Ben Carson: Obama 'Would've Had a Seizure' If Oregon Gunman Killed Muslims
By Bill Hoffmann | Wednesday, 07 Oct 2015 11:58 AM

Dr. Ben Carson says President Barack Obama would have suffered a “seizure” if the gunman who targeted Christians as he shot up an Oregon college last week had singled out Muslims instead.

"He would've had a seizure over it," Carson told Steve Malzberg in an exclusive interview that aired Tuesday on Newmax TV.

"Remember, he's been very reticent to mention Christians in the Middle East who are being massacred as well.

"I'm not sure why he has so much trouble actually articulating the words. It does make you wonder a little bit."

In the Oregon tragedy, Chris Harper-Mercer, 26, reportedly asked his victims if they were Christians before executing his English professor and eight students at Umpqua Community College in rural Roseburg.

On Tuesday, Carson told Fox News' "Fox & Friends" program he'd likely have stood up to the coldblooded killer.

"Not only would I probably not cooperate with him, I would not just stand there and let him shoot me. I would say 'Hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me but he can't get us all,'" Carson said.

Speaking with Malzberg on Newsmax TV, Carson — in second place behind Donald Trump in several national GOP presidential polls — said he believes Americans are aware Obama has not said much about the persecution of Christians.

“I'm not exactly sure how he thinks that people aren't noticing this but the important thing once again is we don't have to deal with him that much longer hopefully,” Carson said.

“If we can manage to get through this and begin to enact some logical solutions, we can come out of this pretty quickly."
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Carson — author of "A More Perfect Union: What We the People Can Do to Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties," written with his wife Candy and published by Sentinel — said while the president wants more gun laws, he hasn’t come up anything specific.

"Because there isn't [one]. This is not an issue of the gun. This is an issue of the gunman. We need to start looking at what are the characteristics of these people," Carson said.
"We can probably, if we sit down and study this thing scientifically, begin to identify the kinds of personalities that are likely to be involved in this and we can begin to end it being early.

"Not only to save the lives of masses of people but of those individuals as well."
Carson, a retired paediatric neurosurgeon who has never run for office, said his campaign for the Republican presidential nomination has been "quite an adventure."

"It's not totally surprising in the sense that all my life I've had people saying 'you can't do this. This is impossible.' I don't even get started until I hear those words," he said.

And the fact he is not a politician in the traditional sense is okay, he believes.

“Doctors, scientists, engineers really have been trained to make decisions based on evidence as opposed to ideology," Carson said.

"If there's anything we need right now is some evidence-based decision-making."

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skullbaba:
Ben carson is an hyprocrite, though he might be the greatest in his profession but his prejudice and pro religion stance will hurt him. Attacking muslims to get conservative christian vote will hurt in in getting the liberal vote who are the majority. To my believe Obama is a pacifist but because of the skewd america politics and foreign mission he is seen as a muslim apologist. But first is the bushs muslim apologist ?, the bush senior is a friend of osama senior and their great grand father is a nazist, everything is point to interest and to carson ' the united state constitution is not in any sense base on chrsitianity' john adams former us president

yanabasee:


This is matured politics and oppositioning...
Lai Mohamed would have come up with awful criticism and propaganda or a defensive lies.... Meaningless political gaming!

CSTR2:


Who told you this nonsense?
One of the things a would-be american president need to win an election is to show toughness on radical islam and middle-eastern countries sponsoring radical islam.
The US is majority christian.
The one thing that unites them is a common fear of radical islam which is not very different from mainstream islam as far as americans are concerned.

skullbaba:


Ben carson is an hyprocrite, though he might be the greatest in his profession but his prejudice and pro religion stance will hurt him. Attacking muslims to get conservative christian vote will hurt in in getting the liberal vote who are the majority. To my believe Obama is a pacifist but because of the skewd america politics and foreign mission he is seen as a muslim apologist. But first is the bushs muslim apologist ?, the bush senior is a friend of osama senior and their great grand father is a nazist, everything is point to interest and to carson ' the united state constitution is not in any sense base on chrsitianity' john adams former us president

CSTR2:
Who told you this nonsense?
One of the things a would-be american president need to win an election is to show toughness on radical islam and middle-eastern countries sponsoring radical islam.
The US is majority christian.
The one thing that unites them is a common fear of radical islam which is not very different from mainstream islam as far as americans are concerned.

