While I was working in a muslim mosque as
an imam, as a parish priest, I preach in my
parish that Jesus Christ is not God, for me,
God was only Allah, and I believed Allah
never got married, so no sons for Allah. So I
preached there that Jesus is not God.
Then somebody ask me, who is Jesus?’’
from the crowd. Maybe a muslim, but he
asked me, who is Jesus?’’ I was preaching
he is not God, but the question is who is
he? To know who is Jesus? I read the
entire Koran once again: 114 chapters, 6666
in the Koran when I read it, the name of
prophet Muhammad. I found it in Koran 4
places, but the name of Jesus I found in 25
places. There itself, I was a little confused.
Why does the Koran give more preference
to Jesus? And second thing, I could not see
any woman’s name in Koran: the Prophet
Muhammad’s mother’s name, or wife’s
name, no, in the Koran, there is only one
woman’s name that i found is Mariam, the
mother of Jesus no other woman’s name.
And in the holy Koran chapter 3, the name
of the chapter is family of Mariam,’’ and
holy Koran chapter 19, the name of the
chapter itself is ‘’MARIAM’’ one chapter is
‘’MARIAM’’ so I was very curious to know
why does Koran says all these things about
MARIAM, holy Koran chapter 3 verse 34
onwards says that Mary was born without
original sin, she never committed any sin in
her life, she was ever virgin.
Koran chapter 50 verses 23 say that she
went to heaven with her physical body.
Even the assumption is writing in the holy
Koran and then about Jesus, when I read
chapter 3 verses 45 to 55 verses, there is 10
point which the Koran makes about Jesus.
The first thing Koran says (kallimatulli) the
arabic word which means ‘’the of God’’ and
second thing is ( ahimokuli ) which mean
spirit of God and the third (isa masi) which
means Jesus Christ so Koran give the name
for Jesus WORD OF GOD, SPIRIT OF GOD,
JESUS CHRIST. And then Koran says that
Jesus spoke when he was very small, like 2
days old. after his birth he began to speak ,
Koran says that Jesus created a live bird
with mud. He took some mud, he formed a
bird; when breathed into it, it became a live
bird. So I think Jesus can give life because
he gave life to mud, clay, and then Koran
says that Jesus cured a man born blind
and a man with leprosy, e.t.c
Curiously, the Koran says that Jesus gave
life to dead people; Jesus went to heaven;
he is still alive and he will come again.
When I saw all these things in the Koran I
taught of what Koran says about
Muhammad, according to the Koran,
prophet Muhammad is not the word of God,
not spirit of God he never spoke when he
was 2 days old, he never created any bird
with mud, he never cure any sick people, he
never raised any dead people, he himself
died, and according to Islam he is not alive
and he will not come back. So there is a lot
of different between these two prophets. I
didn’t call Jesus, God, you know my idea
was ‘’He is a prophet but he is a prophet
greater than Muhammad; so one day I went
to my teacher, the one who taught me 10
years in Arabic college, and I ask him,
teacher, how did God created the universe?
Then he said God created the universe
through the word,’’ THROUGH THE WORD.
Then my question is: ‘’WORD’’ is creator or
creation? He must clear this, my question is
whether the WORD of God is creator or
creation. Koran says Jesus is WORD of
God. If my teacher says word of God is
creator, which means Jesus is the creator,
then muslim must become Christian
suppose if he says the word is creation he
will be trapped. You know why? He said
everything was created through the word.
Suppose if he said the word is creation,
then how did God created the word? So he
cannot say that the word is creator, or
creation, so he was quite angry he push me
out of his room and said word is not God,
not creator or the creation you get out of
here, ‘’he said The reason why Muslim
doesn’t accept to be Christian is because
they are blinded with the wrong teaching of
their priest, Imam. They said that the word
is creation they try to prove it wrongly……
they say the word is not creator, not the
creation, but not God. And no creation also.
They don’t equal with God, that all their
problem. So when he said that I told my
teacher, word is not the creator or the
creation.’’ So, that is why Christian says the
word is son of God. Then he told me if there
is son for God, I must show him the wife of
God. That without wife no chance of having
a son then I showed him a portion from the
Koran. Koran says that God can see without
eyes, God can talk without tongue, God can
hear without ears. It is writing in the Koran.
I said if that is the case, so God can have a
child without a wife. I took my Koran, I put it
on my chest, and I said ‘’Allah’’, tell me
what I should do because your Koran says
Jesus is still alive, and Mohammad is no
more. Tell me whom should I accept.’’ after
my prayer I opened the Koran, I didn’t asked
anyone, I asked only my Allah. When I
opened Koran, I saw chapter 10 verses 94.
You know what Koran says? It says if you
have any doubt in this Koran which I give to
you, go and read the Bible, or ask the
people, those who read the Bible. The truth
is already revealing that.
I beg all muslim to give their life to Christ
because he is the only way to the kingdom
of God. Please don’t perish like other
muslims that is serving the god they do not
know. I welcome you into Christ Jesus as
you change your mind to accept him today.
God bless you.


