~Sauron~:

Nas is not consistent. . . . . . Jigga dissed him on consistency.
"One hot album every 10-year average"
His freestyle ability is non-existent. . . . .He is a good poet, he raps off pen and paper just like 2Pac.
Breath control is NIL too. . . . . .Nas tends to force his flow when he is running outta breath. . . .He was guilty of this many times on "One Mic"
In short, Nas hasn't satisfied 50% of that list.

The fact that you dont like NAS doesnt mean you come around and started judging unfairly Sharon!
Breathe control on One Mic was average, yeah, but to claim breathe control overall is NIL, is bullshit, cork it!
If you think NAS hasnt satisfied up to 50% of your list, means EM and CANIBUS are locked head to head at about 5% of that list!
Who the hell is Jigga to diss NAS anyway? You use that as a yardstick to make in informed decision on his consistency?
You are a fraud Sharon!

A-40:

@Sauron
Sharrap! Alariwo of NL Canibus had neither talent nor was he successful thats why he's so irrelevant look around the game and tell me any credible rapper that rates Canibus?
Izzo was better than anything Canibus has ever put out in his pathetic existence! Is it ma fault that no credible producer wants to be found on a Canibus track?Get outta here!
Comparing him to cats who have dropped multiple classics shows you have shit-bricks for brains

Ok so he wrecked Beanie Sigel's career you say? Touche at least Beanie Sigel had one what does Canibus have?

~Sauron~:

Eminem and Canibus are the only 2 MCs that have satisfied all the requirements.
Common and KRS-1 said so on "MC---Why We Do It" DVD.
Canibus has got style, delivery, voice, distinct rap patterns and ultra-consistent.
The only thing he lacks is production/promotion. . . . .Tell me a Nigga like Nas/Jigga can replicate "100 bars".
Canibus warned his fans: DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME and trust me, you will need paramedic's gurney if you think you can mime 100 bars.
Eldee ended up in a hospital the day he attempted it. . . . . He collapsed after 2 mins.

Get off the Canibus and Eminem dic.k Sauron, your obsession is becoming nauseating!
Canibus is only good at freelies nothing more
Dem dude can hack it or make sense to the mainstream ALLDAY
Canibus will prolly stand toe to toe to NAS, eventually get murdered, but EMINEM, fuc.k it!
Line up ten street cats and they will all tell you, they bleeps with NAS all day over EM
Apply this all over, and EM wont garner 10% with NAS coasting with the rest, do the maths!

MrCrackles:

Get off the Canibus and Eminem dic.k Sauron, your obsession is becoming nauseating!
Canibus is only good at freelies, nothing more
Dem dude can hack it or make sense to the mainstream

MrCrackles:


Line up ten street cats and they will all tell you, they bleeps with NAS all day over EM
Apply this all over, and EM wont garner 10% with NAS coasting on the rest, do the maths!

~Sauron~:

U sound like a woman experiencing menstrual pains?
Who gives a F about the mainstream? Rap is not supposed to be a goldmine.
It's an art. . . . .Whether a rapper makes it to the mainstream or not does not reduce his lyrical prowess.
The best rappers are the ones underground not your average Souljah Boy or MIMs.

~Sauron~:

Nas versus Eminem?? It's a tough call but Eminem will disgrace Nas.

Nas Vs EM?
You dont pair an heavyweight with a paperweight, Sharon!
Fuc.k that, Jadakiss will crush Eminem's spine and feed his carcass to vultures!
Eminem is off radar dude, ESCO's bang on point

Krayola:

If rap was all about battling canibus would be king. But it is not. . . there is much more to rap than lyrically ripping someone's head off and punchlines that don't do anything for the overall song. . . . and since Canibus sucks in every other department I don't understand why his name is even in the debate.

eldee:

@Krayola
What the Bleep do you think you just spewed there??
Nas ain't real?? How many times have you heard Nas talking of loading gats like B.I.G??
This bloke just comes out to describe what he's seen in the projects,and u say that's fake??
At least we know he's not one of them rappers that lie against their parents to make multi-million dollar grossing movies.

@Sauron
You want me to listen to Common??
The same person that lists Lil Wayne as one of Hiphop's Top Five on BET??

