malvisguy212:
nonsense,the verse is clearly understood, Allah do not know how muhammed will die. The phrase "if he die or get killed" explained the ominipotent of Allah.

ari3l:
ISIS follows the words of mohammed word for word,

and that is why we call u muslim names on forums like this.

Or are you attributing the acts of terrorism to khwariji alone? Don't the khwariji follow the quran and believe in mohammed as the messenger?

Open your eyes.

[s]The bad names we give you here and claim we insult you, is because of this man. I would change my religion cos I don't see how peaceful islam is.[/s]

lexiconkabir:
you must be a very big scholar of hadith for you to know that. No! you call muslims names because you are immature and ignorant, you swallow every mumbo jumbo said about islam without adequate research No they dont, thats why saudi kingdom expelled them in the 20th century, they are not part of islam, islam is not part of them. I could also say the knight templars are the real xtians
open your own eyes, christianity is a fraud, your MOGs make so much money from you, pls open your eyes. Bullsh!t.

ari3l:
Christianity isn't a fraud.

Aliko dangote was blessed by Idahosa, if really Christianity was a fraud,look at his life today.

Knight Templars hmmm ancient world practiced sorcery. Maleficum(magic) that's why you see in most movies of old they have things like mages, and the likes.

How would you drift from saying Christianity not only practices Judaism, now we practise magic as well? Which one u day?

lexiconkabir:
sorry dear, it is, trinity(john5:7) is one fraud that was exposed by isaac newton tell me more! .

Aunty, who was talking of sorcery? do you even know the knight templars? well the knight templars were jihadist fighting for christ, killing innocent children and women, raped women, and all sort of unGodly acts, they are the real christians, the pope supported them. talking about sorcery, what else can be called sorcery apart from what your MOGs do in the name of "miracle"? its manifest sorcery!!!

lexiconkabir:
@ari3l, why are you so tensed up? , you said idahosa blessed dangote, so idahosa is now God? you see how irrational xtianity is? I dont know where and when i mentioned sorcery in my post where i talked of the templars, the templars were fully supported by the pope, you cant tell me that you know more than the pope, can you? i say it again, the templars were jihadists fighting for christ and christians! who hijacked spain from muslims, and with the support of whom? who benefitted from the hijack? even after the hijack was the rule over spain peaceful or bloody? how was it hijacked? it shows that you have a lot of readings to do, BTW you didnt answer the part, where i talked on the fraud of trinity(john5:7) exposed by isaac newton, or you've seen that i spoke the truth? see its so funny when you guys get tensed up and frustrated when things like knight templars are attributed to you, but you find it pleasurable to attribute ISIS, Boko are-rams, etc to islam, i hate double standards! hypocrites.

lexiconkabir:
@ari3l, The Knights Templar were sworn never to surrender, death on the battlefield ensured a place in heaven, if the knights templar are not the real christians, why would they lay their lives down for christianity and not for Gold? ok lets assume, they were just mercineries as you want us to believe, why would the pope use evil to fight? it is worthy of note that the templars were accused of heresy and idol worship, this was largely instigated by king phillip v of france because he was indebted to them, so all the nonsense you spewed about them being sorcerers, following the old religion, were nothing but propaganda instigated by king phillip v. about isaac newton, he exposed the 3rd edition of the erasmus bible that inserted 1john5:7 in the 15th century, this verse is not found in any old greek manuscript, its a big fraud, personally i think it was added to buttress the catholic beliefs of trinity since no verse existed that explicitly suggests trinity.

ari3l:


Point if correction. The pope didn't summon them. Templars are protectors of religions. And they are trained military as I told you before. They have a commander as well who would have sworn allegiance to christendom and are friends to Christians.

Which church or rather have you seen any church of the freemason or thier bible?

I said show the public this crap of Issac newton

[s]someone would need to tlk some senses into you. You are just pointless in this arguement. Stop talking. Go and make your research well. I'm giving you facts and figures. Am showing you links to disprove your stupíd lies. Stop saying all this crap here.[/s]

lexiconkabir:
which other religion was protected by the templars?

bullsh

!t You didnt read the post? i have done that already, visit this thread for more https://www.nairaland.com/2533659/lie-1john-5-7-corruption, you can go to wikipedia and search for "two notable corruptions of the scriptures" trash!

Despite their fearsome, battle-hardened reputation, the Knights Templar were learned men, dedicated to protecting travelers and pilgrims of all religions, not just Christians. They were great statesmen, politically adept, economic traders, and they were apparently allied with the great sailor-fraternity that had created a worldwide trading empire in Phoenician times.