source: www.gistmega.com/advice/all-muslims-must-change-to-christian-to-avoid-hellfire-formal-muslim-priest/

pls don't say a former Muslim priest.

or it could be dats how U got d news.

but I bet U dat it is equal = to falsehood.

did anybody see me here ?



ok



Oga Weldone

ok

Let them not start killing innocent people because of this

I just dey waka pass!!

Funny n confused "former" imam.
I only have questions and d answers you can give would be my replies.
Who was Quran sent through?
Would d narrator's name be mention in his narration?
How many times is Jesus (pboh) name mentioned in d bible over satan?
Are messangers of God not words of God?
Did Jesus(pboh) ordered d compilation of bible?
Answer those questions above n you will understand how confused d "former" imam is. And,btw, as a complete muslim,you must accept Jesus as one of God's messangers. Every messangers of God either narrates or writes God's messages to their people themselve and not sum supposed "annointed men"..... And God knows best.
Pls permit my grammatical error.

shegz1:
While I was working in a muslim mosque as
an imam, as a parish priest, I preach in my
parish that Jesus Christ is not God, for me,
God was only Allah, and I believed Allah
never got married, so no sons for Allah. So I
preached there that Jesus is not God.
Then somebody ask me, who is Jesus?’’
from the crowd. Maybe a muslim, but he
asked me, who is Jesus?’’ I was preaching
he is not God, but the question is who is
he? To know who is Jesus? I read the
entire Koran once again: 114 chapters, 6666
in the Koran when I read it, the name of
prophet Muhammad. I found it in Koran 4
places, but the name of Jesus I found in 25
places. There itself, I was a little confused.
Why does the Koran give more preference
to Jesus? And second thing, I could not see
any woman’s name in Koran: the Prophet
Muhammad’s mother’s name, or wife’s
name, no, in the Koran, there is only one
woman’s name that i found is Mariam, the
mother of Jesus no other woman’s name.
And in the holy Koran chapter 3, the name
of the chapter is family of Mariam,’’ and
holy Koran chapter 19, the name of the
chapter itself is ‘’MARIAM’’ one chapter is
‘’MARIAM’’ so I was very curious to know
why does Koran says all these things about
MARIAM, holy Koran chapter 3 verse 34
onwards says that Mary was born without
original sin, she never committed any sin in
her life, she was ever virgin.
Koran chapter 50 verses 23 say that she
went to heaven with her physical body.
Even the assumption is writing in the holy
Koran and then about Jesus, when I read
chapter 3 verses 45 to 55 verses, there is 10
point which the Koran makes about Jesus.
The first thing Koran says (kallimatulli) the
arabic word which means ‘’the of God’’ and
second thing is ( ahimokuli ) which mean
spirit of God and the third (isa masi) which
means Jesus Christ so Koran give the name
for Jesus WORD OF GOD, SPIRIT OF GOD,
JESUS CHRIST. And then Koran says that
Jesus spoke when he was very small, like 2
days old. after his birth he began to speak ,
Koran says that Jesus created a live bird
with mud. He took some mud, he formed a
bird; when breathed into it, it became a live
bird. So I think Jesus can give life because
he gave life to mud, clay, and then Koran
says that Jesus cured a man born blind
and a man with leprosy, e.t.c
Curiously, the Koran says that Jesus gave
life to dead people; Jesus went to heaven;
he is still alive and he will come again.
When I saw all these things in the Koran I
taught of what Koran says about
Muhammad, according to the Koran,
prophet Muhammad is not the word of God,
not spirit of God he never spoke when he
was 2 days old, he never created any bird
with mud, he never cure any sick people, he
never raised any dead people, he himself
died, and according to Islam he is not alive
and he will not come back. So there is a lot
of different between these two prophets. I
didn’t call Jesus, God, you know my idea
was ‘’He is a prophet but he is a prophet
greater than Muhammad; so one day I went
to my teacher, the one who taught me 10
years in Arabic college, and I ask him,
teacher, how did God created the universe?
Then he said God created the universe
through the word,’’ THROUGH THE WORD.
Then my question is: ‘’WORD’’ is creator or
creation? He must clear this, my question is
whether the WORD of God is creator or
creation. Koran says Jesus is WORD of
God. If my teacher says word of God is
creator, which means Jesus is the creator,
then muslim must become Christian
suppose if he says the word is creation he
will be trapped. You know why? He said
everything was created through the word.
Suppose if he said the word is creation,
then how did God created the word? So he
cannot say that the word is creator, or
creation, so he was quite angry he push me
out of his room and said word is not God,
not creator or the creation you get out of
here, ‘’he said The reason why Muslim
doesn’t accept to be Christian is because
they are blinded with the wrong teaching of
their priest, Imam. They said that the word
is creation they try to prove it wrongly……
they say the word is not creator, not the
creation, but not God. And no creation also.
They don’t equal with God, that all their
problem. So when he said that I told my
teacher, word is not the creator or the
creation.’’ So, that is why Christian says the
word is son of God. Then he told me if there
is son for God, I must show him the wife of
God. That without wife no chance of having
a son then I showed him a portion from the
Koran. Koran says that God can see without
eyes, God can talk without tongue, God can
hear without ears. It is writing in the Koran.
I said if that is the case, so God can have a
child without a wife. I took my Koran, I put it
on my chest, and I said ‘’Allah’’, tell me
what I should do because your Koran says
Jesus is still alive, and Mohammad is no
more. Tell me whom should I accept.’’ after
my prayer I opened the Koran, I didn’t asked
anyone, I asked only my Allah. When I
opened Koran, I saw chapter 10 verses 94.
You know what Koran says? It says if you
have any doubt in this Koran which I give to
you, go and read the Bible, or ask the
people, those who read the Bible. The truth
is already revealing that.
I beg all muslim to give their life to Christ
because he is the only way to the kingdom
of God. Please don’t perish like other
muslims that is serving the god they do not
know. I welcome you into Christ Jesus as
you change your mind to accept him today.
God bless you.