I'd rather listen to George Bush talk about Calculus

MrCrackles:

Nas Vs EM?
You dont pair an heavyweight with a paperweight, Sharon!
Fuc.k that, Jadakiss will crush Eminem's spine and feed his carcass to vultures!
Eminem is off radar dude, ESCO's bang on point

MrCrackles:

Nas Vs EM?
You dont pair an heavyweight with a paperweight, Sharon!
Fuc.k that, Jadakiss will crush Eminem's spine and feed his carcass to vultures!
Eminem is off radar dude, ESCO's bang on point

eldee:

Come on . . . stop insulting Eminem
You're underestimating the combination of Eminem and Eedris Abdulkareem

Faggidy, Faggidy Andy Annie
No it can't be, it's Annie and Amy
No it Annie and Andy

~Sauron~:

Nas ain't real. . . . . .He never had first-hand experience with what he talked about.
Biggie actually sold drugs, same as Jigga man. Nas was a proper poppa's boy.
It's like Brash making records about shooting gats in South London. Thats a big FARCE.

So Common is not credible again? Common would whup Nas' ass with a horse-whip.
What about KRS-ONE. . . . . The Rap GURU? Is he irresponsible as well?
Y'all niggaz cannot think out of the box. It gets to you that a non-mainstream rapper is better than your heroes.
I laugh in SWAHILI.  Canibus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay-Z, Nas and other pretenders.

~Sauron~:

OMG. . . . . .It's "Faggoty" not "Faggidy". There's no such word as "Faggidy".

~Sauron~:

The same Eminem that MURDERED Jigga on his own shit?
He has maimed the so called GIANTS OF THE RAP INDUSTRY and you are still here disputing his lyrical power?

~Sauron~:

I recall Nas blaring "Oochie Wally Wally". The song that wrecked his career.

eldee:

What I'm pointing out is that, I've seen Common say things to please people
Rappers aren't allowed to say what they want anymore, KRS-One came out praising Nelly the other day
Nelly's a worse rapper than MIMS, but rappers now only spit the truth in their songs.

Nas lived in the projects, grew up there, watched his best friend die, was in street Freestyle battles . . . infact, he got his record deal from the streets.
He was the 3rd eye in the streets, watched things happened like a researcher and dropped them on poems.

His view was unique cause he was schooled, he could see things from different perspectives, he didn't even have to take sides.
The perspective Nas gave us will never come from any other rapper . . . they'll either be too involved or too detached.

eldee:

Come on, we all know Eminem has his special dictionary where he get's to use words like 'baleed'

I heard the Underground Remix Ft Eedris . . . tongues cannot describe
You have written a whole thesis on Renegade . . . it's boring already

Now tell me, which other people has he murked?? Elton John??
Do you want us to start this??
We made you, Just Lose It, 3a.m(AKA Ojuju Calabar), the list is endless
Eminem's will never be taken serious by the hiphop nation

eldee:

@Krayola
What the Bleep do you think you just spewed there??
Nas ain't real?? How many times have you heard Nas talking of loading gats like B.I.G??
This bloke just comes out to describe what he's seen in the projects,and u say that's fake??
At least we know he's not one of them rappers that lie against their parents to make multi-million dollar grossing movies.

How can you say Nas is not real?? Seriously, you don't need to comment on stuff you don't know.

~Sauron~:

Krayola, what he lacks is not his FAULT!!!
He lacks a good production unit and his promotion crew are nothing to write home about.
Have u ever seen Canibus kicking knowledge on a song? Forget the punchlines and lyrically ripping someone's head.
That brother is the most educated rapper out there. . . . .KRS-ONE is supposed to be the most knowledgeable brother, isn' t it?
Did u hear his comments on that video clip?? When u have KRS-1 and Common analysing your lyrics, you are gifted.
Enuff said.

Krayola:

WHat do you mean it's not his fault? If his production team sucks then he should go out and shop for beats from other producers. . . he can't write lyrics that appeal to anyone who isn't a die hard fan of his. I used to love Canibus, Sauron. I used to be in your shoes going around defending him. When he dropped 2nd round knockout I swear I would have had his babies if it was biologically possible.

I waited in front of HMV as usual the day his album came out and I have hated him ever since. Fukn buzz kill. The guy is a lamester. I liked the first song on the album but the rest of it was a disaster. I remember that tape sitting in my car for months. . I never touched it after that day

Being educated has nothing to do with being a good artist. Canibus is a good rapper, but a terrible artist. And back then i was so in love with rap, i was willing to try to like an album even if it wasn't great. With Canibus it was so bad that i just don't care what he has to say anymore.

Krayola:

@ Sauron . . . YOu will never hear me question his lyrical ability.

For me, rap is a whole lot more than lyrics. I'm not interested in pointless punch lines and an impressive vocabulary. I appreciate all that, but that is not what makes me like an artist. I want an artist to take me into his world. It is the overall vibe i get from the music (intrigue, creativity, sound quality, etc all help). I don't judge artists, I judge their music. I have never been influenced by an image or marketing. Its all in the music for me.

