In Benin Kingdom, Edo State, nobody dares the Oba. In fact, for the Binis, the Oba is next to God, his words are laws and any attempt to question his authority is termed a taboo. What is more, whoever is the guilty party does not go scot-free.

However, there is tension in the ancient Kingdom currently following the pronouncement by a chieftain of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, Chief Rich Arisco Osemwingie, that he is now the Ogiamien of Benin Kingdom without the authority of the Oba.

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I can smell death. No one plays with the Oba and goes free.

There is no war in Benin Kingdom. The usurper to the Head of the Ogiamien House has been put in his place. His wealth has not saved him from agelong Benin tradition. He should also be investigated for the whereabouts of the real Ogiamien for so long. Not saying that he is responsible for the disappearance but appointing himself as the Head of the Ogiamien family due to the vacuum thus created should be taken into consideration.

^ their palace was the only one left standing in 1897?

tpiander:
^ their palace was the only one left standing in 1897?

So the legend say. The family is without a doubt, one of the oldest known families in this part of Nigeria and they have always lived at the same ancestral compound even before the end of the Ogiso dynasty.
In the late seventies or early eighties, a mere boy,barely a teenager, became the head of the family due to primogeniture system practiced by the Binis. He has however been missing for over a decade and no one has been able to trace, sight or hear from him ever since. His disappearance resulted in a vacuum as he does not have a son to take over after him. In any case, he is deemed alive by the Palace and no EDAYI ( regent) has been appointed. The PDP money-miss-road attempted to take advantage of the situation. There are however certain things that money cannot buy you in Benin Kingdom.

how did the teenager/preteen become the head of the family?

what happened to the previous Ogiamen?

tpiander:
how did the teenager/preteen become the head of the family?

what happened to the previous Ogiamen?

Primogeniture, Tpia. His father, the Ogiamien ,died and as the oldest son, he became the Ogiamien.
In Benin tradition, you cannot be made a chief if your father is alive as it is unnatural for a father to pay obeisance to his son.
In places without an ENOGIE ( DUKE)the oldest man and citizen from there becomes the leader known as ODIONWERE (ELDER ) and constitutes a council of men,and in some cases, women, to help him govern. Of course, you cannot be older than your father to become one.
In a nutshell, most traditional titles in Biniland devolves on death of the previous holder.

In addition to the above, you do not have to have been BORN a Bini to become a chief. This especially applies to the class of chiefs called the EGHAEVBO n'ORE (TOWN CHIEFS) and Odionwere.

Bini culture always interesting. But una names sha.... Make I no injure my brain say I dey read Bini names o

How does the Oba appoint the Ogiamien? I thought they are independent from the Oba's power

macof:
How does the Oba appoint the Ogiamien? I thought they are independent from the Oba's power

The Oba of Benin does not, and cannot,appoint any person who is already traditionally IN LINE to a stool or headship of a family.
In the present case,the self proclaimed Ogiamien is a usurper and the Oba and his chiefs will not allow civil disorder in the society because of the unconstitionality of the process by which Mr.Arisco Osemwengie named himself Ogiamien. He does not even bear the name as a last name.
Though independent of the Palace of the Oba,an Ogiamien is still required to 'legitimize ' the Obaship in a mock battle and treaty.

The title of this thread is incongruous.

bokohalal:

The Oba of Benin does not, and cannot,appoint any person who is already traditionally IN LINE to a stool or headship of a family.
In the present case,the self proclaimed Ogiamien is a usurper and the Oba and his chiefs will not allow civil disorder in the society because of the unconstitionality of the process by which Mr.Arisco Osemwengie named himself Ogiamien. He does not even bear the name as a last name.

I see

Though independent of the Palace of the Oba,an Ogiamien is still required to 'legitimize ' the Obaship in a mock battle and treaty.

Yeah that's what I was talking about

bokohalal:


So the legend say. The family is without a doubt, one of the oldest known families in this part of Nigeria and they have always lived at the same ancestral compound even before the end of the Ogiso dynasty.
In the late seventies or early eighties, a mere boy,barely a teenager, became the head of the family due to primogeniture system practiced by the Binis. He has however been missing for over a decade and no one has been able to trace, sight or hear from him ever since. His disappearance resulted in a vacuum as he does not have a son to take over after him. In any case, he is deemed alive by the Palace and no EDAYI ( regent) has been appointed. The PDP money-miss-road attempted to take advantage of the situation. There are however certain things that money cannot buy you in Benin Kingdom.