source: www.gistmega.com/advice/all-muslims-must-change-to-christian-to-avoid-hellfire-formal-muslim-priest/

Hmmm! Thanx for advertising your religion Mr man.We are still Muslims for life.

Christians are the one looking for trouble in Nigeria.You are the ones annoying that deadly group that I myself is afraid of it so I will not even dare to mention its name.Please Mr poster of this headlines if they see this post today and became annoyed you are responsible for whoever they kill in north.Please stop mocking them because we want Nigeria to continue to be one.I pray for Nigeria an endless peace.

Hafyz23:
Funny n confused "former" imam.
I only have questions and d answers you can give would be my replies.
Who was Quran sent through?
Would d narrator's name be mention in his narration?
How many times is Jesus (pboh) name mentioned in d bible over satan?
Are messangers of God not words of God?
Did Jesus(pboh) ordered d compilation of bible?
Answer those questions above n you will understand how confused d "former" imam is. And,btw, as a complete muslim,you must accept Jesus as one of God's messangers. Every messangers of God either narrates or writes God's messages to their people themselve and not sum supposed "annointed men"..... And God knows best.
Pls permit my grammatical error.

Quote a passage in the Qur'an that says other messengers of God are words of God, just one passage please.

Hafyz23:
Funny n confused "former" imam.
I only have questions and d answers you can give would be my replies.
Who was Quran sent through?
Would d narrator's name be mention in his narration?
How many times is Jesus (pboh) name mentioned in d bible over satan?
Are messangers of God not words of God?
Did Jesus(pboh) ordered d compilation of bible?
Answer those questions above n you will understand how confused d "former" imam is. And,btw, as a complete muslim,you must accept Jesus as one of God's messangers. Every messangers of God either narrates or writes God's messages to their people themselve and not sum supposed "annointed men"..... And God knows best.
Pls permit my grammatical error.

