Na this kind thing suppose full NL...
Not all these yeye topic;
1. BBN
2. Apostle Suleiman
3. MMM
4. Davido matter.

jodeci:


6.3 aint bad,but be careful of what u eat since your dad had it.

Chairman using the glucometer check is not exactly accurate. Use a reputable lab that runs chemistry with their electrophoretic machine. If it's still slightly greater than 6 you are in d pre-diabetic range. Start dieting, and inculcate exercise into ur routine. A brisk walk for 30mins 4 times a week will be enuf or cycling for 20mins.

Lastly shun Ponzi schemes as such loots are used to engage in irrelevant enjoyment DAT could harm your health in d long run.

Sgt Ponzi Hater.

Cucumber works wonders for diabetic patients.

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sgtponzihater:


OP ur senior brothers in the profession( herbal doctors) are gradually taking over this thread. Make God help you.

Baroba:


4.0 to 6.0 mmol/l fasting ( blood sugar level when you have just woken up in the morning without eating) 7.6mmol/l 2 hrs post meal.. It might go over slightly but once its not too far from the numbers mentioned, you are still OK..

This is slightly obsolete now, though still useful.

The better test is the HbA1c test. Where possible insist on this test.

Reason is that it shows how your body has been managing sugar over the past 3 months at least.

More reliable than how your body managed sugar over the past 12 hours or so, in the case of fasting blood glucose.

Quite informative

A 67 year old retiree who has diabetes and high bp is now on Ruzu. Her medics bill has dropped fro 10k a week to 3k a month and reducing. Cos she has stopped her insulin injections and later, she won't need to take Ruzu anymore, unless to just maintain her overall health.

I supplied her personally. No joke.

Also, read up on intermittent fasting and diabetes. There was an extensive research on this issue and the effect of intermittent fasting on cancer, the research was done by one English scientist like that and reviewed by peers. Please Google intermittent fasting for (insert ailment) and read up.
Disclaimer: I'm no medical student or a medical personnel and have no medical training. I just like to read up on stuff. So take whatever you read at your own discretion. And ahem, always discuss any new procedure or discovery with your doctor before embarking on it. Thank you.

AreaFada2:


This is slightly obsolete now, though still useful.

The better test is the HbA1c test. Where possible insist on this test.

Reason is that it shows how your body has been managing sugar over the past 3 months at least.

More reliable than how your body managed sugar over the past 12 hours or so, in the case of fasting blood glucose.

It's not obsolete in anyway. Infact using a fasting is the best way to diagnose diabetes world wide. You mention diabetes diagnosis without mentioning fastig then you are on ur own. Diabetes diagnosis is simple

2 fasting > 7
random> 11.1
HBAIC > 6.5

However d first 2 is better for diagnosis while HBA1C or glycated haemoglobin is better for follow up. For already diagnosis patients who take insulin before visiting d Clinic it shows glucose control over a long time like you earlier stated.

sgtponzihater:


It's not obsolete in anyway. Infact using a fasting is the best way to diagnose diabetes world wide. You mention diabetes diagnosis without mentioning fastig then you are on ur own. Diabetes diagnosis is simple

2 fasting > 7
random> 11.1
HBAIC > 6.5

However d first 2 is better for diagnosis while HBA1C or glycated haemoglobin is better for follow up. For already diagnosis patients who take insulin before visiting d Clinic it shows glucose control over a long time like you earlier stated.

So you mean HbA1c >6.5 would not be diagnostic? Which country is that?

I can confirm to you that many practitioners ignore the first 2. Whether for diagnostic or follow up.

The potential lack of compliance with fasting (patient could have eaten well past midnight and not admit it) alone is enough to render it potentially problematic.

Of course in an emergency situation, random would still be useful.

With glycated there is now that it has been there for a while.

In resource poor climes, the first two are certainly still useful.

AreaFada2:


So you mean HbA1c >6.5 would not be diagnostic? Which country is that?

I can confirm to you that many practitioners ignore the first 2. Whether for diagnostic or follow up.

The potential lack of compliance with fasting (patient could have eaten well past midnight and not admit it) alone is enough to render it potentially problematic.

Of course in an emergency situation, random would still be useful.

With glycated there is now that it has been there for a while.

In resource poor climes, the first two are certainly still useful.

