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Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by btoks: 6:58am On Jul 04, 2015 |
menesheh:I don't want to derail this thread but to address your assertion re bolded,it's only fundamentalists who teach a literal 6 24hour day creation.there has been no pronouncement from the CC on the exact process of creation.a day in God's term could be any period of time. Day was just a simple way to explain things to the simple minds. Catholics are free to believe what they see from their evidence until a definitive pronouncement is made by the CC. Also re your concluding concern, the CC only teaches what is true, never what is against it's tenet. The OP refers to one disillusioned priest. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by trapQ: 7:20am On Jul 04, 2015 |
now why would God condemn the perpetrators and not the crime?? does that make any sense to you Yooguyz: |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by trapQ: 7:23am On Jul 04, 2015 |
not everyone here is human. there are some spirits and demons among us too. what a stupid statement he made. its like pushing a murderer and saying its not bad to murder dolphinheart: |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by menesheh(m): 8:09am On Jul 04, 2015 |
btoks: There is nothing like derailing a thread in these context, we are here to share ideas and learn. it's only fundamentalists who teach a literal 6 24hour day creation.there has been no pronouncement from the CC on the exact process of creation. Are you kidding me, that means the content of the bible can be twisted anyway. a day in God's term could be any period of time.Why not convey the seven days creation info the same simple way he explain things to the simple mind as u said. Is god author of confusion? Also re your concluding concern, the CC only teaches what is true,How did you evaluate that what CC is teaching is true? |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Yooguyz: 8:29am On Jul 04, 2015 |
trapQ: Wrong analogy, homosexual desire is not a conscious effort like murder or crime. Its acting on the desire that is a sin, it ought to be subdued. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by trapQ: 9:16am On Jul 04, 2015 |
maybe you didn't get me correctly. I never said it was. a desire is what it is- a mere desire. until it is put into action it is only but a mere desire Yooguyz: 1 Like |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by italo: 9:51am On Jul 04, 2015 |
menesheh: If your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off, so that you don't 'twist the bible anyway.' menesheh: The same way you evaluated Catholic teaching to be true when you accepted the Bible they compiled and canonized. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by menesheh(m): 10:36am On Jul 04, 2015 |
italo: Didn't get where you dragging me to. What's your point? |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Tjayjosh(m): 12:09pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
NO TO HOMOSEXUALITY!!!
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Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by italo: 12:48pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
menesheh: If you applied a literal approach to all of the Bible, you wouldn't have a hand to type or eyes to see. You would have cut them off. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Syncan(m): 1:47pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
dolphinheart: johnydon22: Ehm... In case you don't know, the conversation between you two has caught my interest. dolphinheart it's your turn abeg. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by dolphinheart(m): 2:34pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Syncan: Good it has caught ur interest, ill reply both you and him here. My question was on what the bible say about homosexuals, expecially those who practice homosexuality. I realised later by his answer that someone who is not a Christian or who has a wrong view about christianity would/might answer the question in a wrong way which will thing is right due to his own understanding of the bible. I had a vague understanding of his reply but I do understand the direction of the reply, That's why I added "if that's only what the bible says" and "christians" in my next reply to him. If he does not know the mindset I used in asking the question , at least you can now realise that I'm asking about what the bible says to christians on how to handle homosexuality and how God views such acts. He replied by posting lev 20:13 which says "kill them " and rom 1:32 which says they deserve death. Now what is my view on w hat the bible say about homosexuality. This I will state in my next post, kindly hold on for a while ok |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Syncan(m): 2:47pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
dolphinheart: Thanks. CC. Johnydon22 |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by dolphinheart(m): 9:28pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
@ syncan and johnydon22 The view I follow on homosexuality . The Bible does not promote prejudice against people. However, its view of homosexual acts is clear. “Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin. --Leviticus 18:22. As part of the Mosaic Law, this prohibition was one of many moral laws given specifically to the nation of Israel. Even so, the commandment expresses God’s view of homosexual acts, whether by Jews or non-Jews, when it says: “It is a detestable thing.” Those Gods view change for christians later on ? These question is important as christians are not under the mosaic law and are not obligated to carry out its laws. Consider the following scripture: "24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.”— Romans 1:24 - 27. Here homosexual acts is described as "shameful". This is what the scriptures said those who practise the act , along with other shameful and malicious sins deserve " 32 They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them,too." Are we christians required to carry out this justice on behalf of God?. The answer is no . while the Bible does not condemn those who struggle with homosexual tendencies, it in no way condones giving in to those tendencies, whether they are the result of genetics or they stem from some other source. "21 I have discovered this principle of life—that when I want to do what is right, I inevitably do what is wrong. 22 I love God’s law with all my heart. 23 But there is another power e within me that is at war with my mind. This power makes me a slave to the sin that is still within me. 24 Oh, what a miserable person I am! Who will free me from this life that is dominated by sin and death? 25 Thank God! The answer is in Jesus Christ our Lord. So you see how it is: In my mind I really want to obey God’s law, but because of my sinful nature I am a slave to sin." -- Romans 7:21-25 "27 I discipline my body like an athlete, training it to do what it should. Otherwise, I fear that after preaching to others I myself might be disqualified -- 1 Corinthians 9:27 Instead, the Bible offers practical assistance and encouragement to help individuals to win the fight against homosexual practices. What Is God’s Will for People With Homosexual Desires? The Bible assures us that God’s will is that “all sorts of men should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.” ( 1 Timothy 2:4) Though the Bible disapproves of homosexual acts, it does not encourage hatred of homosexuals. God’s view of homosexuality cannot be watered down. At 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10, the Bible clearly states that “men who lie with men” are included in those who “will not inherit God’s kingdom.” But verse 11 adds the comforting thought: “And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean, but you have been sanctified, but you have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God.” Clearly, those who sincerely desired to worship God on his terms were warmly welcomed into the early Christian congregation. The same is true today for all honesthearted ones who seek God’s approval—not by reinterpreting the Bible—but by bringing their lives into harmony with it. Other questions that might be asked : Does the Bible discriminate against people with homosexual desires?— 1 Timothy 2:4. Is it possible to abstain from homosexual acts?— 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. Shouldn’t Christians respect all people, regardless of their sexual orientation? --1 Peter 2:17) — Matthew 7:12. How should members of the congregation who are found to partake in homosexual acts to be treated. ? Mt 18:15-17 1Co 5:5, 11, 13 What will happen to the congregation if this is not done. Re 2:5 1Co 5:5, 6. 2Co 2:10, 11 |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Anas09: 10:50pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. @Crusadistic is stalking me. Lol. What says what about me? Check the facts, you'll discover the truth. What are u doing here anyways? You can't stay in Islam section ba? Its to boring. Poking your nose into matters which doesn't concern u. Go and answer the questions I asked you. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Syncan(m): 6:30am On Jul 05, 2015 |
dolphinheart: Thanks. It's your turn Johnydon22. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Orunto: 10:21am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Our Conscience to know rights and wrongs is a gift and the breath of God in men and women. So the weapon to build and/or destroy ourselves jointly and severally is in our hands. God help us all to know true salvation. |
Re: Catholic Priest Says Homosexuality Is Gift From God by Nobody: 11:35am On Jul 05, 2015 |
Anas09:stop imagining me stalking u Anus,I won't happen @gay. |
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