Quote a passage in the Qur'an that says other messengers of God are words of God, just one passage please. You have the internet to do your search if you don't remember the ayat off hand.

Imgombe2016:
Christians are the one looking for trouble in Nigeria.You are the ones annoying that deadly group that I myself is afraid of it so I will not even dare to mention its name.Please Mr poster of this headlines if they see this post today and became annoyed you are responsible for whoever they kill in north.Please stop mocking them because we want Nigeria to continue to be one.I pray for Nigeria an endless peace.

The existence of the Qur'an is enough to cause trouble for the world. It seems you've not read the Qur'an before. Don't blame Christians, blame the author of the Qur'an who incite Muslims against Christians and everybody else, who said curse be on Christians and Jews, who said Jesus did not die not to talk of resurrecting, who said Muslims should use all resources at their disposal to fight against "unbelievers" and not hold back the sword, who said any Muslim that convert to other religion should be killed by his or her own family. Yet it is in the same Qur'an that, "Let there be no compulsion in religion for truth stands out from error". That's the confusion that makes some people say Islam is a religion of peace. Muslims are peaceful people like other humans but for the Qur'an.

The world is in flames already, bloodshed everywhere because of the existence of the Qur'an. Don't be scared and don't blame anybody or thing. The Qur'an is enough an incitement for them to be violent.

Well, Jesus Christ warned us that the time is coming when those who kill his disciples will think they are offering service to God (John 16:2). And he told us to preach repentance in his name without fear. If people listen to us and are killed because they believe in Jesus, they are better of than those still alive- they enter into everlasting glory, peace and comfort. The hopeless ones are those killed in the process who have not decided to accept Jesus in their lives as Lord- although may be going to Church- or who are cowards concerning the faith or who depend on any other means to experience eternal life and peace with God other than through the blood Jesus shed for the forgiveness of our sins. They are the ones I'm begging to run to Jesus first and fast before they are killed in the church, Mosque, at home, market, in the garage or anywhere else!

Imgombe2016:
Please Mr poster of this headlines if they see this post today and became annoyed you are responsible for whoever they kill in north.

He is not responsible. Everyone is responsible for his believes and actions. Christians are also commanded to propagate their faith and should not be afraid to do so.

Imgombe2016:
Please stop mocking them because we want Nigeria to continue to be one.I pray for Nigeria an endless peace.

I read the post twice, I didn't see any mocking. I only saw someone pleading with Muslims to turn to Jesus so that they will not perish- this is love not mocking.

Thanks be to God revealing his truth to u.

It's quite funny how Quran teaches it's followers that for God to have a Son, he will use a woman.

Any Christian will immediately shout GOD FORBID to that.
Please Muslims your soul is precious. Son of God means SPIRIT of God. If u don't accept him u cannot go to Heaven. He's the mark of God's love to mankind and the cord of reconciliation.

mrZENographer:
Thanks be to God revealing his truth to u.

It's quite funny how Quran teaches it's followers that for God to have a Son, he will use a woman.

Any Christian will immediately shout GOD FORBID to that.
Please Muslims your soul is precious. Son of God means SPIRIT of God. If u don't accept him u cannot go to Heaven. He's the mark of God's love to mankind and the cord of reconciliation.

How sure are you that man is speaking True.In the Quran;if you read further,you can find that muslims are advice to live harmony with Jews and Christians.The reason for fighting them back is only when they fight muslims.Reason for killing a Muslim for leave Islam is to avoid him from hypocriting Islam.Im inviting you to be a Muslims.Don't consider those cultists acting in the name of Islam.Had been they are really muslims they will not be killing Muslims.I'm sorry if I hurted you.I'm warless.

PMIcon:


Quote a passage in the Qur'an that says other messengers of God are words of God, just one passage please. You have the internet to do your search if you don't remember the ayat off hand.

