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When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by huxley(m): 12:33pm On May 06, 2009
[size=18pt]When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family

by Valerie Tarico, Ph.D
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Reposted from http://www.exminister.org/LosingFamily.html


Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace,

but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and

the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother

in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

-Jesus, Matthew 10:34-36



When my Gen Y friend Michael confessed publicly that he couldn't believe any longer, it cost him a full ride scholarship and all of his friends but three. But that wasn't the worst of it. Michael had to make a choice: He could stay in his parents' home only if he refrained from "spiritual pornography," meaning any media that were critical of faith. He could stay there only if he kept his doubts muted and invisible. Michael said he couldn't do that and moved out. His mother said it would have been better had he died. His father banned Michael from seeing beloved younger siblings without supervision. (Apparently spiritual pornography can lead to spiritual pedophilia?) Loneliness and despair took him to the brink of suicide.



Michael is warm, funny, and fiercely smart. Today he is back in school at a secular university, going it alone, working his way toward becoming a brain scientist. But the choices he was forced to face and the rejection he experienced are matched in our society only for kids who confess that they are gay.



According to recent Pew data, sixteen percent of Americans say that they don't have a religious affiliation. Other surveys would suggest that most of these still believe in some kind of god, and many probably still identify in some way with Christian teachings. But the fact is, a sizeable number of us no longer ascribe to the faith(s) of our fathers. And for those whose fathers serve a jealous god, the price can be high.



From testimonials at places like exChristian.net; exMormon.org; Faithfreedom.org (leaving Islam) we know that Michael's despair and desperation were not unique. Many who lose religion muddle along in silent shame-wanting to believe, praying desperately for doubts to be removed, blaming themselves and fending off images of eternal torture before finally giving up the fight. Granted, some lucky few simply flip a bit, but others find themselves dragged reluctantly into an internal conflict takes years.



Most religions implant psychological safeguards against apostasy, little emotional bombs of fear, guilt, shame and self-loathing that get triggered by the mere act of questioning. In religious orthodoxy, doubt is the domain of fools. It is the consequence of having hardened your heart like Pharaoh or resenting God's power like Lucifer. Oh ye of little faith!



Now add to loss and self-loathing a crush of rejection by people who have loved you "unconditionally": friends, cousins, siblings, parents, or even a spouse. When I was a suicidal nineteen-year-old (still a believer), a woman I had looked up to for years, apologized for having counseled me as a Christian when in hindsight I clearly was not. But even now, despite my public apostasy, my family has never cut me off, nor I them. We walk a loving, if uncomfortable line with each other. Our compatibility depends on things not said as much as it depends on conversation, but the common ground is also real.



Not everyone is so lucky. Some families cannot get past revulsion and sense of betrayal they feel toward a member who has literally broken faith. Manifest examples of kindness, integrity, warmth, or generosity get reinterpreted. They were never real--or the person has changed utterly.



Some former believers, fragile in either their disbelief or their self-worth, can't stand to be in the relentless presence of even unspoken disapproval. Others try to reach out to family members and get turned away with harsh words or silent shunning. Still others face a barrage of re-conversion efforts at any family gathering.



A divorce can get initiated by either side. Either way, it is the renegade who is most likely to end up alone and symptomatic. Think about it: for a person who has already lost a god and consequently a core part of the self, to sever ties with family is an act of desperation or sheer self preservation.



Returning to my earlier comparison with gay kids coming out - we all know what the worst case scenarios look like. In major cities across the country, outreach programs offer a helping hand to homeless and often self-destructive gay teens, kids who have been given the boot by parents who think they might as well be dead. But who is offering support to kids or adults who lose their religion?



Even among my professional peers, psychologists, far too few understand the depth of harm that can be done to the psyche by fundamentalist religion - religion that subsumes the individual self to a cult self. The irony is that few mental health professionals are sympathetic to the claims of moral dogma. The practicing therapist is exposed daily to life's caprice: biochemical malfunctions, developmental vagaries, and rotten life circumstances. In contrast to a religious perspective, psychology seeks to understand material and historical roots of symptoms rather than making moral judgments. So the problem is not that the professional world view aligns with a dogmatic world view. It is just that, in the absence of dramatic evidence to the contrary, we are all taught to think of religion as harmless.



It's time to give up the illusion.



Valerie Tarico, Ph.D. http://www.valerietarico.com/
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by Bastage: 1:19pm On May 06, 2009
A question, Huxley.

If your child suddenly turned to fundamentalist Christianity whilst he was living under your roof, preached it in your household and refused to reconsider, what would you do?
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by huxley(m): 1:29pm On May 06, 2009
Bastage:

A question, Huxley.

If your child suddenly turned to fundamentalist Christianity whilst he was living under your roof, preached it in your household and refused to reconsider, what would you do?

He can expect to get his views challenged every time he pronouces them.
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by Bastage: 3:54pm On May 06, 2009
Would that be all?
How would it affect the relationship between you and the child?
Would you still be prepared to have him live under your roof if he continued preaching under it?
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by Image123(m): 4:01pm On May 06, 2009
Talk about atheists and agnostics suffering persecution for Christ sake. Funny lot
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by huxley(m): 4:18pm On May 06, 2009
Bastage:

Would that be all?
How would it affect the relationship between you and the child?
Would you still be prepared to have him live under your roof if he continued preaching under it?

Of course, at some level it would affect my relationship with him. If it gets to the point where we have nothing in common to talk or care about such that they is little interest in us "hanging" out together. In fact, I like that now with some of my siblings. They have been reduced to such primitive superstitious drones, they cannot say a word without the word "god" in it. Apart from the fact that we are siblings, there is nothing else in common between us and we go for months without communicating.

As whether to allow him to continue living under my roof, it depends whether he is a minor or not. If he is still under my charge (less that about 18) then he is welcome to live under my roof. But he cannot use my property as the base for any activities I find objectionable, just as he cannot use it for fraudulent and criminal activities. If he want to stay in his room and read his superstitious books without disturbing the peace of the home with "preaching" then he is welcome to.
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by Bastage: 4:59pm On May 06, 2009
Then in all honesty, can you say that you are that much different from the parents in your original post?
All you're really doing is swapping the word "religion" for "atheism".

For myself and to be fair to you, I will give you the honest answer to the same question as if you asked it of me but with the child turning to and preaching atheism. And that answer is that it wouldn't bother me one bit.

I would, on the other hand, probably kick him out if he were engaged in criminal activity.
Re: When Leaving Jesus Means Losing Your Family by tpiah: 8:29pm On May 06, 2009
Huxley, this is very misleading. am I surprised


Mormonism is quite different from what you're trying to imply with this thread. You're not talking about mainstream Christianity or Jesus, plz.

yes, strict Mormons can excommunicate people/relatives who leave the faith, and for many who were raised, the experience of adapting to the "outside" world isnt easy.


As soon as I read the first paragraph I know the story was a Mormon one

Michael had to make a choice:  He could stay in his parents' home only if he refrained from "spiritual pornography," meaning any media that were critical of faith.  He could stay there only if he kept his doubts muted and invisible.  Michael said he couldn't do that and moved out.  His mother said it would have been better had he died.  His father banned Michael from seeing beloved younger siblings without supervision.  (Apparently spiritual pornography can lead to spiritual pedophilia?) Loneliness and despair took him to the brink of suicide.

spiritual pornography means checking out other beliefs outside Mormonism.

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