Analysiscorner:
Sorry if you misunderstood me. I'm not here level - checking. My point is that you don't have to defend the op. He was very wrong.

alpontif:


I still don't understand all you people that are justifying cowardicial indecision with orders from your superiors.

What is right is right.

I am a Civil Engineer, and I have several times gone against the orders of my superiors when designing or Constructing in order to arrive at the safest and best solution on projects.

The worst thing they can do is sack you.

But if you fail to do the right thing, and a disaster happens....you cannot say you are not responsible, because you could have made a difference.

I have several Doctor friends, and these guys are totally dedicated to their patients. They will be ashamed to identify the OP as a colleague.

ritababe:
You are wicked, how can order from above stop you from saving someone's life, if its your sister will you watch her die like that?
You are a doctor and thats your job irrespective of the order above.

safepassage2015:
i never defended the OP. Pls kindly go tru my post from the beginning. I was among the first to chastise the OP for his gross incompetence. What drew me to the old fool Boss13 is the way he's insulting doctors calling vampires and murderers while we put our lives and comfort on the line of duty. Just read my posts and u will see the idiot is a fool at over 40

EDUECO:
My 'sister', Nigerian doctors don't feel their actions and inactions amount to wickedness or sadism! What do you expect from people that were trained under harsh and dehumanizing environment? The answer is indifference,nonchalance, sadism,mediocrity,et cetera! Nigerian doctors are just like Nigerian police officers!

xavier0327:


As in eh? I tire....i would save lives first!!! Medical doctor indeed!! What's the worst that can happen? ?? You get fired? Won't you have some consolation at least that you did the right thing? You are coming here to lament!! Mstheeeew!

cosmatika:
I bet u wntd to do medicine but failed, hence ur rant against Drs. So u dnt knw dat govt policies affect healthcare provision in dis country? Or u dnt knw dat d nurses re d custodians of d equipments? So if a Nurse seys I won't bring out d oxygen cylinder cos px has nt registered I'll go fight her? Use ur head

joyandfaith:


pls,next time if patientis ur sibling ignore order from above. To hell with order from above.why are doctors so timid and cowards?

Analysiscorner:
Even among the Nigerian police officers, there are still good ones among them.

cosmatika:
Tears run down my cheek as I type this. I went into d medical profession to Save lives, but today I watched a patient die and I could do nothing.
It was around 11am today, 26th Dec 2015, I wz in the emergency room as the only Dr & House officer on call in a state Specialist hospital wen a peugeot wagon followed by a police van drove in. They opened d doors & trunk and started bringing out Accident victims. I did a quick triage & saw dat d 2 in d trunk were in a more critical condition, So d immediate plan was to refer d 2 to FMC wia dey hav better hands and equipment to handle it. So I asked d policeman who d driver is so dat d 2 will be rushed to FMC & he said he died at d Accident scene. I ran outside to buy airtime to start calling other HOs, b4 I could return, dey had dropped d 2 & drove off.
I called other HOs, only 2 showed up, others had travelled. To my greatest suprise, I called a medical officer who is a snr colleague in d proffession, she said I shud nt touch anyone till dey paid. That I shud Infact refer all of dem. I was incapacitated, d patients were in pains, crying, calling on us to help, some already unconscious, but we couldnt help cos we have an order frm above.
Within 5mins, 1 young lady in her early 20s died. Abt 10mins later, another police van came and carried d remaining 7 to FMC.
This evening, some road safety corps came to inquire if any Accident victims were brought to our center. They had retrieved d manifest frm d vehicle and contacted d families of d passengers. Dey came wit d relations of one of d patients, and wen I told dem 1 of dem died, dey asked for d Description of d 1 dat died and I showed dem d pix of d gal dat died, behold she was d 1 dey were looking for and right there was the gal's fiancee. Their traditional wedding was to be in 3days tym
I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable Drs treat patients in such condition. Let's Save the human race

claremont:
If there is a hell, I think the hottest part of hell is reserved for medical professionals who go against their oath to save lives, for the lure of filthy lucre. @OP: If you feel that you are not allowed to uphold your Hippocratic oath where you work, you should resign. Doctors are in high demand, you studied medicine to save lives.