U might have a problem with reading but it's understood. Many Nigerian doctors think medicine is a superiority tussle. Take any modern medicine textbook 2017 edition even. FBS always comes before HBA1C in diagnosis. But my write up clearly states that glycated haemoglobin is a tool for diagnosis but if a suspected diabetic comes my way I won't run after HBA1C first. There are other phraseologies that make HBA1C limited for example post pandrial hyperglycaemia is now a wide subject of discussion all over the world. It's increased risk for cardiac and cerebrovascular accident is now an accepted hypothesis. HBAIC cannot monitor those intricacies. Keep it calm and simple. Manage the patient and don't be a book worm. I warn people to avoid Nigerian doctors if they have d means because of their know it all disposition.

Avoid packaged wheat...buy natural ones.
Avoid all soda drinks
avoid anything with sucrose, saccharin on it.
Always read the content of anything youare buying.
Drink more of smoothies than juices.
Avoid heavy meals of rice, yam, bread, irish potateos fried plantian, spaghetti, Garri(drinking or eba), pineapples, bananas, mangoes, oranges(eat little). If you've not yet stabilized your sugar levels then avoid these listed foods entirely.

Do exercise at least 20mins a day.

Avoid foods with lots of oil/cholesterol/fat etc

Be careful of the kind of flavours you put in your meals...avoid gluten laden foods.

Always have your 3 square meals in very moderate portions.

Rest well always.
Drink a lot of water daily.

My two cents.

Ok you wont see much people reading this because its about health. They prefer reading rubbish stories.

As much as this piece written above is useful, its best for a diabetics patient to visit a dietician cos they are trained specialist in that field, besides food intake of diabetic patients vary from one individual to the other depending on the level of their diabetes and their calorie requirement....

ajaxtea:
As much as this piece written above is useful, its best for a diabetics patient to visit a dietician cos they are trained specialist in that field, besides food intake of diabetic patients vary from one individual to the other depending on the level of their diabetes and their calorie requirement....

Rubbish. Diatecians are of no use in my humble opinion. I got hold of a diabetic food chart by WHO abit similar but more comprehensive than that posted by the OP and give my friends and relatives having diabetes and the complaint once have been doing perfectly. Diatetics is just a field to reduce unemployment, most I know are either extremely obese or grossly anorexic. I would respected Nigerian doctors and pharmacists but their ego is above board. Nigerian nurses are undereducated while lab scientists are quacks killing medical practice in Nigera. I advice people to seek care abroad for now that's were u appreciate medicine.

sgtponzihater:


U might have a problem with reading but it's understood. Many Nigerian doctors think medicine is a superiority tussle. Take any modern medicine textbook 2017 edition even. FBS always comes before HBA1C in diagnosis. But my write up clearly states that glycated haemoglobin is a tool for diagnosis but if a suspected diabetic comes my way I won't run after HBA1C first. There are other phraseologies that make HBA1C limited for example post pandrial hyperglycaemia is now a wide subject of discussion all over the world. It's increased risk for cardiac and cerebrovascular accident is now an accepted hypothesis. HBAIC cannot monitor those intricacies. Keep it calm and simple. Manage the patient and don't be a book worm. I warn people to avoid Nigerian doctors if they have d means because of their know it all disposition.

There is no tussle here. And for a person supposedly in a noble profession, your manners and generalisation leave a lot to desired.

Thing is I'm privy to two local studies with unacceptably high levels of false negatives using FBS.

It is about what is best in light of what is diagnostically possible. I'm not talking about books here. I know a certain co-author of one of the most used books internationally. But she's not an expert in all aspects of med.

I'm rather talking about expert diabetologists/endocrinologists.

Common sense tells me that it is a bit unfair to condemn all Nigerian doctors.

However, I do not know about the education or clinical practice of ALL of them. But for those that I know plying their trade across many countries, they are certainly very well-respected. For their knowledge, confidence, hard work, professionalism and can do attitude.

sgtponzihater:


Rubbish. Diatecians are of no use in my humble opinion. I got hold of a diabetic food chart by WHO abit similar but more comprehensive than that posted by the OP and give my friends and relatives having diabetes and the complaint once have been doing perfectly. Diatetics is just a field to reduce unemployment, most I know are either extremely obese or grossly anorexic. I would respected Nigerian doctors and pharmacists but their ego is above board. Nigerian nurses are undereducated while lab scientists are quacks killing medical practice in Nigera. I advice people to seek care abroad for now that's were u appreciate medicine.

Can you explain the bolded?
1. How are they quacks?
2. How are they killing medical practice in Nigeria?

