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Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 7:17pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
plaetton: Offside. The point is whether the error makes you a real bad guy. Does it? 2. assuming the reproduced copy gave other facts correctly, does that one error make the whole work faulty? Assuming he correctly copied all other stories about u correctly, but intead of writing "mild", he wrote "wild" in just one area. 3. What if the one-error copy is not the only one in circulation, and there are many other copies to verify from? And eventuallly that little error is removed? I hope scientific research are all fabrication? 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by plaetton: 7:34pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
JMAN05:Pls kindly present us with the original version of the bible, that way, we can dispel and dispense with the erroneous Versions forthwith. Till then, the bible cannot be relied upon as an arbiter of any truth. Simple. |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 7:39pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
plaetton: Answer the questions Oga. |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by plaetton: 8:13pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
JMAN05:Lol. Just look at you and your funny attempt rewrite history. You selectively forget that the op is not concerned with typograpgical errors here, but the much more insidious issue of FABRICATIONS. That's a world of difference. A FABRICATION is lie, a deliberate act of deception,. And very often, ill motivated. Another point You selectively forgot is that the bible is Supposed to be the inspired words of an Inerrant God. So, how does error, typograpgical or deliberate, FABRICATIONs, innocent or ill motivated, infiltrate a divine masterpiece, a supposed BLUEPRINT for human affair? By Even suggesting the possibility of error or errors, can you at least be honest that the bible is therefore not entirely the inspired word of a divine god, but more like the words of tingods? 2 Likes |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 10:25pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
plaetton: Just the same way you could write ur biography and someone copying it will make mistake or fabricate a story not part of your original. That the original made does not contain fabrication, does not prevent evildoers inserting a fabricated text. Neither does a small fabrication make the whole text wrong. That's the point of the thread. That a fabrication crept in does not make all writeups in the document wrong. For the bible, these fabrications are small and had been removed. And you keep dodging it when ur reasoning was applied to piltdown man. If you don't agree that this fabrication makes all scientific theory false, then its funny how you think that a small fabrication can ruin the whole writeup in the scriptures. Let alone when the error had been detected. 2 Likes |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by plaetton: 10:47pm On Jul 25, 2015 |
JMAN05: To boast that the original does not contain fabrications, you would need to show the original. Not so? So, have you ever seen the original bible, and, where is it? If you have neither seen nor can produce the original bible, directly inspired by god, then your arguments are null and void.,, just the same ol "make-it-up-as-you-go" worldviews that we have been used to. 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 3:08pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
plaetton: The piltdown man didn't get u thinking? You can present us with the original copies of Plato's writings, let's know which one is truly spurious. You tell us why you scientist use his work when there is no autograph and when fabrication of his works exists? 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by plaetton: 3:32pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
JMAN05:You're getting silly here. This op is not about pluto's writings. I never said, nor have I heard that pluto's writings are the infallible truths inspired by god. Why are you being so shifty? Focus on the issue. |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
plaetton: Neither have we claimed that a dubious person can't fabricate a story and include it in his copy of the bible. Don't forget the op's point, an error or fabrication making the entire work false. If that was so, Plato's works are all false. Think. If without the autograph, you view Plato's works as being his, why the noise about the bible? Did those fabricated works crumble the real ones? 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 10:38pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
plaetton: Yeah! in your world, if you are a CEO, you dictated a msg to your Secretary to a media house, and the secretary or the press, along the process deliberately or by omissions, or error, added or subtracted some part of your msg, that should automatically makes you a liar. have you seen your life and reasoning ? if you subsequently, over time published a rejoinder to that effect, No! you must be tagged a liar to suit the ulterior motive of your detractors, owing to that initial action. I hope you will be very happy if you were the CEO. some of us are not like you you know ? |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 11:02pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
plaetton: Continue remaining, and keeping yourself in your comfort zone and continue 'imagining' that the world starts and end with what you think and know. what can I tell you? you that knows all ? |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 11:08pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
plaetton: Yeah! yes, just like you showed us 'Big Bang' evidence on the 31st of Dec. last year as evidence for your belief.. SMH foy you. |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 11:21pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
JMAN05: Any book that he has ever red that has error is invalid. forgetting that humans are allowed to express their freewill and hence will be judge based on that. If the hands of all evil men on earth were held back from carrying out evil, then, all of mankind would have been perfect. but No. every man is allowed to show by his actions what sort of person he is. why then should someone that wishes to alter God's word be prevented from doing so while the murderer next door was allowed to kill ? meanwhile, the both of them will be judge by their deeds. is that not partiality? |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 11:31pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
How can @Jman05 be the silly person from the below lines of responses: plaetton: JMAN05: plaetton: The above is a classic example why your lot has a standing tag by the psamist. keep wallowing. 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by truthislight: 11:36pm On Jul 26, 2015 |
JMAN05: Thank you @Jman. Your whole argument is legit. Peace. 1 Like |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Jul 27, 2015 |
truthislight: I guess he understood the point. But since the bible is concerned, he won't admit anything that vindicates it. I don't know about frosbel. |
Re: Can One Lie Disqualify A Truth ? by Nobody: 6:01pm On Jul 27, 2015 |
truthislight: We praise Jah! |
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