. The family appointed him the new Ogiamien. I beg you people don't play politics with my family name. Since we can't find Osarobo we crowned a new king. If you know where Osarobo is bring him out. is it by force to be APC.

osemwengie1:
. The family appointed him the new Ogiamien. I beg you people don't play politics with my family name. Since we can't find Osarobo we crowned a new king. If you know where Osarobo is bring him out. is it by force to be APC.

Osemwengie, vbo logho? Everything is politics to you? Is he the only member of Ogiamien family? Would you have supported him if he was a member of APC? If your answer is NO, it goes to show that you know he doesn't deserve to be the Ogiamien.

bokohalal:

Osemwengie, vbo logho? Everything is politics to you? Is he the only member of Ogiamien family? Would you have supported him if he was a member of APC? If your answer is NO, it goes to show that you know he doesn't deserve to be the Ogiamien.

. Don't talk about what you don't know. Osemwengie was part of those that followed Osarobo as Ogiamien army during the mock battle with Oba Erediawa. The disappearance of Osarobo is in the hands of the late Erediawa. The family has waited for more than 17 years how long do you want us to wait. The truth is Osarobo ancestors brought disgrace to Ogiamien family. They are the only once that bear Obazee, Igbineweka e.t.c. A name that spite the Ogiamien title. as such the family decided to shift the throne to another line what is wrong with it. He was crowned by Ogiamien chiefs . The fact that he's PDP has nothing to do with it. He's a true son of Ogiamien and as the new head the owner of benin Kingdom pending when it will be divided by a new treaty with Eheneden which the Oba's palace are trying to avoid. If this is the case, the Oba has to leave benin coz he is a foreigner.The land belongs to Ogiamien. The only family member not in support of this are Osarobo siblings. In actual fact they are not Ogiamien coz there's dispute about the birth of their father (Obazee ) whose pregnancy was just 7 months. This shows the mum was pregnant before Ogiamien married her. For your information the mum was given to Ogiamien as a gift by Oba Akenzua.

lot of salacious "information" here.


what does this mean btw:

the owner of benin Kingdom pending when it will be divided

divided as how?

tpiander:
lot of salacious "information" here.


what does this mean btw:



divided as how?

I guess Ogiamien sells the greater part of Benin Kingdom to the current Oba and keeps the rest to himself

osemwengie1, bokohalal.

Is it possible that the controversy with Ogiamien is responsible for the palace's silence on the health of the Oba?(people think him dead) Seeing as nobody can succeed the Oba without the presence of Ogiamien

macof:
osemwengie1, bokohalal.

Is it possible that the controversy with Ogiamien is responsible for the palace's silence on the health of the Oba?(people think him dead) Seeing as nobody can succeed the Oba without the presence of Ogiamien

. The silence of the health of the Oba is normal practice. The problem at the Oba palace is as a result of issues with who to succeed the late obah. However it seems Eheneden has been choosing.

macof:


I guess Ogiamien sells the greater part of Benin Kingdom to the current Oba and keeps the rest to himself

. The Ogiamien never accepted the Oba, the Binis in order to avoid war btw the Oba and Ogiamien ordered the Ogiamien to sell part of bini to the Oba. The Ogiamien agreed but insist before the coronation of a new Oba he must re purchase the land from Ogiamien. that's the treaty. so the land was divided btw the Ogiamien controlled part of benin which is known as Utantan and the part the Ogiamien leased to the Oba. Eheneden must repurchase the land from Ogiamien. This is usually done tru a mock battle btw Ogiamien and the Oba to be. The Oba to be den present Ogiamien with gift amongst whom are slaves, a traditional stool e.t.c. The major

This was the point the missing Ogiamien (Osarobo Okunghae) the small boy in the pic leased some part of benin to the late Oba Erediawa. So Eheneden has to do same with Arisco Osemwengie Ogiamien.

