AlBaqir:
[quote author=AlBaqir post=41867385]
* CLAIM 12:
That Shia permit sodomy [anal sex].
* REPLY: Quran says: "Your wives are as a tilth unto you, so approach your tilth how you will..."[Q.2:223].
On the Tafsir of this noble verse, both Sunni and Shia jurists derived rules which include ruling of sodomy.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir [vol. 1, p. 262 Ayat Harth], Tafsir Imam Tabari [vol.2, p.402], Tafsir Imam Qurtubi [vol.3, p.88], Tafsir Durr al-Manthur of Imam Suyuti [vol.1, p.638] to mention few (all Sunni Tafasir), reported that this verse was revealed to the prophet (s) in respect to permissibility of performing sex in the anus of a woman.
In sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Nafi': ...he (Ibn Umar) recited surat baqarah from his memory and then stopped at a certain verse and said, 'Do you know in what connection this verse was revealed?' I replied, 'No.' He said, 'It was revealed in such-and-such connection.' Ibn Umar then resumed his recitation. Nafi added regarding the verse: - "So go to your tilth when or how you will" Ibn Umar said, "It means one should approach his wife in..."
Ref: {sahih Bukhari, vol.6, book 60, No.50}
"in" what? Imam Bukhari did Tahrif (distortion) in this report. However Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani fill in the gap in his prestigious commentary of Sahih Bukhari. He add the following:
"Approach his wife in HER ANUS"
Ref: {Fath al-Barr fi sharh sahih al-Bukhari, vol.8, p.190}.
While all the FOUR Sunni madhhab [Maliki, Shafii etc] believed sodomy is HALAL, Shia jurists differ. While majority say it is HARAM, few say it is not. In Sharh al-luma [vol. 5, p.101] of Allamah al-Amili, we reads:
"Sodomy is karaha Mugalaza (very close to haram), but not haram..." This makes Shia jurists ruled it to be Makruh.

lexiconkabir:
Op jazaka Allah khairan!!!
Anal sex is forbidden,

Demmzy15:
Op may Allaah reward you for your relentless efforts in trying to propagate the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad(SAW). Indeed everything is clear and there's no ambiguity in this Deen!
Salam Alaikum

MrOlai:


Thanks my Brother. May Allaah(SWT) reward you too abundantly. Sometimes, we should not keep quiet. If not, these people will spread evils on the land beyond what we don't expect! And Allaah(SWT) might hold us responsible for our silence!

Imagine him(Albaqir) telling people that sodomy with a woman is permissible! May Allaah(SWT) safe us from his fitna (Amin).

Was 'alaykum Salam.

AlBaqir:
[quote author=AlBaqir post=41867385]
* CLAIM 12:
That Shia permit sodomy [anal sex].
* REPLY: Quran says: "Your wives are as a tilth unto you, so approach your tilth how you will..."[Q.2:223].
On the Tafsir of this noble verse, both Sunni and Shia jurists derived rules which include ruling of sodomy.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir [vol. 1, p. 262 Ayat Harth], Tafsir Imam Tabari [vol.2, p.402], Tafsir Imam Qurtubi [vol.3, p.88], Tafsir Durr al-Manthur of Imam Suyuti [vol.1, p.638] to mention few (all Sunni Tafasir), reported that this verse was revealed to the prophet (s) in respect to permissibility of performing sex in the anus of a woman.
In sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Nafi': ...he (Ibn Umar) recited surat baqarah from his memory and then stopped at a certain verse and said, 'Do you know in what connection this verse was revealed?' I replied, 'No.' He said, 'It was revealed in such-and-such connection.' Ibn Umar then resumed his recitation. Nafi added regarding the verse: - "So go to your tilth when or how you will" Ibn Umar said, "It means one should approach his wife in..."
Ref: {sahih Bukhari, vol.6, book 60, No.50}
"in" what? Imam Bukhari did Tahrif (distortion) in this report. However Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani fill in the gap in his prestigious commentary of Sahih Bukhari. He add the following:
"Approach his wife in HER ANUS"
Ref: {Fath al-Barr fi sharh sahih al-Bukhari, vol.8, p.190}.
While all the FOUR Sunni madhhab [Maliki, Shafii etc] believed sodomy is HALAL Shia jurists differ. While majority say it is HARAM, few say it is not. In Sharh al-luma [vol. 5, p.101] of Allamah al-Amili, we reads:
"Sodomy is karaha Mugalaza (very close to haram), but not haram..." This makes Shia jurists ruled it to be Makruh.

