OVI75:
Op Wsh one do you realy want us to be proud of? Voodooo or polygamy.

ifeness:


He wants you to be proud of being yourself. That shouldn't be too hard,should it?

OVI75:
Op Wsh one do you realy want us to be proud of? Voodooo or polygamy.

Solomon had 1000wives, i don't see you complaining about that. In fact you think him a wise man.

What has traditional religion or culture got to do with Voodoo and Polygamy. .

plaetton:
While addressing groups of people of South American descent in Phillidelphia the other day, the Pope urged them to always be proud of their cultures, heritage and identity,.. And always respect and defend it.

My big questions are :
Does it apply to Africans as well?

Aside from, perhaps, Beloved Desmond Tutu, How many other African priests, Catholic or other, can and will say the same to his African brothers and sisters?

italo:


The Catholic Church has always taught us to respect our culture, especially what is good about it.

Pope Francis didn't teach something new to us.

plaetton:
While addressing groups of people of South American descent in Phillidelphia the other day, the Pope urged them to always be proud of their cultures, heritage and identity,.. And always respect and defend it.
My big questions are :
Does it apply to Africans as well?
Aside from, perhaps, Beloved Desmond Tutu, How many other African priests, Catholic or other, can and will say the same to his African brothers and sisters?

hahn:


Really? Since Christianity came in to Africa, we have all but abandoned our own culture. Christianity in no way preaches about putting your culture first.

italo:


Spot the difference.

What you're talking about is not the topic of discussion.

You can open another thread.

plaetton:

Does it apply to Africans as well?

italo:
@plaetton, hahn and ifeness...

Please read about the Catholic view of the various indigenous cultures:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1988_fede-inculturazione_en.html

Pope Francis taught nothing new.

He told them to hold on to what is good in their culture.

italo:
@plaetton, hahn and ifeness...

Please read about the Catholic view of the various indigenous cultures:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_1988_fede-inculturazione_en.html

Pope Francis taught nothing new.

He told them to hold on to what is good in their culture.

hahn:




No, it doesn't.

Christianity has in no way assisted in enabling us respect and defend our culture. Christians are actually thought to ignore their culture and adopt the culture of Israel

ifeness:


Give me examples of what is good in your culture you are holding unto?

johnydon22:


Italo is arguing for catholicism not for the whole Christiandom.

In radical christianity it a normal thing to burn a shrine used by other people for their own worship but if they are accorded the same favour they play the victims card and say they are being persecuted.

Why would you have the right to burn some else's place of worship because you think yours is better..

Christianity and Islam in African robbed Africans of their culture and norms, robbed africa of their heritage.
An hausa man reverse arab far more than the land of Africa and a christian revere Isreali culture, myth and societal norm more than that of africa.

It is a pitiable state of abandonment of one's self in the delusion of find better, you can only be lost in the void of other people's belief and culture...

ifeness:

Give me examples of what is good in your culture you are holding unto?

hahn:


Lol.

ifeness:


Starting from his name,he is obviously not proud to be African

hahn:


Who are you referring to?

hahn:


Nice.



What answer do you have to this guy's question?

johnydon22:
Most people due to the influences of Christianity demonizes masquerades.

I hold these to be one of the most important aspect of our culture that should be enjoyed not demonized or chastised.

our language, food and folklores. I still have most of the igbo folklores i know in my head and i intend to tell my children these tales but i will not tell it to them as truth they will just like me recognize these to be a beautiful and eloquent art our people in terms of poetic constructs ..

ifeness:


Italo

ifeness:


Give me examples of what is good in your culture you are holding unto?

ifeness:


Starting from his name,he is obviously not proud to be African

hahn:




No, it doesn't.

Christianity has in no way assisted in enabling us respect and defend our culture. Christians are actually thought to ignore their culture and adopt the culture of Israel

italo:


"Italo" is short for my Edo name "Italome."

Avoid ignorant assumptions.

Now tell me if Ifeness, Plaetton, Hahn, Johnydon22, etc are African names...since that is how you were taught to know who is proud to be African or not.

hahn:


I don't believe he needs to tells us that. If Christianity hadn't come and replaced our beliefs with theirs there would be no need for him to point out something that obvious. When the first Christians came to Africa, they did everything they could to replace our beliefs with theirs.

italo:


The Catholic Church has always taught us to respect our culture, especially what is good about it.

ifeness:


That's true. There is beauty in African arts but unfortunately rendered demonic by the same Pope and xtian association. All you can see on TV is hungry Africans begging for food which is unfair. Someone is trying hard to make our cultures and image less attractive. Hence we have victims like italo shunning anything Pro-African.

atlwireles:
Italo, I have to thank you for the great work you do on this forum. God bless you.