Who is that Jesus self ?Was he not sent to deliver the message of his lord?Was he the one who wrote bible?If whe was the one how did he wrote it?Before his advent.After his advent or during his advent?Don't believe in that bible as you don't know who published it first.But Qur'an was just a revelation from Thee Almighty God.Bible was not protected as it was changed in different languages.You see from there translators may make some blunders.
Was bible first published in English?
No Jesus was not an English and Muhammad too.Quran was not in English and we respect ir.But bible was not in English before.I have the Greek Bible.When I compared it with the International bible I came across many clashes.Every body believes that bible was in Jesus mother tongue not English.
What I only analysed is that:Christians are jealous to Muslims.I even confirmed that in Quran.Their plan is only how to ruin Islam.Our dying Muslims are resting in peace and your your dying people are resting in hell.
Islam is not a new religion rather a continuation of Christianity.Stop bewilding others with your poor Islamic Knowledge.Go learn Quran before you respond to me.

when you say JESUS you need not say (pboh)

before creation in him was peace, life and light. and up to this day it is still so.

Hafyz23:
Funny n confused "former" imam.
I only have questions and d answers you can give would be my replies.
Who was Quran sent through?
Would d narrator's name be mention in his narration?
How many times is Jesus (pboh) name mentioned in d bible over satan?
Are messangers of God not words of God?
Did Jesus(pboh) ordered d compilation of bible?
Answer those questions above n you will understand how confused d "former" imam is. And,btw, as a complete muslim,you must accept Jesus as one of God's messangers. Every messangers of God either narrates or writes God's messages to their people themselve and not sum supposed "annointed men"..... And God knows best.
Pls permit my grammatical error.

are you just plain stupid or is it that you cant comprehend simple uncomplicated "grammatically incorrect" English?
where and how was the author in any way trying to incite mockery?? or did to just choose to abuse the term "mock".

pls let's be sensible here. this is as comprehensive as it can be. the author just stated his views on the above subject based on his research and "mockery" is the only thing you deduced from it?

why are Muslims on this for don't they have theirs that in inaccessible to Christians so what the actual fvck are they doing here

Imgombe2016:
Christians are the one looking for trouble in Nigeria.You are the ones annoying that deadly group that I myself is afraid of it so I will not even dare to mention its name.Please Mr poster of this headlines if they see this post today and became annoyed you are responsible for whoever they kill in north.Please stop mocking them because we want Nigeria to continue to be one.I pray for Nigeria an endless peace.

If you don't accept jesus..... You will not go to heaven(fallacy of the millenium)



Why don't you let people believe in whatever they want...... There is no compulsion in faith

Imgombe2016:
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Imgombe2016 post=35950930:

How sure are you that man is speaking True.In the Quran;if you read further,you can find that muslims are advice to live harmony with Jews and Christians.The reason for fighting them back is only when they fight muslims.Reason for killing a Muslim for leave Islam is to avoid him from hypocriting Islam.Im inviting you to be a Muslims.Don't consider those cultists acting in the name of Islam.Had been they are really muslims they will not be killing Muslims.I'm sorry if I hurted you.I'm warless.

Who is that Jesus self ?Was he not sent to deliver the message of his lord?Was he the one who wrote bible?If whe was the one how did he wrote it?Before his advent.After his advent or during his advent?Don't believe in that bible as you don't know who published it first.But Qur'an was just a revelation from Thee Almighty God.Bible was not protected as it was changed in different languages.You see from there translators may make some blunders.
Was bible first published in English?
No Jesus was not an English and Muhammad too.Quran was not in English and we respect ir.But bible was not in English before.I have the Greek Bible.When I compared it with the International bible I came across many clashes.Every body believes that bible was in Jesus mother tongue not English.
What I only analysed is that:Christians are jealous to Muslims.I even confirmed that in Quran.Their plan is only how to ruin Islam.Our dying Muslims are resting in peace and your your dying people are resting in hell.
Islam is not a new religion rather a continuation of Christianity.Stop bewilding others with your poor Islamic Knowledge.Go learn Quran before you respond to me.

Imgombe2016,
1. you said so many things except answering my question.

2. you said so many things that sound like you are more knowledgeable than the author(s) of the Qur'an ( for the sake of sustainable premise of debate on this, let's just assume it is one author- Allah as you like to claim

3. you've said so many things that you cannot prove with the Qur'an

4. you've said so many things that if you attempt to prove from the Qur'an, it will be easy to prove you wrong using the same Qur'an

5. you've said so many things that you are commanded not to say or do by your Allah and your Prophet Muhammad although you are trying to defend you faith( which is understandable)

6. but confusingly you've also said so many things that you saw in the Qur'an- most arguments against Christianity are not because you people studied other references but because you read them in the Qur'an and believed them, even if contrary to reality and even when the Qur'an contradicts itself on those issues.
Just a take-away, the following are excerpts from Wikipedia on Criticisms of the Qur'an:

Critics reject the idea that the Quran is miraculously perfect and impossible to imitate (2:2, 17:88-89, 29:47, 28:49). The Jewish Encyclopedia, for example, writes: "The language of the Koran is held by the Mohammedans to be a peerless model of perfection. Critics, however, argue that peculiarities can be found in the text. For example, critics note that a sentence in which something is said concerning Allah is sometimes followed immediately by another in which Allah is the speaker (examples of this are suras xvi. 81, xxvii. 61, xxxi. 9, and xliii. 10.) Many peculiarities in the positions of words are due to the necessities of rhyme (lxix. 31, lxxiv. 3), while the use of many rare words and new forms may be traced to the same cause (comp. especially xix. 8, 9, 11, 16)."[17] According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, "The dependence of Mohammed upon his Jewish teachers or upon what he heard of the Jewish Haggadah and Jewish practices is now generally conceded."[17] Early jurists and theologians of Islam mentioned some Jewish influence but they also say where it is seen and recognized as such, it is perceived as a debasement or a dilution of the authentic message. Bernard Lewis describes this as "something like what in Christian history was called a Judaizing heresy."[18] According to Moshe Sharon, the story of Muhammad having Jewish teachers is a legend developed in the 10th century A.D.[19] Philip Schaff described the Quran as having "many passages of poetic beauty, religious fervor, and wise counsel, but mixed with absurdities, bombast, unmeaning images, low sensuality."[20]

preexisting sources

See also: Biblical narratives and the Quran

John Wansbrough believes that the Quran is a redaction in part of other sacred scriptures, in particular the Judaeo-Christian scriptures.[21][22] Herbert Berg writes that "Despite John Wansbrough's very cautious and careful inclusion of qualifications such as 'conjectural,' and 'tentative and emphatically provisional', his work is condemned by some. Some of the negative reaction is undoubtedly due to its radicalness... Wansbrough's work has been embraced wholeheartedly by few and has been employed in a piecemeal fashion by many. Many praise his insights and methods, if not all of his conclusions."[23] Gerd R. Puin's study of ancient Quran manuscripts led him to conclude that the Quran is a "cocktail of texts", some of which may have been present a hundred years before Muhammad.[3]

Confusion over speaker of certain verses

Bell and Watt thought that cases where the speaker is swearing an oath by God, such as surahs 75:1-2 and 90:1, seem unlikely to be coming from God. They also thought that Surahs 19:64 and 37:161-166 were spoken by angels, describing their being sent by God down to Earth.[24]"
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran


Why do you sound so angry even in answering a question? Can't Muslims talk about religion without getting so furious instead of being curious? If you are going to be so emotional, you can't think properly so it's better you leave this thread than hurt yourself and others.

Humblebloke:
If you don't accept jesus..... You will not go to heaven(fallacy of the millenium)



Why don't you let people believe in whatever they want...... There is no compulsion in faith

So the truth should not be told? You surely will blame me when you die for hiding the saving truth from you! So hear it, that's the truth!
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one get access or can have access or will ever have access to the Living God unless and except through the saving grace of the only Lord, God, and Saviour - Jesus Christ!!!

PMIcon:


Imgombe2016,
1. you said so many things except answering my question.

2. you said so many things that sound like you are more knowledgeable than the author(s) of the Qur'an ( for the sake of sustainable premise of debate on this, let's just assume it is one author- Allah as you like to claim

3. you've said so many things that you cannot prove with the Qur'an

4. you've said so many things that if you attempt to prove from the Qur'an, it will be easy to prove you wrong using the same Qur'an

5. you've said so many things that you are commanded not to say or do by your Allah and your Prophet Muhammad although you are trying to defend you faith( which is understandable)

6. but confusingly you've also said so many things that you saw in the Qur'an- most arguments against Christianity are not because you people studied other references but because you read them in the Qur'an and believed them, even if contrary to reality and even when the Qur'an contradicts itself on those issues.
Just a take-away, the following are excerpts from Wikipedia on Criticisms of the Qur'an:

Critics reject the idea that the Quran is miraculously perfect and impossible to imitate (2:2, 17:88-89, 29:47, 28:49). The Jewish Encyclopedia, for example, writes: "The language of the Koran is held by the Mohammedans to be a peerless model of perfection. Critics, however, argue that peculiarities can be found in the text. For example, critics note that a sentence in which something is said concerning Allah is sometimes followed immediately by another in which Allah is the speaker (examples of this are suras xvi. 81, xxvii. 61, xxxi. 9, and xliii. 10.) Many peculiarities in the positions of words are due to the necessities of rhyme (lxix. 31, lxxiv. 3), while the use of many rare words and new forms may be traced to the same cause (comp. especially xix. 8, 9, 11, 16)."[17] According to the Jewish Encyclopedia, "The dependence of Mohammed upon his Jewish teachers or upon what he heard of the Jewish Haggadah and Jewish practices is now generally conceded."[17] Early jurists and theologians of Islam mentioned some Jewish influence but they also say where it is seen and recognized as such, it is perceived as a debasement or a dilution of the authentic message. Bernard Lewis describes this as "something like what in Christian history was called a Judaizing heresy."[18] According to Moshe Sharon, the story of Muhammad having Jewish teachers is a legend developed in the 10th century A.D.[19] Philip Schaff described the Quran as having "many passages of poetic beauty, religious fervor, and wise counsel, but mixed with absurdities, bombast, unmeaning images, low sensuality."[20]

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See also: Biblical narratives and the Quran

John Wansbrough believes that the Quran is a redaction in part of other sacred scriptures, in particular the Judaeo-Christian scriptures.[21][22] Herbert Berg writes that "Despite John Wansbrough's very cautious and careful inclusion of qualifications such as 'conjectural,' and 'tentative and emphatically provisional', his work is condemned by some. Some of the negative reaction is undoubtedly due to its radicalness... Wansbrough's work has been embraced wholeheartedly by few and has been employed in a piecemeal fashion by many. Many praise his insights and methods, if not all of his conclusions."[23] Gerd R. Puin's study of ancient Quran manuscripts led him to conclude that the Quran is a "cocktail of texts", some of which may have been present a hundred years before Muhammad.[3]

Confusion over speaker of certain verses

Bell and Watt thought that cases where the speaker is swearing an oath by God, such as surahs 75:1-2 and 90:1, seem unlikely to be coming from God. They also thought that Surahs 19:64 and 37:161-166 were spoken by angels, describing their being sent by God down to Earth.[24]"
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_the_Quran


Why do you sound so angry even in answering a question? Can't Muslims talk about religion without getting so furious instead of being curious? If you are going to be so emotional, you can't think properly so it's better you leave this thread than hurt yourself and others.

Thanks PMIcon let's drop away the thread.It obviously looks like you are wareless too.I appreciate you very well.I will follow your Nairaland account right now.My Endless thanx bros.

PraiseDLord:


So the truth should not be told? You surely will blame me when you die for hiding the saving truth from you! So hear it, that's the truth!
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, no one get access or can have access or will ever have access to the Living God unless and except through the saving grace of the only Lord, God, and Saviour - Jesus Christ!!!

The truth

Blame you..... You. Must be a clown

I'm living my life...... I will account for it myself

Why are you a christian..... Lemme guess; You have found inner peace,You feel like you are free......you are so connected to your God(jesus)

Why should it be a problem when someone else shares a different belief..... When its makes them fulfilled and they feel so connected to their creator