osemwengie1:
. Don't talk about what you don't know. Osemwengie was part of those that followed Osarobo as Ogiamien army during the mock battle with Oba Erediawa. The disappearance of Osarobo is in the hands of the late Erediawa. The family has waited for more than 17 years how long do you want us to wait. The truth is Osarobo ancestors brought disgrace to Ogiamien family. They are the only once that bear Obazee, Igbineweka e.t.c. A name that spite the Ogiamien title. as such the family decided to shift the throne to another line what is wrong with it. He was crowned by Ogiamien chiefs . The fact that he's PDP has nothing to do with it. He's a true son of Ogiamien and as the new head the owner of benin Kingdom pending when it will be divided by a new treaty with Eheneden which the Oba's palace are trying to avoid. If this is the case, the Oba has to leave benin coz he is a foreigner.The land belongs to Ogiamien. The only family member not in support of this are Osarobo siblings. In actual fact they are not Ogiamien coz there's dispute about the birth of their father (Obazee ) whose pregnancy was just 7 months. This shows the mum was pregnant before Ogiamien married her. For your information the mum was given to Ogiamien as a gift by Oba Akenzua.

If you are to be believed, you are at least sixty years old.
To the best of my knowledge of Benin history, a certain Evian, the progenitor of the Ogiamiens, was appointed by the elders of Igodomigodo to administer the Kingdom in the absence of anyone from Ogiso Family taking over after Owodo. This honour was bestowed on him because he had been able to kill a monster that used to terrorize market people at Agbado market. (The name AGBADO is from the Edo "AGBADO AIGBADE" WE GO TRADE TOGETHER BUT DO NOT COME OUT TOGETHER as the monster used to come devour people every market day.)
Evian died and his son decided to succeed his father and the Edos protested that he was not a blueblood and that led to the search for Ekaladerhan which ultimately led to Oranmiyan.

It is obvious that the Edos never regarded the Evian Family and they were never really able to consolidate power when they had it.
Even the GRUNDNORM theory, when applied to Benin Kingdom, will hold that there came a new administration that was able to carry out all the functions of a government and became, in law and in fact (DE JURE et DE FACTO) the recognized and existing power ,in the Kingdom: and that is the EWEKA DYNASTY, of which yours truly, is a proud member
That is the problem that the Ogiamiens face. As the state attorney general has said ,this is nothing short of a traditional "coup d'etat ." The Oba is backed by law and the people,and I doubt if you ,Osemwengie, want to become an OGHION OBA.

osemwengie1:
. The silence of the health of the Oba is normal practice. The problem at the Oba palace is as a result of issues with who to succeed the late obah. However it seems Eheneden has been choosing.

I doubt if you are truly a Bini.
Eheneden has been HEIR APPARENT since he was born!

bokohalal:

I doubt if you are truly a Bini.
Eheneden has been HEIR APPARENT since he was born!

.You know nothing really. Where you aware the kingmakers rejected Eheneden. I don't need to argue with you, coz you know nothing

http://www.edo-nation.net/naiwu1.htm Ogiamien owns benin Kingdom. The Oba is a foreigner

osemwengie1:
.You know nothing really. Where you aware the kingmakers rejected Eheneden. I don't need to argue with you, coz you know nothing

Who was in contention? For your information ,EGIA SE GBERE (heredity) is applied same way in all families that are entitled to it,including the monarchy and the Ogiamien,in Benin Kingdom. The eldest surviving son inherits his late father's office. Insanity is not even a bar to the rule.

osemwengie1:
http://www.edo-nation.net/naiwu1.htm Ogiamien owns benin Kingdom. The Oba is a foreigner

I know my history. Onaiwu Osahon just confirmed my earlier comment. You have not disproved anything that I put up there. I wonder to what purpose your link has served.

The UZAMA N'IHINRON are not kingmakers in the sense that it is used by outsiders. Who submitted application for Obaship of Benin Kingdom to them?

bokohalal:

I know my history. Onaiwu Osahon just confirmed my earlier comment. You have not disproved anything that I put up there. I wonder to what purpose your link has served.

. It also confirmed my point that Ogiamien is the owner of the entire bini land and that the Ogiamien leased some part to the Oba.