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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by jimfend: 3:17pm On Sep 10, 2015
luorquay:


Read the thread again
Would you please read it aloud for me?
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 3:18pm On Sep 10, 2015
engrkenny:


I think I perfectly understand your viewpoint, but I must say you were not patient enough to read down the post, you ended up mixing up what I wrote. Am not an entrepreneurship activist, like you made it appear, neither am I oblivious of all the hurdles against surviving in the business world.
My post only came along after reflecting on a previous week's events, having read through the other post by dearpreye. If you must know, my journey into entrepreneurship didn't start today, long story, but that's not what I wish to discuss here anyway.
Post is meant to be a support to the call for change in mentality which the other post advocated for.
Not like I didn't learn from the points you raised, your points are well taken.


Edited

As for my dream job, you don't wanna hear it.

Thanks for taking the time to square up things with him.

To be misunderstood can be quote frustrating sometimes.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 3:27pm On Sep 10, 2015
yusufobinna1:
I love this and I mean it, I work presently as a contract staff in a bank but I guess this is d right time to opt out,I have an idea that can fetch me far more than am receiving now and I think I ll have to give myself quick notice on the job.

Good. A lil savings to survive the rough patch is also wise.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Bowaley17(m): 3:29pm On Sep 10, 2015
Huh... Nigeria where a lawyer works in a bank...
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Kingsasian(m): 3:34pm On Sep 10, 2015
AgapeCharis:
Dang! Right on spot. I felt like I was reading from someone that had access to see my thoughts.

I once heard a friend talking with someone one day when she made mention of a restaurant she used to work with around Ikeja. She was working with the chocolate and ice cream section and she said they (chocolate and ice cream section) make up to 5 million naira daily. Of course, that's just one of the many outlets they have in Lagos.

Someone once said; work hard at your job and you'll earn a living. Work hard on yourself and earn yourself a fortune.

I can't get paid just 12 times in 365 days! Mba
I love this
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Godsonkemz(m): 3:45pm On Sep 10, 2015
May God strenghten you as you take that bold step. And as long as you put him first, he will always give u the wisdom and courage you needed to survive in ur choice of business. In my previous post, i emphasised on the need for our youths especially those who had struggled for years to secure job or admission to carve a niche for themselves not necessarily their line of discipline and make it their passion since certificate is no longer a guarantee to getting hired. Not even ones with Phd. Afterall if u present PhD, dey might say ur over qualified, B.sc, underqualified. Or even ones age can get him/her disqualified. Not to mention years of experience. If i should advise those who are killing themselves for admission, let dem go and acquire skill or learn trade. Those who finished from that same institution since Abraham are still roaming the street in search of jobs. I'm not saying that acquiring degree is bad. One of my company's rich customers who happened to be my junior in the high school days is now a successful man. He was able to learn trade when his colleagues were studying in the university. Right now he deals in millions when his learned colleagues in high school are still struggling to get a white collar job of 70k monthly while he makes profit of a million daily. Unemployment is one of the biggest challenges facing every country not just Nigeria. But i believe our government has more to do to correct this situation not just the private sectors. Its gon b well in Jesus amen.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by careermentor(m): 3:46pm On Sep 10, 2015
Indeed IDEAS are the liberators from a life of want, poverty and misery. I hasten to say that Ideas are not enough. You need to know how to translate your ideas into INNOVATIONS. First, your ideas has to attract the necessary financing and other support system to make the idea see the light of the day.
babyfaceafrica:
Nigerians have ideas,but the environment is not friendly to must of them,nevertheless with sheer perseverance and hardwork,we will get there.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 3:58pm On Sep 10, 2015
yusufobinna1:
I love this and I mean it, I work presently as a contract staff in a bank but I guess this is d right time to opt out,I have an idea that can fetch me far more than am receiving now and I think I ll have to give myself quick notice on the job.
I'm glad you're inspired. Having set necessary logistics in place, nothing should deter you from taking that bold step. More grace sir.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 3:59pm On Sep 10, 2015
engrkenny:


Hahahaha, what an assertion there.
grin grin grin
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by mentorandfriend(m): 4:03pm On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


This is the second time you're blessing me in as many days.

Jim Rohn comes to mind. It's a fact that opportunities are everywhere.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 4:04pm On Sep 10, 2015
engrkenny:
I have been shying away from posting a reply on here since the topic surfaced earlier today, having somewhat found myself at this same crossroad since passing out of nysc two months ago, I didn't feel worthy to claim to have answers to the concerns raised by those two brothers. Albeit, mine tends to be a matter of ambivalence at the moment, wouldn't want to talk about myself here tho.

My two pence... True life story...

