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Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by OdenigboAroli(m): 10:30am On Nov 15, 2015 |
TellingItAsItIs: My comments were in the form of assumptions but it doesn't mean such claims hasn't been made. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by onila(f): 10:30am On Nov 15, 2015 |
and igbos dont have those crazy burials like Ikwerre igbos are not wild like Ikwerre |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Nobody: 10:33am On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila:Most of them were taught by their fathers to denounce their igboness for political and social progress in their own home,where they consider "an ijaw dominant region". so they think becoming ijawnised will make them more accepted.they copy almost all SS ethnic groups mostly the ijaws and even the efiks.They end up having offsprings confused about their roots because they realise they bear igbo names,speak igbo language,wear ijaw attire yet say they are ikwerre.its very conflicting 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Nobody: 10:38am On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila:Igbos should stop giving ikwerres attention,it makes them feel special when they aint even sh!t. They are NOT igbo and will never be.They can be hausa if they like.i'm really ashamed to be associated with them. The igbos in delta on the other hand are amazing people,my Bae is one. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Nobody: 10:40am On Nov 15, 2015 |
OdenigboAroli:i have never heard of such claims from any igbo person. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by onila(f): 10:57am On Nov 15, 2015 |
TellingItAsItIs:dey are self hating delta igbos tho like our coach - -Sunday Oliseh 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by jaymichael(m): 11:06am On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila:The way some Ignorant land grabbing "oloripelebes" think is just appalling. You migrate from your anscestral home and settle close to Igboland and quiet naturally you assimilated some of their culture and part of their language, dueto intermarriage and association next, YOUR LAND IS IGBOLAND good to be annexed to their phantom biafraland. Their anscestors leave Igboland (seeking means of sustainance) migrated to your land, lived many years, next they say YOUR LAND IS IGBOLAND and they are taking it with them to Biafra. The cliche they always use for their landgrabbing tacticts? IGBOLAND IS NOT ONLY THE 5 SE STATES. If all the other major ethnic groups in Nigeria grab and claim the lands of other "minority" ethnic sub groups, won't there be anachy and chaos? They are not the only ethnic group that spread outside their traditional anscestral home. Yoruba tribes extended towards North Central, South south, in Nigeria, Benin republic, Togo, Ghana, Ivory coast. Think what will happen if Yorubas try to land grab in these countries. Three sons of Oduduwa established their kingdom in Benin republic, Popo, Sabe and Ketu, infact, the first son of Oduduwa (popo) established his kingdom outside The Southwest of Nigeria. These Yoruba tribes are Benin citizens who are 100% Yoruba like me whose father is from Ibadan and and likewise all other Yorubas in Other parts of Nigeria ourside the Southwest of Nigeria. I have never seen any Yorubas saying or claiming that Benin republic is Yorubaland. We have brothers there, who are 100% Beninoise, There are Yoruba kingdoms there, The first son of the Yoruba progenitor established his kingdom there, The Beninoises practice the same Yoruba traditional religion like sango, ogun (etc) worship, all these DOES NOT make Benin republic Yorubaland. We take them as our brothers, cousins and neighbors, there is mutual respect and understanding between us and that is ALL THAT MATTERS. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Armaggedon: 11:16am On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila:what do you mean by 'official'? |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Armaggedon: 11:20am On Nov 15, 2015 |
TellingItAsItIs:leave ikwerre out of it. The op started it not ikwerre |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Armaggedon: 11:23am On Nov 15, 2015 |
jaymichael:yoloba man leave igbo matter alone. Boko haram is planing to bomb your enclave. Go and protect South West 2 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by jaymichael(m): 11:28am On Nov 15, 2015 |
Armaggedon:Hello, Awayu, izda why we are yeah! You ve been noticed, OYA BUGGER OFF. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by safarigirl(f): 11:31am On Nov 15, 2015 |
jaymichael:see guy, just shut your ignorant trap and stop making yourself look silly. The only land grabbers are those who he refused regionalism and own oil books on lands that don't belong o them ancestrally People who continually wait for the proceeds from another man's land to feed themselves, without which thy would be hungry. Those are the land grabbers. The Anioma blood in me is Igbo, the Anioma land I spend my holidays is Igbo, my anioma relatives are Igbo so once again, shut your arrogant, ignorant trap sh if you know nothing. any of is 6 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by jaymichael(m): 11:39am On Nov 15, 2015 |
safarigirl:Oloribu, wasn't it your brother Nzeogwu that led the first coup That also led your brother Ironsi to Abolish the same REGIONALISM that served us better in the first republic, which you now clamour for? If Politics and history is out of your league, stay on Romance section. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Armaggedon: 12:08pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila:btw, you cannot be objective if you classify the ethnic group into 'Igbo' 'ikwerre' and 'anioma' if your emotion permits you, dissect the group you call igbo, you will discover that even onitsha, ogbaru in anambra and oguta in imo are all anioma. If you want understand igbo better, group them into ika, aro, anioma, ikwerre, izza, etche, ngwa, isu, ndoki etc you will see that despite the sameness in culture, each group has surnames and sub-cultures peculiar to it. Ikwerre is not alone in it. Like Chinda, amasiemeka are peculiar to ikwerre, ugwuanyi, asogwa are also peculiar to nsukka area but they are all igbo names. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by OdenigboAroli(m): 12:09pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
