Rossikk:
Has any of you christians researched this bible character to know if he truly lived?

director007:
if he did not lived u would ave been a dead person

Rossikk:
You haven't answered the question.

director007:
. Ave answered u he lived and forever more.

Rossikk:
Has any of you christians researched this bible character to know if he truly lived?

Anas09:

Have you researched and found out he never existed? Let's start with you.
Let me help you a little in your research.

1. Find out if there was a Roman Empire?
2. Was there a time the Roman Empire occupied Judea?
3. Was there ever a Roman Emperor by name Caesar? Augustus? What Year Was that?
4. Find out if he ever call for a Census.
You see, that was when Jesus we born. During that Census.
5. Fine out if there is a Medo-Pasian Order today called Zoroasterianism.
You know why you shd know? This is why, the three wise men whose existence depended on stargazing (Astrology) were the ones who presented Christ with gifts when he was born.
And, how did they know about the Messiah that shd be born? Daniel left his books of prophesy in Babylon.

6. Is there a city called Bethlehem? That's were he was born.
7. Is there a Jerusalem today? He Died there.
8. Is there anywhere like Egypt today? He was taken there to keep him from being killed after the Zoroasterians went back to Pasia agaisnt Herod's orders.
9. Guy, The Nation of Israel is not a Christian nation, they don't believe in Christ as the Messiah, but what shd amaze you is this, why did they preserve relics of Christ' death and resurrection?
10. Are Jesus' prophesies coming to pass? Have you been on Nairaland? Am not even saying the world, I mean NL here.
Remember you don't need the Bible to find out these facts. So don't tell me, the Bible is a Fabled book. Pure history. Do your work.

Good luck with your research. Thank me later for cueing you up.

Rossikk:
How does the existence of those places imply that 'Jesus' existed? Achebe wrote about Eastern Nigeria under English occupation. Does that mean Okonkwo and Ikemefuna were real people?

thorpido:
You didn't answer anas09's questions.Prove he didn't exist by answering those questions.

Rossikk:
How does the existence of those places imply that 'Jesus' existed? Achebe wrote about Eastern Nigeria under English occupation. Does that mean Okonkwo and Ikemefuna were real people?

thorpido:
You didn't answer anas09's questions.Prove he didn't exist by answering those questions.

Anas09:

Are you sure you read my post?
You mentioned RESEARCH, historical research, I didn't tell you to pick the Bible and read. I said use what I gave you to find out that Jesus never existed, if you can eliminate those locations, characters and Order, then you can dismiss Christ.
You asked if we have researched to find out if Christ ever existed, and I responded by saying you shd prove that he didn't first.
I went on to give you cues as you go along with your research.
Chinua Achebe was a fiction writer. He created his utopian society, using fictitious characters, and locations. But the locations, and names I Gave you are not fictitious, except you want to say they are.

Okay guy. Let's pick the points I raised and treat them.
You go first. Dismantle them, one after the other.

Rossikk:
What questions did he ask? Did Rome, Caesar, Jerusalem, Egypt, Bethlehem etc exist, and therefore?

DeSepiero:


I'm i insane?

ValentineMary:
Jesus did exist but his story is mixed with many legends. The authors of the gospel were anonymous and it was wtitten hundreds of years after Jesus died. But there are no records of his existence though , no records of the earthquake they claimed happened at his death, no Nazareth until about 300AD, etc. So the gospel was just a made up story.

Anas09:

Read what you posted if it made any sense.

Rossikk:
Dude, fiction writers frequently use actual place-names and the names of kings etc, as the setting for their stories. Read Shakespeare's works for instance. So the fact you see names like Rome and Jerusalem and Herod in the bible does not mean there was a real person named Jesus.

And stop asking me to prove a negative. The onus is on YOU to prove the existence of this character. So far, you haven't done that

Rossikk:
Dude, fiction writers frequently use actual place-names and the names of kings etc, as the setting for their stories. Read Shakespeare's works for instance. So the fact you see names like Rome and Jerusalem and Herod in the bible does not mean there was a real person named Jesus.