I can't stand 50 cents, for example . . . I was a big fan of his old stuff before he signed with shady (then he was just a real gutter boy looking for trouble and i appreciated his realness), but I hate all his new stuff. Nevertheless "Get rich or die trying is still one of my favorites", even though I can't stand him. His lyrics are very ordinary, but the songs are quality. . and i enjoy the feeling i get from listening to it . I'm willing to listen to artists that i don't like if they make good music.

I respect your opinion, I know music is all about personal taste . . . but Canibus just doesn't do it for me.

A-40:

@Sauron
Most respected rapper in the game? Who are you? Wanda Sykes! They where just being courteous i am sure they would have one or two cool things to say about even soulja boy besides rappers are like lawyers they would rarely run you down to your face they'd rather we fans do them the favor of telling them they are whack.No one respects Canibus he is yet to influence any credible rapper in anyway no one wants to rap like him he was and is a failure.

Sigel is better than Canibus he dropped two solid albums The Truth and The B.Coming talkless of countless classic guest verses on Jay-Z,Scarface and Freeway tracks trust me it jizzes on anything Canibus ever put out.

Besides how can Jigga respond to a non-entity like Canibus someone LL Cool J(woman wrapper) crushed and turned to a vegetable! dude you should try slapstick comedy in your spare time.Did you really think Jay-Z would give him that career meal ticket and launch/lunch pad by granting him beef with the Roc so he could get some free promo

jeff101:

Irregardless of whatever you guys say[b],hova will always be the best and the greatest rapper that ever lived.[/b]

jeff101:

Irregardless of whatever you guys say,hova will always be the best and the greatest rapper that ever lived.

eldee:

And see who's talking bout fake. . . The Academy Awards are thinking of giving Bruno and Eminem the award for best On-screen Collaboration of the Year.

A-40:

@Sauron
I have heard Common talk about The Game and Lil Wayne like they are Pac and BIG trust me he was being courteous no one respects Canibu7 to use any of his material on any of their songs that should tell your coconut head something
Are you high on Reggie Miller Lite? must Jigga and Nas be on every hip hop related DVD?

Bamsyle:

Nas' biggest sin is that he ain't consistent . . . but mess that . . . for every mediocre track he's made, there are like three heavy and undeniably great tracks to smudge 'em . . .

Agreed that Nas took shots at the mainstream bandwagon for some time . . . and he failed . . . but during this period, we never forgot him - we knew that there was a real artiste in the burners . . . plus fortunately, he came back with great albums . . . and mess that, how many artistes can boast of this kind of pedigree?? . . . I mean - hittin' on success, experimenting with failure, and still being able to stage a comeback . . . we all knew how Canibus hit the final nail on his coffin with his lame attempts at going mainstream . . .

Pit both dudes against each other . . . analyze 'em without bias . . . pound for pound . . . what has Eminem got apart from spittin' bout controversies?? . . . I laugh when I hear sturvs like Eminem rhymes words that ordinarily wouldn't rhyme . . . funny, cos Rakim was the cat that invented that concept a la his Paid In Full album in 1987 (where was Eminem then?) . . . and after that, the concept became played by other MCs . . . Eminem might have taken it to a new level but does that make him the King of Rap

And hey, Eminem ain’t the best freestyler . . . stop spreading false info . . . he pens his lyrics . . . Eminem can’t even lace Biggie’s shoes as far as freestyling's concerned . . . and mess the radio thingy . . . just because you can cook up a word to rhyme with another word that someone calls out doesn't make you a good freestyler . . . there are cats who can come up with more than 5 straight minutes of knotty rhymes  . . . and spit 'em with velvety-smooth rhythm . . . and plzzz, when we’re talkin' freestyle, don’t even mention 8 mile . . . you and I know why . . .

Nas is the quintessential MC . . . how many of his evergreen joints must I list to prove this?? Is it "If I Rule The World", "NY State of Mind", "Made You Look" . . . Is it "One Mic"?? - the vivid imagery, the powerful lyrics, the energy, the tempo . . . listen to this joint again and tell me you can't perceive the smell of the streets in "One Mic" . . .

Now this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLyYJ_X5vFg - Desperados 2
I’ve observed your penchant for being overtly sentimental about certain things . . . on the Desperados 2 track, I don't know how any neutral head'll say Canibus murked Nas, Foxy and AZ . . . what was special about Bis' lyrics/delivery on that track?

When I think "Nas", I think "Core Poet/Lyrics & Skill" . . . when I think "Eminem",  I think "Ingenious Artistry . . . aided by Controversy"
Nas compared to Eminem?? . . . Holy Smoke, the major thang that makes such thoughts even conceivable is the fact that Nas does not make noise . . . Eminem is a noisemaker.
Pray, tell me - what makes Eminem different from Marilyn Manson??