Last two days, I found myself inside a klimanjaro fast food, after a hot and usually exhaustive aptitude test somewhere in the southern part of the country, trying to cool off. Somewhere on the south wall of the restaurant had a board hanging, with a caption "OUR STORY" a short write up about how the klimanjaro most of us used to impress babes those days back in school was a brainchild of a few young Nigerians and bla bla, I bent down and asked myself, so why spend close to 5k on transport and almost sustained a hip dislocation on terrible roads just to sit for another frustration in the guise of a recruitment test? Coincidentally just this same week a cousin of mine quit her IT job at a local fast food place, her reason....stress, guess what, she works in the account section, on probing further she revealed this people make a subtle 900k a day, and it's just one of their many outlets, I smiled and told her she wouldn't understand, she's still in school and would definitely get cash for all her needs including hairdo by September.

Summary of my long story.......I have decided, no more job tests, no more unsolicited cv submissions, and don't mistake me, I don't despise salary jobs, I'll gladly accept to grow working for someone else, but am no longer going to beg for it. I join my voice to that of many young and knowledgeable young people out there to ask......hw can with all my numeracy, all my computer skills, all my analytical skills, good command of English, I am to be put through scorn in the name of recruitment and I have to be grateful if I get one at last?

I have decided to explore my inner self, does it mean with all I know I can't solve any of the problems I join every other person to complain about everyday? There must be something I can do to make some cash and invest same into acquiring some real hands on technical skills, which has always been my passion, while relying totally on God, the giver of all things.

Any like minded youngsters should start developing same mentality too, no matter how difficult that seems. God bless us all.

This is a very brave decision!

However, avoid the urge to over-spiritualize
things. Remember there are bills to pay.

Think about it this way: Using what you have now,
whose problem can you solve right now?


Understand how the marketplace works: people are
only going to buy what solves a problem for them.
And if nobody is buying anything from you now, you
are not giving them a reason to.

All the best!

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 4:04pm On Sep 10, 2015
ronald4lif:


Everybody don get sense for money. I be mumu no be how to strategise and make dough. cheesy

But no be say you talk am sha. Fixed salary jobs doesn't make sense in today's contemporary world. Self-employment is smarter and way better not just in income earning but on the flexibility and freedom it provides. Work on your own schedule, no unnecessary pressure to meet target and no excuses. Its the way to go for anyone who have got the will to start up something no matter the capacity of their finances.
Exactly! It's not just in the income but also in the flexibility and freedom. For instance, you can't be working in two organizations at the same time but you can manage more than one business if willing. Most of the salary jobs we have today gives what I call cooperate slavery.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 4:08pm On Sep 10, 2015
dearpreye:


This is the second time you're blessing me in as many days.

Jim Rohn comes to mind. It's a fact that opportunities are everywhere.
I'm honoured sir. Thanks

So true. Opportunities are everywhere. All we need to do is sit back and think. There must be something we can do. There must be a solution we can profer to a problem somewhere that can fetch money. I thank God for this awakening. It has revived a new fire within me.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 4:11pm On Sep 10, 2015
Alezy:
my brother am seriously inlove with ur last statement. Mba raise to power of 10
Lol abi o. We're worth more than how we appear now.
Kingsasian:
I love this
smiley smiley
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by mentorandfriend(m): 4:13pm On Sep 10, 2015
PURPOSE is greater than School Certificate.
Unleash the power of your CALLING.
I have a very senior female colleague of mine, a medical doctor who is now into fashion and designing,
and co-runs a fashion school with her elder sister who got trained in fashion designing in UK after her LLB and Law school in Nigeria.
Certificate is so overated.
Thank God I do not overate my certificate and underate my writing skills and compelling, motivational, vocal nature.
It has enabled me climb some platforms I wouldnt have climbed as a medical doctor.
From Secondary Schools to Campus fellowships,
Student Unions, Faculties, Youth organisations, and recently, churches and business cooporations.
It has fetched me a few side bucks too. Not much though.
I find fulfilment in it.
And I'm still growing.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Olsoo(m): 4:22pm On Sep 10, 2015
AgapeCharis:
Dang! Right on spot. I felt like I was reading from someone that had access to see my thoughts.

I once heard a friend talking with someone one day when she made mention of a restaurant she used to work with around Ikeja. She was working with the chocolate and ice cream section and she said they (chocolate and ice cream section) make up to 5 million naira daily. Of course, that's just one of the many outlets they have in Lagos.

Someone once said; work hard at your job and you'll earn a living. Work hard on yourself and earn yourself a fortune.