As sad as it is, the OP is simply a reflection of medical practice in Nigeria. This is the same country where Doctors collect money from medical reps to prescribe their products, even if the products prescribed are at the detriment of patients.

Why would patients have to pay before they receive treatment at A and E? Shocking.

CFCman:

I like your idea. There could be, at least, 2 or 3 trauma centers in each state, with provision of air ambulances.

Analysiscorner:
You are right, Bro. But, my question is : were his actions towards a critically ill patient justifiable, as a trained medical doctor that he is?

cramjones:


You are such an idiot to assert that! What he is saying is true. An accident victim came, you could not even at least do the following:

-Secure IV access, since they may be loosing blood.

-Take blood for urgent PCV, grouping and cross-matching for any emergency transfusion that the critical ones you triaged may need.

-At least examine the patient as a whole, look out for areas of injury, palpate the abdomen and make sure there is no guarding that could suggest internal organ rupture like the spleen.

-Provide pain relief etc etc.

-Did they not teach you the ABC of rescusitation? You don't know that A starts for

A- Airway
B-Breathing
C- Cardiac function
D - Drugs
E - Examination (Quick)

- How stupiid are you that critical patients would be brought to your center (Accident and Emergency), and the first thing you are saying is for them to be referred? Is your work place a Babalawo center that you have to refer them at just sighting them? Won't you make sure that they are in stable condition first.

-You are stupidly calling on the government - to do what? Are they doctors? Do they know how to rescucitate patients? you foolishly called your lazy asss medical officer...what do you expect... Infact, if I am Seun and moderators, I would ban you from Nairaland!

-You are a house officer for goodness sake, the first on call, you ought to have stabilized the patients before calling anyone.

-You should be ashamed to call yourself a doctor. If anything you and the hospital should be sued and made to repeat your housemanship!

Nonsense!

-CramJones

emmchi:
I think saving a life is paramount irrespective of the order from above.

wytecat:
Can one of the lazy bottom senators propose a bill that every patient that gets to the hospital be treated before asking for money?

wytecat:
Can one of the lazy bottom senators propose a bill that every patient that gets to the hospital be treated before asking for money?

Boss13:


Madam for final advice to you is this - if you are wealthy, do not patronize Nigerian hospitals. For little illnesses, there is a compendium of treatments by well recognized and reknowned world class doctors, you can subscribed to their services online. You can be their patient too. They can assure regular phone call check-ins, video chat or you can travel if the illness is complicated.

If you are in the process of acquiring wealth, first get a health insurance. Second, browse for very good hospitals in the country. When you visit, be inquisitive. Insist on test before treatment and always read and research your test results and compare treatments. Doctors in Nigeria can diagnose wrongly.

Finally, NEVER give birth in Nigeria If you are married and still breeding. If you ain't, put it in serious consideration.

Take care

Dark89:
wats if at that point u called ur snr and her number wasn't going tru ? Wud u hv still allowed d accident victim to die or if she happens to be one of ur relation.....sometimes we just hv to put our selves in other people's shoe.

Oduduwaboy:

Its already taken care of by the National Health Act 2014...already signed into law! Most people just dont care about their rights & priviledges as citizens of this country. thats all.

Analysiscorner:
Rephrase, please. That every patient that gets to the hospital in an emergency situation, should be treated first before asking for money.

cosmatika:

I want to use this medium to call on the govt to make policies dat"ll enable DR's treat patients in such(critical) condition. Let's Save the human race

cosmatika:
Did u read everything at all? I'm a house officer, d lowest in d medical ladder. Can't tek some decisions wtout my snrs. Its a govt hospt & nt my father's