Kay17:
Is God the immediate cause of the Universe? And can that be proven?

If sin is a character flaw which was unintended, can it be said to be a conscious exercise of free will?

malvisguy212:
God is the cause of the universe because Everything that exists has an
explanation of its existence,either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. The ONLY explanation the universe has for it existence is God.

malvisguy212:
God is the cause of the universe because Everything that exists has an
explanation of its existence,either in the necessity of its own nature or in an external cause. The ONLY explanation the universe has for it existence is God.

The only thing necessary for free will is the possibility to have the will to sin, not the possibility of being able to sin . Freewill is not a license to sin.

johnydon22:
Sir this is not only a huge lie but a cheap one at that.. Such explanations is a religious postulation (belief) which you should have mentioned it to be.

Last i checked there is no scientific theory that asserts a humanoid speaking the universe into existence.

There are many scientific theoretical postulations on universal causality under going scientific enquiry, "God did it" is not one of them.

Gravitational singularity
Quantum fluctuation
Energy as an infinite value
Parallel or multi-verse..

Please sir when you want to make a statement, put that statement in the category it falls under because "God did it" is not even in scientific agenda but just a religious postulation (Belief)

malvisguy212:
do atheists believe in First cause we called God ? NO. The atheists explanation of the universe is even embarrassing (one LUKY bounce)

There are two kinds of things: things which exist necessarily and things which are produced by some external cause.

Kay17:



So a car which needs an external cause must be have as an immediate cause God?

Is sin a character flaw?

johnydon22:


Your first cause is a humanoid that doesn't have a cause itself, existed forever and then got bored and spoke everything into existence in 6 days, has a son and is begging for worship and acknowledgement....

Created earth before the sun and day and night before the sun.. You guys don't really check what you believe..

I wonder which one is atheistic universal explanation because last i checked there is nothing that serves as an atheistic explanation of anything most just subscribes to scientific explanations .. I wouldn't be surprised if you call scientific explanations atheist explanations having known you well..



And this external cause has no other cause? Wow am really wowed.. You don't pull out unrelated causation where you lack explanation because such assumptions doesn't answer the question.

Multi-verse is a hypothetical postulation as such it also becomes a subject of enquiry in a wider scale if proven.

Gayjesus:
I know some people may throw out their toys on this issue but I am firmly in the " there is no God " camp

johnydon22:
Last i checked nobody ever asserted anybody got here by mistake, natural interactions are no mistake but a reacting action of interacting values..


This is a contradiction... If God is unknowable, there is no way you can ever know there is any... So same thing you asserted is unknowable is the same thing you assert to know... Quite funny..



Life as we know it is as a result biological metabolisms in us as biological organisms. . . So i take it you mean LIFE which is a result of biological metabolism is God?

johnydon22:


This so called proof is so laughable... Read it again bro..

chuna1985:



So ur a biological organism that came out of nowhere

Two Cells met and formed a zygote.. Replicated and grew like most biological cells does.. You call that no where Biological organisms are products of nature and everything is nature now remind me what NO where is here?

Try again..

aaronson:
To those people who would see from my point of view, its a question to ponder about, could as well be hilarious from your point of view.

johnydon22:


Two Cells met and formed a zygote.. Replicated and grew like most biological cells does.. You call that no where Biological organisms are products of nature and everything is nature now remind me what NO where is here?

Try again..

johnydon22:


The point is that you mentioned your proof, how come a question becomes proof of such assertion..?

chuna1985:


And that natural process came out of nowhere.

johnydon22:


You can now imagine it... Since you think nature must come from somewhere..

where?

And from where did that "where" came from too? and so it spans to an infinite regress of "where's"

Natural process is nature itself and nature itself is interwoven in infinite values of universal Cause and effect...

Kay17:



So a car which needs an external cause must be have as an immediate cause God?

Is sin a character flaw?

chuna1985:





""Natural process is nature itself and nature itself is interwoven in infinite values of universal Cause and effect"""

And all what u stated as I quoted came from where

CoolUsername:
The 'laws of nature' are a combination of laws of physics and laws of chemistry in our world.

chuna1985:




Lol. Those events that was studied to create those laws came from nowhere abi

CoolUsername:
They come from the interaction of particles.

chuna1985:



Particles that came out of where...

CoolUsername:
From energy which cannot be created or destroyed. I guess this is where you'll say 'God did it!' But I'll remind you that is what people said before we found out about our galaxy, other galaxies, and the big bang. We have evidence of these things, you should study these things. I studied the bible enough to become an atheist, so you should try to study.

Speechless3:
If you really want to know, kill yourself

johnydon22:
Last i checked nobody ever asserted anybody got here by mistake, natural interactions are no mistake but a reacting action of interacting values..


This is a contradiction... If God is unknowable, there is no way you can ever know there is any... So same thing you asserted is unknowable is the same thing you assert to know... Quite funny..



Life as we know it is as a result biological metabolisms in us as biological organisms. . . So i take it you mean LIFE which is a result of biological metabolism is God?

sonOfLucifer:

Suicide proves God? Wow, so intelligent.

Speechless3:
Thanks