The original historic [size=20pt]Knights Templar were a Christian military order[/size], the Order of the Poor Fellow Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon, that existed from the 12th to 14th centuries to provide warriors in the Crusades.

lexiconkabir:
@ari3l, when giving links, provide a credible link, not mushroom link, here is a more credible link from wikipedia, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_legends and read this part

ari3l:
@lexiconkabir, you are pointless. To God who made me! what exactly is your point here? Trinity in one so what are u saying?

You should make your points clear, even me don't understand what you are saying.

ari3l:


A christian militarily order that protects all other religions . Mushrooms link indeed.

lexiconkabir:
too dense for you to understand? ok, let me make it simpler, my point is the present bible as many frauds in it, before 1516, there was no such thing as 1john5:7(which is the verse that explicitly join the truine as one) in the buy-bull, now before that year, the roman catholics had a polytheistic creed in 3 gods, so in order to justify their beliefs, they inserted 1john5:7 into the erasmus bible at 1516, it was never there, wikipedia(a very credible source) testifies to this. Thank God for truthful that exposed this fraud of the church, one of them was isaac newton, the church even tried killing newton for this but to no avail, it is worth noting that newton himself was a roman catholic. That is one out of the many frauds in christianity.

ari3l:


Where and when was it stated that the church wanted to kill Issac?

lexiconkabir:
But thats not the point here, is it? we are talking about the fraud of 1john5:7, dont try to change topic .

lexiconkabir:
you better keep mute if you dont know anything, or find things hard to comprehend.

Scholar8200:

This is to specially invite you to a Moment of Discovery
https://www.nairaland.com/2937501/1-john-5-7-real

ari3l:


The man wan use em plenty nonsense gimme belle for here. Which kain one be free mason be christians again. The guy need check em sef o

lexiconkabir:
ari3l, i can see how frustrated you are! thank God you kept mute on the issue of 1john5:7 masha Allah , i'll keep striking your hearts with the truth! maybe you will become rational, its very funny! you want us to believe that templars has nothing to do with xtianity, but you force boko are-rams and isis on islam, bunch of hypocrites! the only reason you dont want to read me again is because of the arrows of truth i used in striking your heart, nothing more! dont try to look relevant, when infact, you are not! good day!

ari3l:

Talking rubbish again as usual.

ISIS is heavyweight sunni islam sect. Boko haram is super heavyweight sunni islam sect. They practice what they read from your Quran,

ok they are not muslims who are they then? Christians?

lexiconkabir:
receive sense! this is 2016, the brother has explained the reason that verse was revealed, i could bet that you didnt read it, thats why you still spewed this trash again.

malvisguy212:
the phrase "if he die or get killed" what does it mean ?

lexiconkabir:
That reply the brother gave is sufficient enough for the wise, go and read it. i'm done with you on this!

malvisguy212:
In Islam, it is not how one lives that
guarantees salvation, but how one dies.
To die while fighting the infidels in the
cause of Allah is the only sure way for
Muslims to be assured of a place in
Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment.

Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of
the believers their persons and their
goods; for theirs in return is the
garden of Paradise: they fight in H
is cause, and slay and are slain.
(Yusuf Ali)

Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul
which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT.

Surah 17:33 is an important verse for
suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means.

Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam.

THE BARGAIN OF ALLAH
It may surprise many to learn that all
Muslims, including Muhammad will
descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam.

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .”

THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71.

However, there is a way for Muslims to
bypass “Hell” and head straight into
Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with
Muslims to show how this is possible.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
strive your utmost in the Cause of
Allah , with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to
Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,
and to beautiful mansions in
Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed
the Supreme Achievement. And
another favour will He bestow, which
ye do love, – help from Allah and a
speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali)

The above Qur’anic verses were written
in the historical context of the Battle of
Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are
motivated by this murderous bargain of
Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in
the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place
in Paradise for cold blooded killers.

Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and
those who believe with him, strive
and fight with their wealth and
their persons: for them are all good
things: and it is they who will
prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)

malvisguy212:
promoting what ? You mean by exposing the evil teaching in the quran , I am promoting it ?

malvisguy212:
In Islam, it is not how one lives that
guarantees salvation, but how one dies.
To die while fighting the infidels in the
cause of Allah is the only sure way for
Muslims to be assured of a place in
Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment.

Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of
the believers their persons and their
goods; for theirs in return is the
garden of Paradise: they fight in H
is cause, and slay and are slain.
(Yusuf Ali)

Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul
which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT.

Surah 17:33 is an important verse for
suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means.

Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam.

THE BARGAIN OF ALLAH
It may surprise many to learn that all
Muslims, including Muhammad will
descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam.

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .”

THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71.

However, there is a way for Muslims to
bypass “Hell” and head straight into
Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with
Muslims to show how this is possible.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
strive your utmost in the Cause of
Allah , with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to
Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,
and to beautiful mansions in
Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed
the Supreme Achievement. And
another favour will He bestow, which
ye do love, – help from Allah and a
speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali)

The above Qur’anic verses were written
in the historical context of the Battle of
Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are
motivated by this murderous bargain of
Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in
the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place
in Paradise for cold blooded killers.

Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and
those who believe with him, strive
and fight with their wealth and
their persons: for them are all good
things: and it is they who will
prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)

malvisguy212:
In Islam, it is not how one lives that
guarantees salvation, but how one dies.
To die while fighting the infidels in the
cause of Allah is the only sure way for
Muslims to be assured of a place in
Paradise. Pious muslims will be taken to hell until the day of judgment.

Surah 9:111: Allah hath purchased of
the believers their persons and their
goods; for theirs in return is the
garden of Paradise: they fight in H
is cause, and slay and are slain.
(Yusuf Ali)

Surah 17:33: And do not kill the soul
which Allah has forbidden EXCEPT BY RIGHT.

Surah 17:33 is an important verse for
suicide-bombers. This Qur’anic verse not only justifies their own suicidal deaths but it also justifies the unintended killing of other Muslims in the process. Since the jihadist goal is to defeat the infidels and establish the right of Islamic rule at all cost, they believe the end justifies the means.

Therefore, the purpose of these suicide bombers is not just to kill themselves but to kill the enemies of Islam. In the mathematics of the jihadist, the most effective way to kill as many infidels is by means of this extremely evil method. The suicide bombers believe that they are rewarded, not for simply dying, but for dying as a means for killing. Thus, their own death is sanctioned by Allah and is accepted as a necessary sacrifice. They are honored as martyrs because they died in the fight against the enemies of Islam.

THE BARGAIN OF ALLAH
It may surprise many to learn that all
Muslims, including Muhammad will
descend into “Hell” before being rescued from it on the “Day of Resurrection.” The “Day of Resurrection” or “Qiyamah” refers to the time of the end. This means that even as you are reading this article, Muhammad and his pious followers are in “Hell” awaiting deliverance. The following Qur’anic verse and Hadith attests to this teaching in Islam.

Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable
decree of your Lord that EVERYONE OF YOU WILL BE TAKEN TO HELL .”

THE ONLY WAY TO BYPASS THE PUNISHMENT IN SURAH 19:71.

However, there is a way for Muslims to
bypass “Hell” and head straight into
Paradise. Allah makes a bargain with
Muslims to show how this is possible.

Surah 61:10-13: O YE WHO BELIEVE SHALL I LEAD YOU TO A BARGAIN THAT WILL SAVE YOU FROM A GRIEVOUS PENALTY ? – That ye believe in Allah
and His Messenger, and that ye
strive your utmost in the Cause of
Allah , with your property and your
persons: That will be best for you, if
ye but knew! He will forgive you
your sins, and admit you to
Gardens beneath which Rivers flow,
and to beautiful mansions in
Gardens of Eternity: that is indeed
the Supreme Achievement. And
another favour will He bestow, which
ye do love, – help from Allah and a
speedy victory. (Yusuf Ali)

The above Qur’anic verses were written
in the historical context of the Battle of
Uhud (625 C.E.). In the Arabic Qur’an, the term Jihad is used in the above Qur’anic verses. “That ye believe in Allah and His Messenger, and that ye strive (Jihad) your utmost in the Cause of Allah.” Since all Muslims, including pious ones will have to spend a waiting-period in the “Islamic-Hell” before reaching Paradise, Allah made a bargain with Muslims. He told them that if they die fighting for his cause, he will forgive their sins and will save them from the “grievous Penalty” of “Hell-fire.” In other words, there is no need to burn in the “Islamic-Hell” until the Day of Resurrection when the faithful among them will be rescued. Paradise will be instant for those who die fighting for Allah.

Till today, Muslim suicide bombers are
motivated by this murderous bargain of
Allah. Allah’s bargain is still in force in
the Book of Hate. Islam reserves a place
in Paradise for cold blooded killers.

Surah 9:88: “But the Messenger, and
those who believe with him, strive
and fight with their wealth and
their persons: for them are all good
things: and it is they who will
prosper.” (Yusuf Ali)