OLAADEGBU:


Why would you say that the US constitution was not influenced by the Bible? Carson has seen financial contribution to his campaign increased since he made his feelings known about a Muslim President.

skullbaba:
you people don't understand politics. The Bush,the house of saud, osama are friends. Everybody is now talking about the illegal invasion of iraq and even blair has apologised to the iraqis, and what is christianity in promoting violence, gay, abortions,. Obama is HATED for being a pacifist he ended two wars, Carson is trying to reach out to conservatives who are anti abortionist and anti gay marriage. Politicis is very dangerous, it whrere u sacrifice your faith, family for power

skullbaba:


you people don't understand politics. The Bush,the house of saud, osama are friends. Everybody is now talking about the illegal invasion of iraq and even blair has apologised to the iraqis, and what is christianity in promoting violence, gay, abortions,. Obama is HATED for being a pacifist he ended two wars, Carson is trying to reach out to conservatives who are anti abortionist and anti gay marriage. Politicis is very dangerous, it whrere u sacrifice your faith, family for power

skullbaba:


the early americans that came from europe has their backgroung in christianity that why the first thing they do is SEPARATING THE STATE FROM THE. CHURCH. The christians has done it why can't the muslims. And on finance, the ruplicans always get more finance and media coverage than democrate. There just two democrat bernie saunders who is anti-WALL STREET, anti cooperation, he is against coporal electoral finance 2. Hillary clinton who is. Also pro choice and ant I cooporation. BUT all the repulblican candidate get lot of media coverage cos of their war mongering and slavey to israel . It was only donald trump tahta support Russia against war with ISIS infact he said he woild left russia alone to clean the mess, RUBIO was anti IRAN deal when almost all analyst, american jewish council even support the deal, Ben carson is a religionist who is also reject the idea of evolution the basis of america science culture. And mind you there is nothing a politician can't say to get your vote. OBAMA is a frend/foe to none

OLAADEGBU:


Did you mean Obama ended two wars or exacerbated it?

OLAADEGBU:


The fact is that Obama is an Islamic apologist bent on destroying America from within.

skullbaba:


How did he make it worse ? The Bush administration invaded Iraq on false pretense and ddisband the iraqi army, all this lead to the rise of ISIS, Obama is trying to pull america troops out of iraq just like the british did, what remains is for US to say SORRY just like the UK, the only scholar in the US that came out without fear was choam chomsky now everyone is praising him, the Afghanistan war is complicaated because it is the only country that grows Opium on a large scale and the taliban who is in power destroy large scale of opium field planted by big US corporations couple with the 911 'conspiration'. Believe me the only war place Obama Bleep up is the case of Libya. This is a man that is trying to close Guatnamo bay. Obama is hated on many reasons and the major reason is his skin color and more so a democrat, go and listen to the republican candidates you will see they are war-mongers, racist. And on the issue of religion America is NoT anti-islam, American and britain are a very good friend of the house of saud that rules saudi arabia, that is why american and britain will support them even with their human right record and on the issue of Israel, OBAMA is hated beacause he told isreal the truth that discussion is the only solution to the israel-palestine conflict and that israel should go back to the 1947 accord. ISrael knows she can't go back because she has violet the accord by grabbing 7/10 of the palestine land in that accord that was drawn by a US/UK back accord. The ruplican want war like the vietnam war, iraq war, korean war, etc but ObAMa is not yielding that is why they are calling him a muslim apologist. Note during the bombing of world trade center Bush snr and Osama snr are busing in a business meeting. You can google more on the 911 coacy and you will love Obama more for taking america out of war

OLAADEGBU:


If you are current with the state of affairs in Afghanistan you will realise that ISIS are now converging and laying siege on their boarders ready to attack. One of the Guantanamo bay prisoners that was let loose has now gone back to join ISIS. The American soldier exchanged for some terrorists all proves that Obama is a Muslim apologist.

