Okies27:
. Your analogy is typical of Man who places the cart before the horse. I wonder how your childhood was. Were you brought in a Christian, moslem or traditional home? My late granny (an idol worshipper) used to tell us there's a God greater than the one she worships and she will point to the sky. Lots of you who haven't read the Bible or quran question who God is. Why don't you get a copy of either of the books and study to know who he is instead of saying what you don't know, Mr. Free thinker.

ifenes:


Being alive is no special privilege. Life and death are inevitable. The God you are talking about is you and I who never dies. Looks like you don't even know what God is.

ifenes:


My childhood was obviously much better than you can imagine. I was given the freedom to reason unlike many people.

You granny like every other ancient point to the sky because of the encounters the ancient had with aliens visitors. That is where the idea of God being in the sky came from, including in the bible and Koran.

Have you ever sat down and read these books yourself?

Okies27:
. You see why I say your mind is distorted. My granny never said anything about alien. You believe in an alien being story you were told but not an omnipotent being who ways, if you get to know, will make your life much. That's why I suggest you read one of the books. I know a little of the Bible because I'm a Christian and the teachings about so many things in it you change your life. What kind of free thinking upbringing where you giving? If you have doubts about any aspect of the Bible as regards the wellbeing and upbringing of child, read it and see the clear picture. There's no free thinker in the world who doesn't believe in some entity or the course of certain things. You have any questions about the Bible ask or you get a copy and then find out.

ogaprime:


Are you an atheist??

ifenes:

I am a human being

ogaprime:


God bless you...

ifenes:


Do you even know the meaning of the word "bless"?

ifenes:


You know a little of the bible,so why argue with someone who knows a lot about the bible? Your granny wouldn't use the word aliens,she might say "Star beings" or gods,whichever one. They are many encounter stories with Star being written in the Bible. It a shame you do not know.

I have read the bible well enough and there is nothing like an omnipotent god in it.

ogaprime:


Follow your heart and leave spiritual things for the spiritualist. Even if you have ever had the spirit of God in you and de spirit left that doesn't mean you still know God. You only read the Bible from genesis to revelations in the dark without the light of God for understanding, so you only read story book and not THE HOLY BIBLE...

Okies27:
. You have read the Bible and you talk like someone who hasn't. Probably, you read it without understanding... Free thinker indeed.

iliyande:
Children in their formative years are dependent on their parents in almost every way possible. Our kids look to parents to feed them, to shelter them, to clothe them, sometimes even to protect them when necessary. More importantly, our children are dependent on parents to help them spiritually.

Proverbs 22:6 teaches us to "train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it." In what areas do we have to train our children? Here are seven values that every Christian parent should teach his or her children.

Faith

It's often a child's default to place their faith in their mothers and fathers, and as good as it is for kids to learn how to trust their parents that faith and trust for earthly parents should never go beyond their trust for their Heavenly Father. Parents can teach their kids how to put their faith in God by always reminding them that every provision and blessing comes from God, whether they're asking for a certain toy or receiving their day's meals.

Prayer

As the old saying goes, "a family that prays together stays together." It's extremely important that kids are always given an example to follow in leading a life of prayer and devotion. Practices as simple as regularly praying before meals, and taking some time in the evening to pray for each other go a long way in building the value of prayer in children.

Compassion

As important as it is to teach justice and discipline to our children, we must also constantly portray and explain compassion to kids and regularly practicing visible compassion. Taking time to get your children involved in compassion projects such as feeding programs and ministry amongst the urban poor can be great ways to build a value of compassion that we must have for those in need.

Hunger for God's Word

Beyond the earthly wisdom that parents can provide their kids, there must always be the wisdom that comes from the Word of God. The great news is that the Bible is so full of knowledge that children can learn and apply to almost every area of their life. However, what use is it for parents to teach kids how to read their Bible when they themselves are not in love with God's Word. Teaching the Bible to kids is an outflow practice, meaning we can't teach our kids what we ourselves have not yet consumed.

Integrity

When parents and guardians teach our kids integrity, they don't have to worry about what their children do behind closed doors. The best ways to teach integrity is to always remind them that even if people don't see their deeds and misdeeds, God does and what they do in private heavily affects what they do in public.

Humility

Psychology Today states that pride is something that reflects as early as early childhood. Pride isn't all that bad. It helps build confidence in children, but just like anything else in this world too much of it can be detrimental. Parents teach their children humility best by explaining how our confidence comes from God and not ourselves.