I can't get paid just 12 times in 365 days! Mba

I doff my hat for you bro.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 4:42pm On Sep 10, 2015
yusufobinna1:
I love this and I mean it, I work presently as a contract staff in a bank but I guess this is d right time to opt out,I have an idea that can fetch me far more than am receiving now and I think I ll have to give myself quick notice on the job.


bro, before you opt out, gather enough capital, or start realizing the ideas you have even as a contract staff.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by bawz012(m): 4:58pm On Sep 10, 2015
one of d reasons y i chose dis course ...
ARCHITECTURE baybeee!.... If ah hear say i find work after grad...
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by baba11(m): 5:02pm On Sep 10, 2015
majekdom2:
how many business yield a profit of 350k in a month and yes, how much is the capital worth?
If you're ready to pay for consultancy fee,I'll tell you...
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 5:15pm On Sep 10, 2015
Our society has gone down so bad that everything I mean EVERYTHING grin now depends on MONEY.
At the end of my IT my boss asked me a question. he asked: "In summary, what have u learnt throughout this period"?
I answered: "I have learnt to be flexible in identifying the needs of people and solving them". He was surprised. He shook my hand and "blessed" me.
....that's the Genesis of nairaland
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by zinosleek(m): 5:20pm On Sep 10, 2015
check my signature on why getting a degree is no longer secure to get a job. interesting read
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 5:39pm On Sep 10, 2015
baba11:

If you're ready to pay for consultancy fee,I'll tell you...
look elsewhere... I ll give you a better consultation at no price.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by armadeo(m): 5:39pm On Sep 10, 2015
histemple:
You have just made the right decision. Most people erroneously think that, money is their constraints, but it's actually IDEAS.


Many have good ideas but no money to back themselves. When they finally get sponsors they get kicked to the curb and see someone else reap of thief brain work.

I know a few examples.



That being said our youths of today have no inkling of hard work and most of all perseverance. If you must work for free. Get a Han of the job and your cv is growing instead of sitting idle at home.

But how many people have the luxury.? Many are already being depended on.


Let's think and grow rich. For example I was involved in a business some years ago and dropped out due to irofit issues and finance. Believe me we who were involved are regretting now as that same issue is making millions for someone else.

I have learnt my lesson. I may have to wait 20years to reap the reward but I will wait.

Reminds me of a man who came to my church and spoke of how he quit a well paying job over 30years ago. Everyone told him he was mad but he stuck to his guns now thosenpeple he left behind are coming to him begging for jobs in jus own company.

Perseverance one day your name would ring.
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by ahmedzak46: 5:52pm On Sep 10, 2015
Summary of my long story.......I have decided, no more job tests, no more unsolicited cv submissions, and don't mistake me, I don't despise salary jobs, I'll gladly accept to grow working for someone else, but am no longer going to beg for it. I join my voice to that of many young and knowledgeable young people out there to ask......hw can with all my numeracy, all my computer skills, all my analytical skills, good command of English, I am to be put through scorn in the name of recruitment and I have to be grateful if I get one at last?

I have decided to explore my inner self, does it mean with all I know I can't solve any of the problems I join every other person to complain about everyday? There must be something I can do to make some cash and invest same into acquiring some real hands on technical skills, which has always been my passion, while relying totally on God, the giver of all things.

It is time for us to explore our talent.

Good bless us all
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by histemple: 5:53pm On Sep 10, 2015
armadeo:



Many have good ideas but no money to back themselves. When they finally get sponsors they get kicked to the curb and see someone else reap of thief brain work.

I know a few examples.



That being said our youths of today have no inkling of hard work and most of all perseverance. If you must work for free. Get a Han of the job and your cv is growing instead of sitting idle at home.

But how many people have the luxury.? Many are already being depended on.


Let's think and grow rich. For example I was involved in a business some years ago and dropped out due to irofit issues and finance. Believe me we who were involved are regretting now as that same issue is making millions for someone else.

I have learnt my lesson. I may have to wait 20years to reap the reward but I will wait.

Reminds me of a man who came to my church and spoke of how he quit a well paying job over 30years ago. Everyone told him he was mad but he stuck to his guns now thosenpeple he left behind are coming to him begging for jobs in jus own company.

Perseverance one day your name would ring.



After reading your submission, I must confess that you are one of the few ambitious and creative people this generation is blessed to have.

While I sincerely share your frustrations and the nail-biting experience of watching someone reap the benefits of your ideas while you are relegated to the background, I must not fail to tell you that, it is not enough to have great ideas.

You must also know how to manage your ideas and strategies. You don't expose everthing you know just because you need empowerment from a bank or a certain rich man.

You can't sell your ideas to someone else and expect to still be relevant when the ideas was the only thing you have got------it's a common principle in business and a law of power.

I once read the story of a coach who taught his trainee "all" the powerful techniques to outwit any opponent. The now powerful trainee, thinking that he has learnt everything, challenged his coach to a contest in his quest to become the master of ALL.