skullbaba:


if. I talk from now to tomorrow if you don't open your heart to question your prejudice there is nothing I can do or say to change things. Let me ask you some questions the united state is a big friend of the saudi ruling house, she sold to her billions of weapon she can't use but even to terrorise her people, the united state is a friend of Shah of iran before the ayatollah led cultural revolution, the united state help senior ASsad to power, they help the taliban to power against the soviest invasion of afghanistan, they help ghadaffi to power, they help hosni mubarak to power, sadam hussein to power. The US policy in the middle east is not consistent, thehelp all these dictators to power but once they don't need them they discard them, thes dictators has differnt group they are finanacing couple with diffent group the US is sponsoring and groups waiting for rooms to explode, all these group explose together when ghadaffi,iraq, syria broke down, that is whay we have al nusra, Isis etc infact al qaeda and al shabab are small boys to these groups. Lack of consisytent US policy in middle east is what gave the rise to this agent of shaytan/devil, look at libya no ruler but militias, same to iraq, when all these militias are fighting the assad army they are given air cover by israi and us airforce. Mind u, assad a democratic elected president although the election is rigged. According to the Russians, the united states should tell them which militia is a moderate group so they won't bomb them. Now back to Obama religion, the issue of obama religgion and skin color was raised by FOX new and people trump. Did u think Obama only can act uniterally to favor the muslim hout the consent of the house and his cabinet which are white and supremacist. Go and see or google the best customers of us and uk weapons and u will see it is the middle east. The Leahy act was use not to sell weapon to Nigeria to fight BH but it useless when selling weapon to SAUDI govt. The saudi pilot are trained by israeli mossad. International politics is so dirty, infact you don't know who is friend and enemy and on the guatanamo detainee, what did you expect of somebody that was taken 10yrs ago and isolated from his people under all sort of inhumane condition and came back home and meet NO HOME ( his family killed and his home, town and country destroy) what did you expect ? I will advice those people should not be release into ANY community without some procedures cos they are damaged goods. Bro in international politics every issue should be treated diffently and very carefully. UK has plead for iraq invasion what is stopping the US, or is it obama again that invaded iraq, take this again, The OSAMA family has 56 HOUSES in the US and non was touch even 911. Look here US is a great country I like but sometimes they Bleep up.Tony Blair has finally said sorry for the Iraq War – and admitted he could be partly to blame for the rise of Islamic State.
The extraordinary confession by the former Prime Minister comes after 12 years in which he refused to apologise for the conflict.
Blair makes his dramatic ‘mea culpa’ during a TV interview about the ‘hell’ caused by his and George Bush’s decision to oust Saddam Hussein.

In the exchange, Blair repeatedly says sorry for his conduct and even refers to claims that the invasion was a war ‘crime’ – while denying he committed one.
Blair is asked bluntly in the CNN interview, to be broadcast today: ‘Was the Iraq War a mistake?’


He replies: ‘I apologise for the fact that the intelligence we received was wrong.
‘I also apologise for some of the mistakes in planning and, certainly, our mistake in our understanding of what would happen once you removed the regime.’
Challenged that the Iraq War was ‘the principal cause’ of the rise of Islamic State, he said: ‘I think there are elements of truth in that.

'Of course you can’t say those of us who removed Saddam in 2003 bear no responsibility for the situation in 2015.’
In the ‘trial by TV’, respected US political broadcaster Fareed Zakaria accuses him of being President Bush’s ‘poodle’ over the conflict. Blair’s confession comes a week after The Mail on Sunday published a bombshell White House memo revealing for the first time how Blair and Bush agreed a ‘deal in blood’ a year before the invasion.
A 2002 briefing note from US Secretary of State Colin Powell to the President showed Blair had secretly pledged to back the conflict – while telling MPs and British voters that he was seeking a diplomatic solution.

In his CNN interview, Blair candidly asks for forgiveness for his blunder in not realising ‘what would happen once you removed the regime’.
The admission makes a mockery of the statement in the Powell memo that Blair would ‘demonstrate [to Bush] that we have thought through “the day after” ’ – a reference to the consequences of invasion.
However, the bloody chaos in the region continues to this day. And in a separate development, former Labour Home Secretary David Blunkett has revealed that he challenged Blair before the war about avoiding chaos after Saddam’s downfall.