AreaFada2:


There is no tussle here. And for a person supposedly in a noble profession, your manners and generalisation leave a lot to desired.

Thing is I'm privy to two local studies with unacceptably high levels of false negatives using FBS.

It is about what is best in light of what is diagnostically possible. I'm not talking about books here. I know a certain co-author of one of the most used books internationally. But she's not an expert in all aspects of med.

I'm rather talking about expert diabetologists/endocrinologists.

Common sense tells me that it is a bit unfair to condemn all Nigerian doctors.

However, I do not know about the education or clinical practice of ALL of them. But for those that I know plying their trade across many countries, they are certainly very well-respected. For their knowledge, confidence, hard work, professionalism and can do attitude.

you say he condemned Nigeria doctors? He has condemn the full Nigerian health sector. Doctors and pharmacists - pride, Nurses - Undertrained, MLS - Quacks (What more?) I feel he's entitled to his opinion sha.

But in a way he's right though, HbA1C isn't really a diagnostic test for diabetes it's more like a follow up test cos it doesn't tell the real picture at that particular point. Most go with FPG (Fasting plasma glucose), 2 Hours post pandrial test (RBS) and OGTT.

Most Nigerian private hospitals use glucometer to run their samples (I think in a bid to cut costs) and it doesn't tell the actual state as the result are grossly inaccurate. When you compare a glucometer result from the routinely chemistry result you will see the gross inaccuracy.

HbA1C will only measure the glucose level in the body over a period of 2-3 months though it's values will still be elevated in diabetics but FPG/FBS gives you the real picture of how glucose is metabolised.

nelszx:


you say he condemned Nigeria doctors? He has condemn the full Nigerian health sector. Doctors and pharmacists - pride, Nurses - Undertrained, MLS - Quacks (What more?) I feel he's entitled to his opinion sha.

But in a way he's right though, HbA1C isn't really a diagnostic test for diabetes it's more like a follow up test cos it doesn't tell the real picture at that particular point. Most go with FPG (Fasting plasma glucose), 2 Hours post pandrial test (RBS) and OGTT.

Most Nigerian private hospitals use glucometer to run their samples (I think in a bid to cut costs) and it doesn't tell the actual state as the result are grossly inaccurate. When you compare a glucometer result from the routinely chemistry result you will see the gross inaccuracy.

HbA1C will only measure the glucose level in the body over a period of 2-3 months though it's values will still be elevated in diabetics but FPG/FBS gives you the real picture of how glucose is metabolised.

God bless u bro. A glucometer test is used only in d emergency department to have an idea while sample is taken to the lab for real chemistry. The glucometer is not exactly as accurate. Nigerian doctors are half trained we no a certain concept we don't know how it fits in d whole picture yet we go about making a mountain out of that concept. I saw a Corper with a HBA1C rapid kit, he explained to a chap dat it measure s overall glucose control. I asked d dude how the test goes and he said he'll take the fasting and multiply it with a certain factor. I dragged my friend away as the doctor just wanted money. These days I send my friends to Clinalancet and pathcare. Nigerian health sector needs a overhaul. I stand for the truth no matter how harsh.

sgtponzihater:


God bless u bro. A glucometer test is used only in d emergency department to have an idea while sample is taken to the lab for real chemistry. The glucometer is not exactly as accurate. Nigerian doctors are half trained we no a certain concept we don't know how it fits in d whole picture yet we go about making a mountain out of that concept. I saw a Corper with a HBA1C rapid kit, he explained to a chap dat it measure s overall glucose control. I asked d dude how the test goes and he said he'll take the fasting and multiply it with a certain factor. I dragged my friend away as the doctor just wanted money. These days I send my friends to Clinalancet and pathcare. Nigerian health sector needs a overhaul. I stand for the truth no matter how harsh.