On the day of the contest, the master simply used the only trick he reserved to defeat his trainee.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Nobody: 5:55pm On Sep 10, 2015
engrkenny:


I think I perfectly understand your viewpoint, but I must say you were not patient enough to read down the post, you ended up mixing up what I wrote. Am not an entrepreneurship activist, like you made it appear, neither am I oblivious of all the hurdles against surviving in the business world.
My post only came along after reflecting on a previous week's events, having read through the other post by dearpreye. If you must know, my journey into entrepreneurship didn't start today, long story, but that's not what I wish to discuss here anyway.
Post is meant to be a support to the call for change in mentality which the other post advocated for.
Not like I didn't learn from the points you raised, your points are well taken.


Edited

As for my dream job, you don't wanna hear it. The loftiness would make you laugh.
to cut the long story short.... every employee wishes he is the MD or the business owner. Sadly, not all have got the talent to be owners. I dont bring religion into issues like this but even Jacob served laban for years and prayed for wisdom. The force that pushes successful businessmen goes beyond the force that wishes them out of poverty, frustration or misfortune or outta their present state. It's a force to be remembered, to make a name. Ask even a gate keeper or a driver, he has searched his innerself and wishes to become a BOSS someday. You have not landed the dream job because there is something wrong you are doing and that's " begging for one " as you put in your earlier post. Pls take your time to listen and see african voices on CNN. U ll understand my points better.

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Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by Xtopher123(m): 6:17pm On Sep 10, 2015
I've made up my mind right from day one to own an establishment of my own

In the country, it's now who you know that give you Better jobs, I can't wait for government employment nor recruitment anymore
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by shollyboy2: 7:27pm On Sep 10, 2015
3years ago when i read on the news and one of the Minister said yearly 1.8million undergraduate are injected into the labor Market... from that day onward.. i told myself.. i aint ready to job hunt, and aint ready to work like an elephant for any company and being paid like a snail.... so my mentality changed........
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by menxer: 7:50pm On Sep 10, 2015
in all thy getting get understanding of how the world works, then only then can you maximize your certificate grin

@OP, you are scorned so that you can come to the realization that "the job is not to first class B.Sc. degree holders" grin

thank God you have seen the light...
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by engrshakespeare: 8:38pm On Sep 10, 2015
AgapeCharis:
Dang! Right on spot. I felt like I was reading from someone that had access to see my thoughts.

I once heard a friend talking with someone one day when she made mention of a restaurant she used to work with around Ikeja. She was working with the chocolate and ice cream section and she said they (chocolate and ice cream section) make up to 5 million naira daily. Of course, that's just one of the many outlets they have in Lagos.

Someone once said; work hard at your job and you'll earn a living. Work hard on yourself and earn yourself a fortune.

I can't get paid just 12 times in 365 days! Mba

Its not d number of times u get paid, its how much
Re: Rejoinder To When A University Degree No Longer Guarantees A Job by darmilolah(m): 8:40pm On Sep 10, 2015
engrkenny:
I have been shying away from posting a reply on here since the topic surfaced earlier today, having somewhat found myself at this same crossroad since passing out of nysc two months ago, I didn't feel worthy to claim to have answers to the concerns raised by those two brothers. Albeit, mine tends to be a matter of ambivalence at the moment, wouldn't want to talk about myself here tho.

My two pence... True life story...

Last two days, I found myself inside a klimanjaro fast food, after a hot and usually exhaustive aptitude test somewhere in the southern part of the country, trying to cool off. Somewhere on the south wall of the restaurant had a board hanging, with a caption "OUR STORY" a short write up about how the klimanjaro most of us used to impress babes those days back in school was a brainchild of a few young Nigerians and bla bla, I bent down and asked myself, so why spend close to 5k on transport and almost sustained a hip dislocation on terrible roads just to sit for another frustration in the guise of a recruitment test? Coincidentally just this same week a cousin of mine quit her IT job at a local fast food place, her reason....stress, guess what, she works in the account section, on probing further she revealed this people make a subtle 900k a day, and it's just one of their many outlets, I smiled and told her she wouldn't understand, she's still in school and would definitely get cash for all her needs including hairdo by September.

Summary of my long story.......I have decided, no more job tests, no more unsolicited cv submissions, and don't mistake me, I don't despise salary jobs, I'll gladly accept to grow working for someone else, but am no longer going to beg for it. I join my voice to that of many young and knowledgeable young people out there to ask......hw can with all my numeracy, all my computer skills, all my analytical skills, good command of English, I am to be put through scorn in the name of recruitment and I have to be grateful if I get one at last?

I have decided to explore my inner self, does it mean with all I know I can't solve any of the problems I join every other person to complain about everyday? There must be something I can do to make some cash and invest same into acquiring some real hands on technical skills, which has always been my passion, while relying totally on God, the giver of all things.

Any like minded youngsters should start developing same mentality too, no matter how difficult that seems. God bless us all.

.

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