And stop asking me to prove a negative. The onus is on YOU to prove the existence of this character. So far, you haven't done that

ValentineMary:
Jesus did exist but his story is mixed with many legends. The authors of the gospel were anonymous and it was wtitten hundreds of years after Jesus died. But there are no records of his existence though , no records of the earthquake they claimed happened at his death, no Nazareth until about 300AD, etc. So the gospel was just a made up story.

ValentineMary:

If there is one thing I have noticed about religious people, it's that if the truth contradicts their personal belief, they would say it's illogical and not sensible. Pls tell me how does it not make sense?

ValentineMary:
Jesus did exist but his story is mixed with many legends. The authors of the gospel were anonymous and it was wtitten hundreds of years after Jesus died. But there are no records of his existence though , no records of the earthquake they claimed happened at his death, no Nazareth until about 300AD, etc. So the gospel was just a made up story.

Anas09:

Those locations are attachments to christ. They can work you into finding out about Christ.

Let me help you further. If am asked to prove that your great grand father existed, what I will do is, first find out your family name. Assertian which tribe bears that name, find out which clan that name is likely to come from.
I may travel to your state, then community. I will find out if they are surviving progenitors, I will ask questions from the most eldest living persons in your community.
Then I will ask if indeed a man like that ever lived or the offspring which you happen to be one, are fraudsters claiming he lived when he never existed,
That's how research is done.
I won't just seat back in the city and ask you, to prove to me your Great Grand Father existed by showing him to me live. Or giving phisical evidences that he lived. That's stupidity.
That's why the Bible calls you atheists, fools.

Anas09:

OK, they was a Herod, but no Jesus. There was a Pontius Pirate, but no Jesus. There was a Caesar Augustus a Historical figure, who called for a Census, which made Joseph travel with his pregnant wife to Jerusalem. But no, Christ never existed.

THIS MAN, YOU DEY THINK AT ALL?
DO YOU THINK IF JESUS NEVER EXISTED THE WORLD WILL BE SILENT WHILE THE NATION OF ISRAEL IS TILL TODAY PRESERVING JESUS' RELICS?

Rossikk:
You can find hundreds of non biblical references to Caesar, Herod, Pilate, etc. But none of Jesus, Joseph, Mary, etc. Apart from one reference in the work of Josephus, now widely acknowledged to be a fraudulent interpolation.

By the way, are you aware that nobody knows who wrote the New Testament?


What relics? Oh...by the way, Israel loves your tourist dollars, so they'll be happy to show you as many "relics" as you desire.

Anas09:

You said Jesus existed, yet again, you said the events or stories were written long before he was born, so he there's no evidence he existed. Wonderful. And you are suppose to be an atheist with super IQ.
Satan will keep keeping you delusional while all the time, you'll be calling the next person delusional till you enter hellfire with him.

Richirich713:

Hundreds of years after he died? Are u sure about that?

Anas09:

OK, they was a Herod, but no Jesus. There was a Pontius Pirate, but no Jesus. There was a Caesar Augustus a Historical figure, who called for a Census, which made Joseph travel with his pregnant wife to Jerusalem. But no, Christ never existed.

You started down this road. You have to give me proves beyond every reasonable doubt that Jesus never existed, then am expected at that point to convince you without any ioter of doubt that he did.
I asked you why you think the nation of Israel which till today is not a Christian Nation will choose to preserve the relics of a fraud?

THIS MAN, YOU DEY THINK AT ALL?
DO YOU THINK IF JESUS NEVER EXISTED THE WORLD WILL BE SILENT WHILE THE NATION OF ISRAEL IS TILL TODAY PRESERVING JESUS' RELICS?
SAY SOMETHING ELSE, THIS is STUPID. and am done here.
Funny enough you have not presented anything that says Christ never existed.

Rossikk:
First of all, use your brain, and don't call people atheists because they don't accept your bible. One does not have to be a christian to believe in God. Muslims, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hinduists, African religionists, Taoists, and Shintoists, all believe in God. Humans have worshipped God for over 70,000 years, and your religion, christianity, is less than 2,000 years old, so please know your place.

Secondly, have you gone to Bethlehem or Nazareth, or wherever you say 'Jesus' was born to search for his family or descendants, in order to inquire about him like you prescribed? As far as we know, all you did was believe the book - even before you read it.