Lord Blunkett says Blair failed to give him such ‘reassurances’ – and instead placed blind faith in the two main ‘hawks’ in the US administration, Vice-President Dick Cheney and Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
Lord Blunkett also vented his fury that Sir John Chilcot, who is leading the long-delayed inquiry into the Iraq War, had failed to ask him to give evidence.

Given my front-row seat at these events, I am mystified Chilcot has not asked me to provide either oral or written evidence,’ Lord Blunkett told The Mail on Sunday.
‘I would have thought that over the six years the inquiry has been going on, Sir John would have found the time to ask the then-Home Secretary what he knew.’
Blair’s confession about the Iraq War and the rise of IS is in stark contrast to his repeated refusal to shoulder the blame for the conflict, or its long term consequences. In 2004, he told MPs: ‘I will not apologise for the conflict. I believe it was right.’
He stuck to his hard line in 2007, saying: ‘I don’t think we should be apologising at all for what we are doing in Iraq.’

Remarkably, Blair himself predicted how the apology U-turn he finally makes today would be reported.
In his 2010 memoirs, he explained why he had so far refused to say ‘yes’ when asked if he was sorry, because he knew it would prompt damaging headlines.
‘Answer “Yes” and I knew the outcome: “BLAIR APOLOGISES FOR WAR”, “AT LAST HE SAYS SORRY”. I can’t say sorry in words.’
His apology is bound to prompt claims that he is trying to head off the scathing criticism of his handling of the Iraq War expected to be included in Chilcot’s findings.
All the key figures, including Blair and other senior Labour politicians, are understood to have been given notice of the broad thrust of Chilcot’s verdict on them, expected to be made public next year.
As a master of public relations and media manipulation, Blair may have calculated that since Chilcot is likely to accuse him of major errors of judgment, it is better for him to volunteer an apology now, rather than be forced to do so if, as seems certain, Chilcot’s damning assessment gives him little choice. The former Prime Minister’s decision to make his apology in the US, as opposed to the UK, is also significant.
Far from presenting his apology in a harsh critical light, CNN interviewer Zakaria, a personal friend of Blair, showers praise on him for being the only interviewee in the programme who ‘took responsibility for Iraq’ on camera.

Most of the others involved in the show, senior US political and military figures, blamed each other.
The Colin Powell memo – which this newspaper found among declassified US State Department documents while searching through a cache of Hillary Clinton’s recently released emails – was written in March 2002, a week before Mr Blair met Mr Bush for a summit at his ranch in Crawford, Texas.
In our report, which made headlines around the world, we revealed that Powell had said Blair ‘will be with us’ should the US take military action in Iraq and that the ‘UK will follow our lead’.
Blair would handle ‘public affairs lines’ for persuading people that Saddam posed a real threat – in fact, after the war, it was discovered Blair’s claims following the Crawford summit about Iraq’s ‘weapons of mass destruction’ were false.
Lord Blunkett told The Mail on Sunday yesterday how he challenged Blair during Cabinet meetings prior to the war about the level of post-conflict planning for Iraq.
As one of Blair’s most loyal Ministers, Lord Blunkett said he repeatedly sought reassurances that the US had a coherent plan to govern Iraq after the fall of Saddam.
He added: ‘I did not receive that reassurance. Tony was not able to say what was going to happen when combat operations were over. He just decided to trust Cheney and Rumsfeld.
‘With the benefit of hindsight, we now know that they had decided to embark on the complete de-Ba’athification of Saddam’s Iraq by dismantling the entire Government infrastructure.
‘This led to the disintegration of any form of functioning government, creating a complete power vacuum. Terrorists infiltrated Iraq and stirred discontent.

‘I am not seeking to scapegoat Tony Blair; we were all collectively to blame for deluding ourselves into believing that we had much greater sway over Washington.’ Lord Blunkett echoed calls for Chilcot to release an interim copy of his findings immediately or ‘risk his entire exercise being entirely discredited’.
Significantly, in the CNN show, host Zakaria gives his own apology, telling viewers that he regrets his own initial support for the war.
He says he changed his mind after watching the post-war turmoil unfold and witnessing the bloody rise of IS. Viewers may draw the conclusion that Blair came to the same decision for the same reason.

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