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Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by luck007(m): 10:49pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Mr Abati nor go fit sleep again all e go dey think na "why i write that article" Mr Capable a.k.a Banky W, i'm very very impressed You are really Capable |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by cabali(m): 11:03pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
I used to think Banky W will never disappoint me but after reading his response to Reuben, I am convinced he will never!!! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by drossy(m): 11:08pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
i never this article was causing issues back home, i read abati's article online, i was so furious that i immediately sent a reply to his guardian office! im happy he got the response from eldee! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by adigun101: 11:23pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Reuben Abati has never been more wrong. He belongs to the lost generation that derailed Naija with their lack of ideas and follow follow principles. Now its all about ORIGINALITY through STREET CREDIBILITY . I GET AM ! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by vicade(m): 11:28pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Banky W and Eldee are right. The Ruben guy is so wrong. Odds are also against Ruben Abati because Eldee and Banky W wrote better and more realistic pieces than him. I very much doubt if Mr Ruben Abati could sing better than them.If Ruben is CAPABLE then he should BOSI GBANGBA |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by proudly9ja(m): 11:33pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
This is the best rejoinder Ive seen so far
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Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by semid4lyfe(m): 11:39pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Jeez! I can't believe someone actually compared 9ice to KING SUNNY ADE. @ Asha80 U lucky se we no dey the same room or the kain slap wey I for woze u ehn , |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by asha80(m): 11:40pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
semid4lyfe: Bone dat thing |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by cabali(m): 11:42pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Even as much as abalti is wrong, you dont go comparing 9ice to King sunny Ade Thats taking our argument overboard. KSA has more Grammy nominations than 9ice has got albums so kill that noise immediately!!!! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by asha80(m): 11:45pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
cabali: Na my choice be that.Bite me. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by bigben3: 11:54pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
Reuben Abati definetely got it all wrong here,the younger generation should be encouraged and praised for using their time and talent well,and for promoting this Country for once in the positive light.Kudos to the Generation Next |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by proudly9ja(m): 11:56pm On Jun 24, 2009 |
To be honest with you guys, I think what R.A has done is to popularise his page on the guardian newspaper. Imagine the amount of hits he would have got since this article went out and the rejoinders? His employers must really be proud of him now. Nice strategy. Ingenous! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by cabali(m): 12:06am On Jun 25, 2009 |
asha 80: U obviously then dont know what the hell u r talking abt so I'll just do what should be done to ur type all along: Ignore you. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by Bimbola26: 12:11am On Jun 25, 2009 |
I have always liked Banky W because of his diction, fashion style and carriage but his response to the article lifts my admiration to a whole new level. If it were in some countries he could be asked to feature as a guest writer in a newspaper. Continue to make sensible music, Bankiii (like my mum calls you) don't mind anybody. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by ono(m): 12:54am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Point made already. Why overflog with unnecessary, repeated entries? Please move on to something else. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by Robotnik: 2:06am On Jun 25, 2009 |
I would have supported Mr.abati becos he his in the same field as my dad and are both respected journalists, I think He (Abati) should continue writing about his folks in Aso rock and leave we young folks alone. Banky I'am not a really big fan but 2 thumbs up for the reply. Its time we young folks stand up and challenge these old folks that always think they are always right. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by okokomeji: 3:00am On Jun 25, 2009 |