Demmzy15:

Ameen brother, Allaah is forever your strength. Wallahi this is a jihad, I've learnt a lot.

Naijacitizen:
Jazak Allah khair. Whatever you hear from shiites is not a surprise to me because I am living with them everyday and I know their aqeedah. Which is almost far away from the teaching of Qur'an and Ahadeeth. Whenever I want to write something about them, I feel so weak because my pen is not as mighty as that of other writers.
May Allah (SWT) protect us from the wickedness of man and jinn. Ameen

lexiconkabir:
In the nearest future, when the charge of anal sex is brought up against the shi'as, they will say, it is the propaganda of the salafist/wahabist.

AlBaqir:


So this is your real self? ma sha Allah. I thought you have credibility.

# For the record, my statement is clear on Shia position on sodomy. Be.tatron have reposted even if you close your eye on what Mr.Olai posted. Kindly remove your glasses of bias and hatred.

lexiconkabir:
Sorry if that statement of mine dissappointed you, but i am only human, i must say that how you started the reply on the allegation is very misleading, as regards hating the shi'as i do not hate the shi'as or any other sect, if i did, i wouldnt have opened a thread on unity. Salam!

BETATRON:
Another mischief@mrolai--below is albaqir's statement
* CLAIM 12:
That Shia permit sodomy [anal sex].
* REPLY: Quran says: "Your wives are as a tilth unto
you, so approach your tilth how you will..."[Q.2:223].
On the Tafsir of this noble verse, both Sunni and
Shia jurists derived rules which include ruling of
sodomy.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir [vol. 1, p. 262 Ayat Harth], Tafsir
Imam Tabari [vol.2, p.402], Tafsir Imam Qurtubi
[vol.3, p.88], Tafsir Durr al-Manthur of Imam Suyuti
[vol.1, p.638] to mention few (all Sunni Tafasir),
reported that this verse was revealed to the prophet
(s) in respect to permissibility of performing sex in
the anus of a woman.
In sahih Bukhari :
Narrated Nafi': ...he (Ibn Umar) recited surat
baqarah from his memory and then stopped at a
certain verse and said, 'Do you know in what
connection this verse was revealed?' I replied, 'No.'
He said, 'It was revealed in such-and-such
connection.' Ibn Umar then resumed his recitation.
Nafi added regarding the verse: - "So go to your tilth
when or how you will" Ibn Umar said, "It means one
should approach his wife in..."
Ref: {sahih Bukhari, vol.6, book 60, No.50}
"in" what? Imam Bukhari did Tahrif (distortion) in
this report. However Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani fill
in the gap in his prestigious commentary of Sahih
Bukhari. He add the following:
"Approach his wife in HER ANUS"
Ref: {Fath al-Barr fi sharh sahih al-Bukhari, vol.8,
p.190}.
While all the FOUR Sunni madhhab [Maliki, Shafii
etc] believed sodomy is HALAL, Shia jurists differ.
While majority say it is HARAM, few say it is not. In
Sharh al-luma [vol. 5, p.101] of Allamah al-Amili, we
reads:
"Sodomy is karaha Mugalaza (very close to haram),
but not haram..." This makes Shia jurists ruled it to
be Makruh.
The bolded is albaqir's statement of shias view concerning anal sex not the part you bolded in yours
1-he clearly states that MOST of the shia jurist ruled it a HARAM and very few say it isn't HARAM
2--He said some shia jurist ruled it as makruh(offensive,detestable,strongly disliked)
Mrolai---It's so disgusting,repugnant and fetid how you LIE to proof a point----so bad a quality for a muslim

MrOlai:


Lier! You can't deceive people here with your Taqiya any more! This is information age!

The general belief of the shia is that sodomy with a woman is permissible even though some of them consider it Makrooh! That is all Albaqir is trying to prove in his post above! Stop deceiving people here!

These are statements on this from your scholars:

From Ayatollah Sistani:

1. Question : When a woman is in her period, can she have anal intercourse?
Answer : If wife is consenting to it, it is permissible but disliked.