Please......seek knowledge,it will do you a lot of good

shegz1:
While I was working in a muslim mosque as
an imam, as a parish priest, I preach in my
parish that Jesus Christ is not God, for me,
God was only Allah, and I believed Allah
never got married, so no sons for Allah. So I
preached there that Jesus is not God.
Then somebody ask me, who is Jesus?’’
from the crowd. Maybe a muslim, but he
asked me, who is Jesus?’’ I was preaching
he is not God, but the question is who is
he? To know who is Jesus? I read the
entire Koran once again: 114 chapters, 6666
in the Koran when I read it, the name of
prophet Muhammad. I found it in Koran 4
places, but the name of Jesus I found in 25
places. There itself, I was a little confused.
Why does the Koran give more preference
to Jesus? And second thing, I could not see
any woman’s name in Koran: the Prophet
Muhammad’s mother’s name, or wife’s
name, no, in the Koran, there is only one
woman’s name that i found is Mariam, the
mother of Jesus no other woman’s name.
And in the holy Koran chapter 3, the name
of the chapter is family of Mariam,’’ and
holy Koran chapter 19, the name of the
chapter itself is ‘’MARIAM’’ one chapter is
‘’MARIAM’’ so I was very curious to know
why does Koran says all these things about
MARIAM, holy Koran chapter 3 verse 34
onwards says that Mary was born without
original sin, she never committed any sin in
her life, she was ever virgin.
Koran chapter 50 verses 23 say that she
went to heaven with her physical body.
Even the assumption is writing in the holy
Koran and then about Jesus, when I read
chapter 3 verses 45 to 55 verses, there is 10
point which the Koran makes about Jesus.
The first thing Koran says (kallimatulli) the
arabic word which means ‘’the of God’’ and
second thing is ( ahimokuli ) which mean
spirit of God and the third (isa masi) which
means Jesus Christ so Koran give the name
for Jesus WORD OF GOD, SPIRIT OF GOD,
JESUS CHRIST. And then Koran says that
Jesus spoke when he was very small, like 2
days old. after his birth he began to speak ,
Koran says that Jesus created a live bird
with mud. He took some mud, he formed a
bird; when breathed into it, it became a live
bird. So I think Jesus can give life because
he gave life to mud, clay, and then Koran
says that Jesus cured a man born blind
and a man with leprosy, e.t.c
Curiously, the Koran says that Jesus gave
life to dead people; Jesus went to heaven;
he is still alive and he will come again.
When I saw all these things in the Koran I
taught of what Koran says about
Muhammad, according to the Koran,
prophet Muhammad is not the word of God,
not spirit of God he never spoke when he
was 2 days old, he never created any bird
with mud, he never cure any sick people, he
never raised any dead people, he himself
died, and according to Islam he is not alive
and he will not come back. So there is a lot
of different between these two prophets. I
didn’t call Jesus, God, you know my idea
was ‘’He is a prophet but he is a prophet
greater than Muhammad; so one day I went
to my teacher, the one who taught me 10
years in Arabic college, and I ask him,
teacher, how did God created the universe?
Then he said God created the universe
through the word,’’ THROUGH THE WORD.
Then my question is: ‘’WORD’’ is creator or
creation? He must clear this, my question is
whether the WORD of God is creator or
creation. Koran says Jesus is WORD of
God. If my teacher says word of God is
creator, which means Jesus is the creator,
then muslim must become Christian
suppose if he says the word is creation he
will be trapped. You know why? He said
everything was created through the word.
Suppose if he said the word is creation,
then how did God created the word? So he
cannot say that the word is creator, or
creation, so he was quite angry he push me
out of his room and said word is not God,
not creator or the creation you get out of
here, ‘’he said The reason why Muslim
doesn’t accept to be Christian is because
they are blinded with the wrong teaching of
their priest, Imam. They said that the word
is creation they try to prove it wrongly……
they say the word is not creator, not the
creation, but not God. And no creation also.
They don’t equal with God, that all their
problem. So when he said that I told my
teacher, word is not the creator or the
creation.’’ So, that is why Christian says the
word is son of God. Then he told me if there
is son for God, I must show him the wife of
God. That without wife no chance of having
a son then I showed him a portion from the
Koran. Koran says that God can see without
eyes, God can talk without tongue, God can
hear without ears. It is writing in the Koran.
I said if that is the case, so God can have a
child without a wife. I took my Koran, I put it
on my chest, and I said ‘’Allah’’, tell me
what I should do because your Koran says
Jesus is still alive, and Mohammad is no
more. Tell me whom should I accept.’’ after
my prayer I opened the Koran, I didn’t asked
anyone, I asked only my Allah. When I
opened Koran, I saw chapter 10 verses 94.
You know what Koran says? It says if you
have any doubt in this Koran which I give to
you, go and read the Bible, or ask the
people, those who read the Bible. The truth
is already revealing that.
I beg all muslim to give their life to Christ
because he is the only way to the kingdom
of God. Please don’t perish like other
muslims that is serving the god they do not
know. I welcome you into Christ Jesus as
you change your mind to accept him today.
God bless you.


source: www.gistmega.com/advice/all-muslims-must-change-to-christian-to-avoid-hellfire-formal-muslim-priest/

Na waa for u oo, Jesus didn't even read Bible