Competence

No one wants unsuccessful children. Competence is one of the most important keys to future success for our children. The best way to teach children competence is to encourage them to pursue a craft or art that they can become good at. Don't limit their options, but rather allow them to explore.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/7.values.to.teach.our.children.to.make.them.grow.into.godly.men.and.aomen/77955.htm

ifenes:


Give me an example of what you have read and understood in the bible?

Okies27:
. An example is nurturing a child so when he's old, what he was nurtured with will guide. Children have beautiful mind devoid of hate or what have you and that is the reason Christ said only those with their kind of heart will have eternal life. But as they grow, you will have to nurture them. A child gets to an age and no longer drinks milk but eats meat and bones. In essence, you guide them cos they will make mistakes and that's where the belief or faith or your free thinking comes in. But remember free thinking allows anything to get into your mind so in order to guide against that, it is what you have fed into you that guides against such. It's what comes out of a man that defiles him so the question is, what have you fed yourself with?

ifenes:


That was also in the Egyptian book of the dead and unless you don't know, it came before the bible. Give me another one.

ifenes:


I always follow my heart,do you? There is no such thing as spiritualist since we are all spirits. The bible is not a true measure of knowledge, understanding life better is. The bible is only a book that contain stories stolen from ancient civilizations. God is everything you see around you,not a specific being.

To know more about life is getting to know more about your surrounding with an open mind. The bible is indeed a story book. Think and grow wise.

ogaprime:


your poo and piss is part of everything in your surrounding, so with your open mind your poo and piss is your god. no wonder some people worship cow, snake and non living things, weldone oo idol worshipper. I won't quote you after this if you reply...and I am not running away. There is just no point in arguing with you. God bless you and thank you...

Okies27:
. Lol, Egyptian book of dead. That's what free thinking does to one. Another example is receive Jesus as your Lord as personal saviour, the only way to eternal life.

Okies27:
. Lol, Egyptian book of dead. That's what free thinking does to one. Another example is receive Jesus as your Lord as personal saviour, the only way to eternal life.

ifenes:


Jesus should receive me as his lord instead. You laugh at the Egyptian book just the same way I laugh at the bible

ifenes:


Jesus should receive me as his lord instead. You laugh at the Egyptian book just the same way I laugh at the bible

saasala:
In this 21st century?

uzoronwusa:


Being alive is no special privilege. Life and death are inevitable. The God you are talking about is you and I who never dies. Looks like you don't even know what God is.


Its obvious you are under satanic blindness.you don't believe in God but you will be afraid to touch a charm that you are told is evil.as charms,ritual killings,demons and other spirit guides that people trust instead of God are real, so is God.

Okies27:
. I thought you said you are a free thinker but still read and believe in the Egyptian book of the dead. Wonders shall not end. People believe in some kind of entity but to believe in God becomes a problem. O boy make your head dey your neck o. No let devil use you.

ifenes:


Reading Egyptian book of the dead,Sumerian tablets,Ancient Mesopotamian books don't mean I worship them. I find them similar with much complete stories when compared to the Bible. Do you think I really worship the Egyptians? You must be silly to think so. You seem to be much clouded by your religion than I initially thought.

Okies27:
. You haven't answered my question. Did the book tell how Pharaoh ended up in the Red Sea? If you don't have answer, go to bed. No more mention on this topic if you don't.

ifenes:


There was no mention of Red sea,neither are there any archeological evidence. You are a man of one book,so Its difficult for someone like you to reason beyond the distorted bible. Don't ask me to go to bed,I don't do 9 to 5.

Okies27:
. And no mention of the death of Pharaoh? Egyptian book of the dead indeed. There's nothing in that book you will tell me that I haven't read somewhere. Well, be looking for archaeological evidence and Red Sea and keep feeding your free thinking head with rubbish. Goodnight

ifenes:


Neither is anything worth reading in the bible apart from genocides, stolen Sumerian stories and the worship of the Sun(disguised as Jesus in the new testament). It has been a waste of time replying you.

ifenes:


The wisdom of God? Are you kidding me? Mention one wise decision made by either the God or the Koran or God of the bible? So far it has been manipulation of the bible characters used as moral guides e.g the test of Abraham to kill Isaac. So far the bible God has a bad character and is been portrayed to have made horrible decisions, including planting a negative tree in the garden of Eden( which does seem ridiculous.

Kids have got brains and intellect, they should be encouraged to use them.