2. Question : What is the ruling on anal sex? Is a Moslem allowed to have anal sex?

Answer : Based on the widely held opinion of Shiite scholars this act (anal sex) is strongly Makrooh (undesirable, what is not Haram to do, but it is better to avoid). There is no objection to the couple getting pleasure from the entire body of one another. But it should be taken into consideration that some actions are beneath human dignity.


3. Question : Is anal intercourse permissible.?
Answer : Permission is bound to wife’s agreement, but it is strongly undesirable.

From http://sistani.org/html/eng/main/index.php...=eng∂=4

According to Ayatollah Khomeini from his book Tahreer ul Waseela, Fatwa no.11, here Khomeni declares that men can have pleasure with women in the anus (BackSide) !


These are also some of the narrations in shia books forged and attributed to the Prophet (SAW) and His noble companions (R.A), legalizing sodomy with a woman:

(1) "(Narrated) Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Muhammad bin Yahya, from Talha bin Zaid, from Abu Abdullah [as] said: The Messnenger of Allah [peace be upon him] said:
Whoever volunterily let others sexually molest him, Allah will invest him with women's lust."
al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Who Let Others Sexually Molest Him, vol.5, p.549, narration 1.

Comment: May Allah curse the liars who lie on the Apostle of Allah [peace be upon him].

(2) "(Narrated) Muhammad bin Yahya , from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ali bin al-Hakam said: I heard Safwaan bin Yahya saying:
I said to (Imam) al-Rida [as]: a man among your followers requested me to ask you about a matter, which he feared and embarassed to ask you (directly). He [as] said: What is it? I said: For the man to use the woman's anus. He said: He may. (!!!!!)I said: Do you personally do that? He said: We do not do that."
al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Nikaah, Chapter: Women's anuses, vol.5, p.540, narration 2.

Comments: Typical Hypocrisy condemned by Allah [swt] when He said:61:03-04 ...Why say ye that which ye do not? Griviously hateful is it in the sight of Allah that ye say that which ye do not. And is typical to the Devil Iblis' behavior 59:16 Like Satan when he says to man "disbelieve": but when (man) disbelieves, Satan says: I am free of thee: I do fear Allah, the Lord of the Worlds. Nevertheless, the Shi'ites are people who love to dive in swamps and isles of human waste.

(3) "(Narrated) al-Hussain bin Ali bin Yaqteen said: I asked Abul-Hassan [as] about the permessibility for the man to have anal sex with women, he [as] said: It was made halal (permissible) in the Book of Allah, when (Prophet) Lot said: 11:78 Here are my daughters, they are purer for you and he knew it was not the vagina they were after."Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.157; Bihaar al-Anwaar vol.21, p.98; Tafseer al-Burhaan vol.2, p.230

(4) "Narrated Abdullah bin Abi Ya'foor: I asked Abu Abdullah [as] about approaching women thru their anus, he said: No Problem. (!!!!!) He then recited: 2:223 Your women are as tilth unto you, so approach your tilth when (or how) ye will ."
Tafseer al-Ayyashi, vol.1, p.110;Bihaar al-Anwaar Baqir al-Majlisi, vol.23, p.98; al-Burhaan fee Tafseer al-Qur'an: Hashim al-Bahraani, vol.1, p.219; Wasaa'il al-Shi'a: al-Hur al-Amily, vol.3, chpater 73: An-Nikaah wa Aadabuh

(5) Narrated Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from al-Barqiy reporting (Imam) Abu Abdullah [as] sa saying:
"If the man used the woman's anus, but did not ejaculate, there is no Ghusl on either one. But if he ejaculated, he must take a ghusl, not her."
al-Kafi (fil Furoo'): al-Kulainy, Book of Tahra, Chapter: What Mandates Ghusl on the Man and Woman, vol.3, p.47, narration 8

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You people are not ashamed of yourselves at all!

They(shia) hide all these from people using their Taqiya! You people cannot give Islam bad name!

BETATRON:
impression matters a lot bro---youve countless number of time proved your self to be nothing but a LIER I can't be moved by anything you post here on nairaland I'm not even compelled to read it
The rate at wich you lie has a lot to say about you as a person and your madhab-
There is a saying that goes--the interesting thing about a lier is he renders; his truths unbelievable

easymanofdpeopl:


Jazakallah brother may Allah reward u abundantly. please help us tell the Mods to ban that albaqir is one of the agent of shaytan on earth. May Allah protect our Muslim brothers and sisters frm him. once again Jazakallah