Antiparticle:
While I can understand your frustration at non-theists' assertions that Noah's flood didn't exist, I don't follow your line of argument that it must be materially disproved before it can be considered implausible.

The story of the flood is implausible because Noah supposedly collected male and female of every species on the ark. There are millions of species of animals on earth, some microscopic and some extremely large. To be objective, do you really think Noah went around the earth to collect two of every of these millions of species?

Even with all the scientists in the world today, there are still millions of animal species that we haven't discovered. How is it possible for one man, Noah, to have collected male and female of millions of species on earth? This is such an extraordinarily enormous claim that is at best fishy (trying so hard to be objective here). This is why such a story is considered false unless proved or unless a credible rational argument is presented on its behalf.

As a result, the burden of proof is on those who claim that the flood actually happened, not on those who consider it mythical.

Chizzled06:
My favourite part of this story is the laughable claim that this is the invention and origin of rainbows.

Those prehistoric herdsmen who wrote this were clueless. But you really can't blame them.

It's modern day believers of this folklore, with all the access to information that they have, that have no excuse to remain ignorant.

Richirich713:


What is laughable here is the way u atheists misinterpreted the Bible.

No where does the bible ever say God created the Rainbow when he made his covenant with noah.

No where does the Bible say Noah gather animals grouped in species nor does the bible ever say Noah should gather microorganisms.

U people are just giving ur own interpretation instead of interpreting the Bible in the correct way.

Chizzled06:



You're blaming the wrong being here.

Your God had one chance to send out a divine text, to make all of mankind believe he exists. The best he could do was this. A mashed up compilation of books filled with numerous discrepancies and contradictions.

Then people like you claiming to be officially designated interpreters.

Truly laughable.

Richirich713:
Wrong again, mankind do believe God exists.

It's just u small group of people who don't.

Billions of people agree with me and billions of people disagree with u atheists.

Chizzled06:


Yes, a lot of people still believe in the concept of God, but a lot less of them take the bible seriously.

Even the Vatican, spiritual headquarters of the[b] vast majority of Christians[/b], have accepted that Evolution, the Big Bang Theory are true.

Open up your mind. Learn more about the world. Contrary to what they've fed you, knowledge will not kill you.

Richirich713:


I know that's a lie, The vast majority of Christians don't believe in evolution or the big bang theory.

And evens those few who do believe in the big bang also believe God cause the Big Bang.

Those few so called christians are the minority compared to the Billions of Christians who disagree with evolution and the big bang.

And I'm not just referring to christians, it's also Jews and Muslims and he many other religions that believe there is a God.

Chizzled06:


You misunderstood. I said the LEADERS of the sect of majority of Christians. ie. The Vatican has accepted those scientific theories as accurate.

You're allowed to disagree with anything you want to. You're allowed to ignore insurmountable evidence and choose to believe the theory of the origin of life as explained by prehistoric Jewish herdsmen. All your choice.

But you can't choose what is a fact. And facts remain true whether you choose to believe them or not.

johnydon22:


I agree with you, the greeks are unmatched in eloquence and imaginative constructiveness of colourful myths.

their proficiency in poetic literature and outstanding storylines is very wonderful.

I enjoy Egyptian myths too, Sumerian myths are well written too, i love the names Enkidu, Aridu, Humbaba, it almost sounds African..

African myths are wonderfully colourful too, imaginatively sound and morally useful too..

These myths are relics of the ancient world, they should be taught and enjoyed as myths and legends that they are not taught and believed as truth as many has been made to believe ...

Its quite sad seeing Africans who are ignorant of their own local legends and myths here dragging over foreign myths.. Jewish and Arabic mythology..

its just too sad... We are free from colonial masters but still attached to them psychological through their greatest weapon.. Murder of our own religion and replace it with theirs

sonmvayina:



you keep calling these stories myths...just who decides what is myth, facts or true history?

Chizzled06:
My favourite part of this story is the laughable claim that this is the invention and origin of rainbows.

Those prehistoric herdsmen who wrote this were clueless. But you really can't blame them.

It's modern day believers of this folklore, with all the access to information that they have, that have no excuse to remain ignorant.

hahn:
Of all the stories in the bible, the story of Noah and his ark has to be the most compelling and also the most probable to have left evidence. However, the ark has never been found despite the fact that it was big enough to contain all the animals in the world.

Christians, do you have any explanation for this?

PRINCEZUKO1:
lol, funny people, wanting some evidences of a 6000 year old event that involves wood that could decay in 100years for proof that the Bible is true.
Well, I don't need such an evidence cos I've seen with my own eyes...
Seen, that the consequences of evil is as the Bible says..
Seen, that the reward of good is as the Bible says..
Seen, that the values which it teaches actually helps those who live it the way its meant to be..
Seen, the powers which the Bible possesses are actually real and the most powerful that be, cos at the name of Jesus, there is always a witness of its potency.
Seen, that the prophecies which it gave milleniums ago about the current ages have actually come to play..

Its a pity if your philosophical minds would not allow you to grasp or acknowledge the Spiritual world, cos you're just like a 2 eyed man that'll still need glasses to see clearly...
I know that the Bible is True and I've seen its reality.

tpiander:



did you see any rainbows before then?

johnydon22:

Here help yourself

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/myth

sonmvayina:


i know the meaning of the word, my question is who decides the stories that are myths and which story is fact and which story is true history

johnydon22:


Am not sure you know the meaning of that word because you wouldn't have repeated this same question .

A traditional, typically ancient story dealing with supernatural beings,ancestors, or heroes that serves as a fundamental type in the worldview of
a people, as by explaining aspects of the natural world or delineating the
psychology, customs, or ideals of society:


a story about superhuman beings of an earlier age taken by preliterate
society to be a true account, usually of how natural phenomena, social
customs, etc, came into existence

If you are asking about modern historical authentication then you talk about archeological finds, external records, authenticated artifacts, personal records etc. . You might as well simply go look up modern deduction of historically proven facts...

Richirich713:

Noah was not told to collect pairs of "millions of species". He was told to take two or seven of every KIND of animal on the earth.
U can't just assume "Kind" means "species".
It could easy refer to animals that are fertile within their own groups. Any dog can breed with any dog, therefore, dogs are one kind. "Kind" meaning is more likely closely to the term "genus" than the term "species"
And if the animals were being group as a genus there could have been approximately 8000 genera(plural of genus) during Noah time or if u want to include extinct genera, there would have been approximately 16,000 individual animals which had to be aboard on the ark.
Now obviously this is just an estimate.
Also God did not tell Noah to collect microorganisms, he said land animals that have the breath of life.
Also Noah didn't gather the animals.
"Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground WILL COME TO YOU to be kept alive". Genesis(6:20)
Again the burden is not on christians, if someone can't prove something it does not mean that something must be false.
It means it's unknown not false. It's only false if u prove it false. There was a time people couldn't prove Pythagoras theorem yet people didn't say it's false cuz u can't prove it, they said it's unknown.

U atheists believe there's no God but u can't prove that at all. U people believe in Charles Darwin theories, even tho he couldn't prove them.
So all I see here is double standards. U believe in things which u cannot prove yet u ask Christians why he believes in things which they cannot prove.

truthman2012:
The ark was made of wood. How long does wood last?