@Kay_ Pumpin… 9ice doesn’t in any way put Yoruba on the map. He just started and I have never seen anything cultural in his mode of dressing or ways he glorifies Yoruba. If Western world cannot celebrate you, I don’t think you are among. Check this list: Fela Anikulapo, Tony Allen, Sunny Ade, Lagbaja and so on. 9ice is by no means got there already buddy! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by okokomeji: 3:14am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Nigerians have started again, when someone does 20 all-ups and does 2 all-downs, my people would be blinded to the all-ups and started ranting about the all-downs. Mr. Reuben Abati is making sense but should have made his points clearer and didn’t have to be too ostentatious or voluble and got himself in trouble, where little kids would feel disdain for him. I guess he might need to apologize in public and the concerned body needs to openly accept that too. I used to read many of his articles and I would say he represents epitome of good people in our society. He’s a critic, get the point straight, he had written many stuff about bad government, politics, and education and so on. It’s quite unfortunate at this time, but don’t forget that criticism is part of life. Matter of fact, it’s a solid culture in overseas; because it does give birth to improvement. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by dayokanu(m): 3:18am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Jeez, Believe me I wrote a piece on this in 2006 Titled the wasted generation in reference to Wole Soyinka calling our generation a wasted Generation. Rather I would say the generations ahead of us are the wasted ones they were the generation who brought our country into this mess. They were the generation who killed their parents(Our grandfathers) because they wanted to rule at a young age when they should be learning. Ahmadu Bello, Akintola, Tafawa were killed by this overzealous generation. This was the generation our grand fathers invested a lot into but ate everything and gave their children nothing back. Their mates in Japan and Malaysia who had the same investment took their nation to greater heights This was the generation that enjoyed schorlarship anywhere in the globe but what did they give back? Which of them didnot enjoy Free education or schorlarship Before their time, our country was respected everywhere in the world but they were the generation who brought corruption and drug trafficking that gave our dear nation a bad name. They were the generation who enjoyed free education but could not give it back to their children. They were the generation after being fed in Universities brought cultism into the system They were the generation who went on rampage when their meal of chicken was halved, Ask them what they gave back They were the generation who got a guaranteed car and job after graduation but handed down massive unemployment to their children They were the generation who started ruling in 1967 and clung to power till 2007 bringing our country to ruin. They were the generation who led our country to a need less civil war. They were the generation who shut their parents down at will saying their parents were not educated and in their old age still wanted to dominate the next generation They were the generation who wore bellbottom and mini skirts with giant afros and would complain about sagged jeans and spagghetti tops They complained that we are immoral as if Fela wasnt one of them Ask me who represented Nigeria better DBanj and 9ice or Ras Kimono and Majek Fashek |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by porka: 3:22am On Jun 25, 2009 |
mr abati is a very confused guy. i wonder why banky is taking him seriously. everybody in the country is wrong except him. he has issues with the old as well as the young. he attacks everyone to point attention to himself. dr rilwanu lukman is old for his position yet he recently wrote in praise of mir hussein mousavi of iran who is as old and "recycled" as dr lukman. for me i think something is wrong with the guy. nigeria has changed forever guy. this is a brand new generation that wont suffer fools gladly. can you imagine banky's response did not get to your table before it was published for the whole world to read? you would have sat on it for weeks at rutam house. go do your book review and collect land in abuja |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by whobemumu(m): 4:52am On Jun 25, 2009 |
kill it !!!!!!!!!! idiot abati i love the doctors letter most my people it is only when u reach better countries that u know how bad naija is members of parliament in uk resign over expnses legitimately paid but inappropriate , in naija they just got visa to visit 5 countries onn fact finding for the haliburton saga and more than 6 months after the thing blow open not a soul has been arrested |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by mbulela: 6:06am On Jun 25, 2009 |
[b] Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! « #64 on: Yesterday at 05:09:23 PM » chei! children of nowadays no get respect again. Na Uncle Rueben una dey call by name so Uncle Rueben no mind them jare. Its part of the thing you are talking about abi? We are following the americans and british by calling our father's mates by name. no respect at all! By the way sef, Uncle Rueben, where were you when Kwara State Givernor (a man from your own generation) brought in Beyonce and JayZ to Nigeria and named a street after JayZ in Kwara state? or have you not attended several ThisDay shows organised by Nduka Obaigbena (another member of your generation) with all the american 'role models' in attendance, the most recent one with R.Kelly who just escaped jail for sexual offences. Maybe you did not hear that one of the governors (another sad reminder of your generation) flew in 50cents for his wife's bday party? And you also talked about us having the wrong role models. Please sir, name one role model from your generation. From all the 36 thieves who call themselves governors to the numerous ministers or even you journalists from your own constituency who go behind and collect brown envelopes and plots of land in Abuja from Waziri and co. Are these the people we should model ourselves after? Like Banky rightly said, we are willing to learn but where are the teachers?