMPLEX AFRICA WOULD RISE IN NO TIME! We former Zombies now free must help other African Zombies to free themselves!

jamaicanoshu:
If Kemet,Nubia , had colonized the rest of Africa our lives today would have been so much better today . Instead of Africa, Ansar the BLACK WAR GOD went and spread Civilization to the rest of the world. He brought writing to India, China, the Far East and the America's. ALL WRITING came out Kemet/Nubia. Why is it that Chinese writing ,Mayan writing, and Kemetic writing(HEIROGLYPHICS) all look so similar. Their clothing and hats were similar. They all had pyramids. They all had divine kings as government with a strong priestly cast. If only he had colonized the rest of Africa first the past 3000 years could have been so different for Africa. Today African's are going on pilgrimages to Rome, Mecca and Israel . They won't go to Egypt to see where those religious ideas were stolen from! The White man ,the Arab and the Jew are busy claiming Ancient Egypt ! Every four months out of Hollywood comes a film trying to make Egypt White. Whilst Africans are busy BLEACHING OUT THEIR MINDS AND BODIES! If we could build those great pyramids; we can surely build our own roads today!

jamaicanoshu:
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jamaicanoshu:
If Kemet,Nubia , had colonized the rest of Africa our lives today would have been so much better today . Instead of Africa, Ansar the BLACK WAR GOD went and spread Civilization to the rest of the world. He brought writing to India, China, the Far East and the America's. ALL WRITING came out Kemet/Nubia. Why is it that Chinese writing ,Mayan writing, and Kemetic writing(HEIROGLYPHICS) all look so similar. Their clothing and hats were similar. They all had pyramids. They all had divine kings as government with a strong priestly cast. If only he had colonized the rest of Africa first the past 3000 years could have been so different for Africa. Today African's are going on pilgrimages to Rome, Mecca and Israel . They won't go to Egypt to see where those religious ideas were stolen from! The White man ,the Arab and the Jew are busy claiming Ancient Egypt ! Every four months out of Hollywood comes a film trying to make Egypt White. Whilst Africans are busy BLEACHING OUT THEIR MINDS AND BODIES! If we could build those great pyramids; we can surely build our own roads today!

LOIUSXIV:
remember that for a long time,. today's CAUCASIAN 'SUper' race was once called barbarians.the Europeans learnt algebra from the arabs and superseded the Arabs themselves.the JAPAN SUCCESS STORY is well known.the 'Black problem' or African problem is self-created.or maybe we should ask God why the black race finds it frustrating to crack the Technology curse and measure up to the Asians&WHITES.Ask Malaysia-colonisation is not an excuse for backwardness.

EVarn:
The liberation of the Hebrews{later known as jews} from slavery has little impact on the advent of civilization to africa.The Hebrews broke loose and sank an entire horde of the egyptian army in the Red sea,leaving the flank open for the assyrians to exploit,after plaguing egypt with faminine and pestilence,contaminating the nile and setting egypt to civil unrest.
We all know the story,but what has that got to do with egypt conquering africa?..lol,how would we remain 'slaves' of egypt in the 21th century,hmm?
I believe that africa would have been a better place today if egypt had conquered the continent.

PhysicsQED:


If Egypt and Nubia had colonized the rest of Africa, we would be inundated daily with even more claims that black Africans were unable to create civilizations without help from so-called "Hamitic" colonizers spreading it to us. There would also be less cultural diversity, or at least each culture would be so heavily Egyptianized and Nubianized that they would be less unique. But on the positive side, there would have been far more literature and writing in general than there was, and that would have had other positive effects.

jamaicanoshu:
If Kemet,Nubia , had colonized the rest of Africa our lives today would have been so much better today . Instead of Africa, Ansar the BLACK WAR GOD went and spread Civilization to the rest of the world. He brought writing to India, China, the Far East and the America's. ALL WRITING came out Kemet/Nubia. Why is it that Chinese writing ,Mayan writing, and Kemetic writing(HEIROGLYPHICS) all look so similar. Their clothing and hats were similar. They all had pyramids. They all had divine kings as government with a strong priestly cast. If only he had colonized the rest of Africa first the past 3000 years could have been so different for Africa. Today African's are going on pilgrimages to Rome, Mecca and Israel . They won't go to Egypt to see where those religious ideas were stolen from! The White man ,the Arab and the Jew are busy claiming Ancient Egypt ! Every four months out of Hollywood comes a film trying to make Egypt White. Whilst Africans are busy BLEACHING OUT THEIR MINDS AND BODIES! If we could build those great pyramids; we can surely build our own roads today!

Shymm3x:


Lol. I bet you don't know that most Arabs are an admixture between white and black, with a few white and black ones, no? Just as Sicilians and Berbers came mostly from the admixture of the moors and white folks.

If ancient Egypt had colonised the rest of Africa, and let's say they allowed the Hyskos and other Asiatic groups of different races in, like they did before expelling them - they probably would be the ones running the whole continent (or with their offspring like their Arab offspring is doing in Egypt). The Coloureds in South Africa are another classic example.

kingston277:

Was literature even democratized in Egypt? If not, they were honestly no more literate than SS Africans.

PhysicsQED:

No, literature was not democratized. It was for the elite. But that's not what I'm getting at, since writing was only for the elite in most places until the 18th and 19th centuries. I was saying that other parts of the continent would have had writing far earlier than they eventually did. And of course that would have affected the rate of technological advancement, and the spread of ideas from different parts of the continent to other parts. Basically, it would have accelerated technological development to have writing earlier. It would reduce cultural diversity, but it would boost scientific progress considerably.

kingston277:

Why is colonialism not the excuse? Explain why we went from building mega structures and clean, bustling cities like Sungbo eredo, Ife, Asante and Great Zimbabwe to rusting red roof huts? Why did we go from stable, selfless governments to corruption conveniently at the same time as colonialism? Why are our militaries now a joke when the Whites used to collaborate with our armies in their colonization attempts in southeast Asia? Why are people today dieing from diseases our ancestors just prior to colonialism had cures/treatments for? Why is there so much poverty today when wealth used to be more evenly distributed in the 19th century and prior? Maybe the real question the black race should ask is why we keep worshipping and trying to measure up to the ones who sent us backwards in the first place.