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Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:54pm On Oct 29, 2015
Who was the Pharaoh of the Exodus? Was the Pharaoh of the Exodus Ramses? Why is it difficult to determine who was Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus?
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by scosco1: 1:10am On Oct 31, 2015
First and foremost, Archeology has time and time again proven the exodus myth to be a LIE! It's a miracle that people still believe the exodus myth...!

There were no jews in Egypt...! the Hyksos people were the multitude that were expelled from Egypt by Pharaoh Ahmose (1550-1526 BC). The Hyksos were given Egyptian name "Apiru" meaning peasant. The Ramesses I ascended rulership of Egypt in 1292BC of the 19th dynasty.

Biblical apologist will only try as hard to force ancient near East history to suit bible stories and myths.

Why wasn't the names of the Pharaoh included in the bible...since the exodus is such an important tale....?

Till date the location of Mt.Sinai/ horeb is still a problem.

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by Westadon(m): 1:45am On Oct 31, 2015
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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by GooseBaba: 8:10pm On Oct 31, 2015
Never thought of it that way.... Good question OP...

NL hebrew isrealites could you guys kindly answer the question. Because the word Pharoah is like saying Oba, Chief, Ovie, Igwe... This is a title that goes with a name.

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:45am On Nov 02, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Who was the Pharaoh of the Exodus? Was the Pharaoh of the Exodus Ramses? Why is it difficult to determine who was Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus?

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The name most commonly associated with the Pharaoh of the Exodus is Ramses (often spelled as Ramesses). This is the name used in movies such as The Ten Commandments, The Prince of Egypt, and Exodus: Gods and Kings. While this connection may be common in pop culture, the Bible doesn't give an explicit name for this ruler. Determining exactly who the Pharaoh of the Exodus was isn't something answerable using Scripture alone.

An additional difficulty in naming the Pharaoh of the Exodus is that Egyptian history is erratic and notoriously unreliable. Archaeologists note that Egyptian records often overlap, contradict each other's dates, and leave out major historical events. This is especially true if the events are unflattering to the reigning Pharaoh. Determining the time period when Jewish slaves would have been held in Egypt, then, becomes trickier than simply comparing Egyptian records to non-Egyptian records. In order to harmonize the book of Exodus, Egyptian history, and secular archaeology, one has to be open-minded about potential dates for the events recorded in all three sources.

Given that flexibility, there is at least one strong possibility for the Pharaoh of Exodus: Neferhotep I, Pharaoh of the 13th Dynasty. Consider the following historical facts:

Neferhotep's dynasty began because his predecessor, Amenemhat III, had no surviving sons and his daughter, Sobekneferu, was childless. This would explain why, in Exodus 2, Pharaoh's house takes in an apparently orphaned Hebrew child. Sobekneferu could have been the Egyptian princess who drew Moses out of the Nile and named him.

Neferhotep I presided over Egypt during an era of profound chaos, described in the Ipuwer Papyrus: "Plague stalks through the land and blood is everywhere. . . . Nay, but the river is blood . . . gates, columns and walls are consumed with fire . . . the son of the high-born man is no longer to be recognized. . . . The stranger people from outside are come into Egypt. . . . Nay, but corn has perished everywhere." Few monuments from the period survive.

Neferhotep was not succeeded by his son Wahneferhotep but rather by his brother Sobkhotpe IV. This fits with the story of the biblical Pharaoh, who lost a son to the final plague of Egypt, the death of the firstborn (Exodus 12:29).

There is no surviving mummy of Neferhotep. The lack of remains is to be expected if Neferhotep was among those swept away during the crossing of the Red Sea (Exodus 14).

Other historical tidbits about the era of Neferhotep I overlap with the biblical story of Exodus. These include evidence of a slave town, Kahun, which appears to have been hastily abandoned, as Scripture describes. Staves shaped like snakes have been found, dated to this same time period, echoing the tricks of the Pharaoh's magicians (Exodus 7). Shortly after Neferhotep’s reign, Egypt was overrun by the Hyskos, an unlikely event unless the nation was profoundly weakened.