[/b] again i say gbam!! i wonder why no one has seen the errors in Nduka Ogbiagbena's ways but keep finding the time to write un researched crap about the youth. go see the videos of thisday concerts and see senators and governors shaking their fat bellies to busta rymes and snoop. are these the role models? |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by damola1: 6:34am On Jun 25, 2009 |
@ All Ori e foka sibe!!! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by TruMantra(m): 7:12am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Hmm…my 2 cents? We SHOULD be happy when the opportunity for a debate with a respected member of the older generation presents itself. It means that we both have an opinion about the “same subject” and even though the opinions of our generations differ, rather than hurl invectives at Mr. Abati we need to understand his perspective, analyze the information, and make corrections in a way that his entire generation will understand. He is an elder, and an accomplished one at that. When elders that have shown themselves to be worthy of the title in the past make a mistake, they deserve to be corrected with respect and in a way that will allow for them to maintain their dignity. Insults, curses and swearing definitely don’t provide Mr. Abati the opportunity to make an about turn. Banky W has done just that and has gained my respect for the manner in which he responded. I can’t say the same for Eldee. Genuine corrections are much more difficult to accept when they are laced with cynicism, sarcasm and scathing rhetoric. Responding in such a way is tantamount to duplicating Mr. Abati’s error. By the way, Mr. Abati is an outstanding columnist who has garnered respect on the local and international scene. That he fell down on this one is obvious, especially since he has a responsibility as a journalist to ensure that the information he puts out is an accurate depiction of the truth. Still, let’s use this as an opportunity to provide him with the right information to change his mind. It may be that when he is “converted”, he will serve as the perfect evangelist for the cause of the “Naija music industry”. I hope that some TV station uses this opportunity to provide a forum that brings together some key members of Mr. Abati’s generation and the Nigerian music industry for a tête-à-tête. That way, some good may yet come out of all this. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by fyneguy: 7:53am On Jun 25, 2009 |
A barely 3-yr-old girl came back from school and started singing ''ori e o foka sibe'' The parents had to withdraw her from the school. For real, we need meaningful and moral-provoking songs and not these jagbajantis The vehicle chasis (sound) may be good but they should fix the engine (lyrics) |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by sturvs: 7:56am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by Krayola(m): 8:19am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Some people happen to like the song "fokasibe" very much, myself included. I wouldn't let a 3yr old listen to it, but I appreciate DJ Zeez for the song. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by omorewa(f): 8:57am On Jun 25, 2009 |
plzzzzzzzzzzzzz stop comparing 9ice and sunny ade i beg, what's the meaning of dat. 9ice has even started of dreaming to come to this world when sunny ade was touring the whole of Europe. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by Remii(m): 9:03am On Jun 25, 2009 |
I think Mr Abati write up is misunderstood and read with shallow mind. The truth of the matter is that most music these days do not last while the musicians of yesteryears make evergreens song these days the music fade off months after release, also most of current musics are too identical in beats and lyrics that one would need to see the album to identify the artists. |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by porka: 9:07am On Jun 25, 2009 |
so much for morality and generation. this is abati's friend and a prominent member of his generation. what did he say to him. they are both getting land allocation from left, right and centre.
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Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by Krayola(m): 9:14am On Jun 25, 2009 |
Remii: IMO that wasn't a critique of music. From what he wrote it is fair to assume he hadn't even listened to the songs. Let's call a spade a spade, please. That "highly respected" journalist is a confused man. Flora Shaw can kiss my Naija ass! |
Re: Reuben Abati Vs Banky W: A Must Read! by rasputinn(m): 9:27am On Jun 25, 2009 |
porka: Hm,Porka,Porka,Porka Hope you're not whistle-blowing as something tells me you know Prince Obaigbena and RA on a personal level and they maybe short-changed you in one of those land deals |
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