At the bolded, for real multiply what with what (thats robbery of the highest possible order) HbA1C is a follow up test for a span of 2-3 months and not suitable for everyone in establishing a diagnosis for diabetes (HbSS)and people who just had a citrus drink before sample collection will cause interference on the analysis with HbA1C. The corper wants money my brother

At the italicised, the same people you call quacks are the ones running the samples and giving you results

Nigeria health sector doesn't need overhaul it just needs a re-orientation about how things work in saner climes and the benefits of dignity in labour. I know of one old consultant then during my internship, he'll always say he knows all he knows today cos of his inter professional relationship with other teams (always prepared to ask you anything he doesn't understand so you put him through even if its from an intern).

funmisticqueen:

stop this scamming, if it trully works then where are testimonies of people who used it

Scamming? With all due respect, are you attacking or what? If you have read the thread, you will see countless number of testimonies posted here and there. Probably you just wanted to get my attention. You have it.

funmisticqueen:

stop this scamming, if it trully works then where are testimonies of people who used it

You can check these videos on youtube though...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM9aHBHF18I

Check out this link and you will see some videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9gmO1JuHu8lX4Jh4POrVaAyQOiNFaxbo

Check this thread here on Nairaland and you will see some written testimonies: https://www.nairaland.com/2207018/diabetic-infertile-fibroid-experience-miscarriages#44485137

Thank You.

nelszx:


At the bolded, for real multiply what with what (thats robbery of the highest possible order) HbA1C is a follow up test for a span of 2-3 months and not suitable for everyone in establishing a diagnosis for diabetes (HbSS)and people who just had a citrus drink before sample collection will cause interference on the analysis with HbA1C. The corper wants money my brother

At the italicised, the same people you call quacks are the ones running the samples and giving you results

Nigeria health sector doesn't need overhaul it just needs a re-orientation about how things work in saner climes and the benefits of dignity in labour. I know of one old consultant then during my internship, he'll always say he knows all he knows today cos of his inter professional relationship with other teams (always prepared to ask you anything he doesn't understand so you put him through even if its from an intern).

You've spoken rightly bro. HBA1C is better as a follow up test. Sometimes a C-peptide is also done to differentiate type 1 and type 2 DM

Thanks OP.

Hmmmmm.


That your normal diet is all carbohydrates. And you are banning proteins?.

sgtponzihater:


You've spoken rightly bro. HBA1C is better as a follow up test. Sometimes a C-peptide is also done to differentiate type 1 and type 2 DM

You sure know your onion very well. Well most don't want care the type as DM is DM lol (well cost implications are considered)

nelszx:


Can you explain the bolded?
1. How are they quacks?
2. How are they killing medical practice in Nigeria?

Very wrong comment from me but it's out of some anger. An uncle was getting unnessarily obese while he wasn't eating too much. He went to a private hosp and a glucometer check was done and he was told its diabetes and immediately started on medications. I wasn't convinced so I asked him to try LUTH. On getting there a 200level medical student spent time taking irrelevant history from him. When d consultant eventually saw him he never touched his patient or looked at his patient. "If you are getting fat then watch ur feeding now and don't bother me with such details", " if you are no more performing well don't u know u are fat?", prescribed glucophage and that was all. LUTH of all places couldn't come close to solving the problem. I apologised for advising him on LUTH when he called back and suggested he tried the UK. He went to a clinic where he was immediately referred to a neuroendocrinologist. He was told that they'll need to do some investigations to know why he is gaining weight, having diminished libido and getting darker. A multitude of blood test was done. He consultant even accompanied him to the MRI and CT room and in less than 15mins a tumour was found to be the cause. The tumor had not metastasised and it's was non-malignant. It was resected and within 3months my uncle was in Nigeria back to normal. So I know how angry I am when I see Nigerian doctors and health workers.

sgtponzihater:


Very wrong comment from me but it's out of some anger. An uncle was getting unnessarily obese while he wasn't eating too much. He went to a private hosp and a glucometer check was done and he was told its diabetes and immediately started on medications. I wasn't convinced so I asked him to try LUTH. On getting there a 200level medical student spent time taking irrelevant history from him. When d consultant eventually saw him he never touched his patient or looked at his patient. "If you are getting fat then watch ur feeding now and don't bother me with such details", " if you are no more performing well don't u know u are fat?", prescribed glucophage and that was all. LUTH of all places couldn't come close to solving the problem. I apologised for advising him on LUTH when he called back and suggested he tried the UK. He went to a clinic where he was immediately referred to a neuroendocrinologist. He was told that they'll need to do some investigations to know why he is gaining weight, having diminished libido and getting darker. A multitude of blood test was done. He consultant even accompanied him to the MRI and CT room and in less than 15mins a tumour was found to be the cause. The tumor had not metastasised and it's was non-malignant. It was resected and within 3months my uncle was in Nigeria back to normal. So I know how angry I am when I see Nigerian doctors and health workers.

I understand the anger it's only normal if I were to be in your shoes I'd feel same way too