TellingItAsItIs: Well,you must be new here. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by ClassCaptain(m): 12:09pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
firstEVA: Nice to know you belong to Unilorin ... |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by OdenigboAroli(m): 12:14pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
jaymichael: Well,hear it from the horses mouth...Yoruba has made claims to Awori,Egun,Itshekiri and some groups from Benin republic. 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by safarigirl(f): 12:50pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
jaymichael:mumu....what about the recently proposed regionalism just 2 years ago? You want to now bring in military rule, have they not abolished most of the laws from that period? You want to take us back to 1966, was I born then? were you born then? I'm talking of the confab that recommended regionalism a couple of years back in a democratic society and you want to drag me back to military era of the first republic oloriburuku oshi, better go and update your knowledge. Nzeogwu indeed. 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by jaymichael(m): 1:14pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
safarigirl:I know for sure so many are mad, many are raving, some are roving on the streets, some in the markets, some on nairaland. You fall in all of the mentioned categories. This section is beyond your league, go to jokes and romance bimbo. |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by darfay: 2:28pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
tobtap: Wat mumu influence does yoruba have on d urhobos, I should have expected anything coming from a fulani slave who is is still pained about d loss if ilorin to his slave master Nonesense yeye de smell |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by somegirl1: 6:16pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Delta Igbo The clue is in the name.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by onila(f): 7:22pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Armaggedon:there is no actual name like delta igbo its anioma, kwale etc 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Armaggedon: 8:29pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
onila post=lves40055713:u get my point now. Those you refer to as igbo within the south east also have their individual subgroups like the ones you mentioned. Before the white men came , communities found it comfortable to identify as communities not as igbos, despite their shared attributes b'cos there were no external threats. Igbo nationalism grew in 40s and 50s because of the need to unite and protect igbo interest in the new nigeria. Hence igbo groups ( like ika, kwale, aniocha etc) accross the Niger became known as western igbos. It was after the civil war that Nigeria , in a bid to weaken igbos brought some igbo groups together in their phanthom SE and placed some(like ikwerre and etche) in the so called SS, using their sub group names as an ethnic name. Really Nigeria is a fraud 2 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by onila(f): 2:32am On Nov 16, 2015 |
other Nigerians are happy to see these delta igbos and Ikwerre pple deny their igbo less igbo influence in the Niger delta 2 Likes |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by toby2(m): 7:43am On Nov 16, 2015 |
am really gettin educated on this thread... Pls keep it coming, but no hate abeg... Thats the last thing we dont wanna do. Thanks |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by 1shortblackboy: 12:48pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Just sick of this igbo-ikwerre threads. A man should be able to decide his identity without being shouted down don't u think ? 1 Like |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by onila(f): 4:57pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
Its pro Biafran igbos that are worried abt Ikwerre many igbos care less abt Ikwerre and very comfortable with being igbo in imo, abia and anambra |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by macof(m): 7:04pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
TellingItAsItIs: Why would you say "modify"? Is dialectical difference not a chance? |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Eastlink(m): 8:17pm On Nov 16, 2015 |
JudgementHammer: |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by oyatz(m): 6:53am On Mar 17, 2017 |
I used to assume indigenes of Delta State who speak and understand Igbo language are Igbos until I went for NYSC and I saw a S/eastern lady discouraging me from such assumption that they most of the fellow corps members i have been regarding as 'igbos' arent true Igbos and this began my interest in the matter. I have interviewed many Aniomas and I think majority are of mixed ancestry and unenthusiastic about igboness although they are some that loudly proclaim their Igbo identity and fewer numbers strongly resent the Igbo tag (mostly the Ika group, who are quick to explain how they are different from Igbos) |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by oyatz(m): 7:04am On Mar 17, 2017 |
Was Ogbakor Ikwerre convention of 1963 which defined Ikwerre as a unique and ethnic group forced to do so by Nigeria and was this after the civil war? Why did the Ikwerres participated as a minority ethnic group and submitted petition to Willink commission of 1958 set up by the colonial government to look into the fears and agitation of the minority ethnic groups? Armaggedon: |
Re: Why Dont Yorubas Claim Istekiri, The Way Igbos Claim Ikwerre, Delta Igbo? by Cire80: 8:50pm On Mar 17, 2017 |
oyatz:They're quick to talk about how Biafra and Nigerian politics made people to denounce Igbo. Ika ethnicity has been identifying as a different ethnicity distinct from Edo and Igbo pre independence era. |
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