Unfortunately, the realities of ancient Egyptian history make it all but impossible to say for certain which Pharaoh is described in the book of Exodus. It may even have been a Pharaoh whose memory has been completely obliterated by time and forgotten by history. That anonymity could even be a deliberate punishment, another reminder that supposedly divine rulers are nothing compared to the one true God. At the very least, available evidence supports the biblical Exodus as a real, historical event.

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:04pm On Nov 04, 2015
Who was the Pharaoh of the Exodus?
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by GooseBaba: 8:26pm On Nov 12, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


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Lmao...!!!

Who is fooling who...?

What happened to the Israelites that escaped...? How come they too forgot the name of the pharaoh. grin

It's like saying the jews that escaped Nazi Germany, forgot the name "Hitler" but remember him as "Fuhrer" of Nazi Germany.

Come on...! This pharaoh is supposedly famous. He went to war with a diety. Apologist now want to tell us the diety is behind it. Abegiii.....! Who is fooling who..!? grin

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by macof(m): 9:56pm On Nov 12, 2015
See Christians trying to paint the acclaimed greatest African king as a bad man


If at all we should believe that exodus story. The possible time of Moses(that is if he ever existed) is about 300 years before the reign of Rameses
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:24pm On Nov 16, 2015
scosco1:


First and foremost, Archeology has time and time again proven the exodus myth to be a LIE! It's a miracle that people still believe the exodus myth...!

There were no jews in Egypt...! the Hyksos people were the multitude that were expelled from Egypt by Pharaoh Ahmose (1550-1526 BC). The Hyksos were given Egyptian name "Apiru" meaning peasant. The Ramesses I ascended rulership of Egypt in 1292BC of the 19th dynasty.

Biblical apologist will only try as hard to force ancient near East history to suit bible stories and myths.

Why wasn't the names of the Pharaoh included in the bible...since the exodus is such an important tale....?

Till date the location of Mt.Sinai/ horeb is still a problem.

"They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore have you visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish" (Isaiah 26:14).

Would you say Israel didn't exist? Tell me one nation that failed and came back together again and I will tell you that there is only one. If God decided to destroy the memory of some kings and nations do you think there will be anything left? Thank God for Moses who chose to live in squalor with his people rather than become a Pharaoh. Moses is still remembered today so is the nation of Israel. This is a lesson to all nations that forget God.

"The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God" (Psalm 9:17).
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:04pm On Nov 19, 2015
Westadon:


More proves

Have you read the suggested answer?
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:30pm On Nov 20, 2015
GooseBaba:


Lmao...!!!

Who is fooling who...?

What happened to the Israelites that escaped...? How come they too forgot the name of the pharaoh. grin

It's like saying the jews that escaped Nazi Germany, forgot the name "Hitler" but remember him as "Fuhrer" of Nazi Germany.

Come on...! This pharaoh is supposedly famous. He went to war with a diety. Apologist now want to tell us the diety is behind it. Abegiii.....! Who is fooling who..!? grin

Are you doubting the story of Exodus? undecided
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by jnrbayano(m): 5:49pm On Nov 20, 2015
OLAADEGBU:
Who was the Pharaoh of the Exodus?

What do you want to do with his name?
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by GooseBaba: 7:37pm On Nov 20, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Are you doubting the story of Exodus? undecided

Sir, yes sir!!

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by macof(m): 9:08pm On Nov 20, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


Are you doubting the story of Exodus? undecided
What's there not to doubt? The whole exodus story is inconsistent with all known history

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Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:21pm On Nov 24, 2015
macof:


See Christians trying to paint the acclaimed greatest African king as a bad man


If at all we should believe that exodus story. The possible time of Moses(that is if he ever existed) is about 300 years before the reign of Rameses

It is possible that the Pharaoh could have been a black man.
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by macof(m): 3:30pm On Nov 24, 2015
OLAADEGBU:


It is possible that the Pharaoh could have been a black man.

Not "possible". . Most of the pharaohs were black men
Re: Who Was The Pharaoh Of The Exodus? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:39pm On Nov 24, 2015
macof:


Not "possible". . Most of the pharaohs were black men

You might get a point there. cool

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