snapscore:


When I mentioned bowing, I mentioned it for veneration.

@bolded is what I mean when I say I want to run away from the culture.

Ookay..Let's just keep doing our research

Lol me I didn't run away ooh. Na book carry me comot lol. I never knew you were Yoruba. E kaasan o

AbuHammaad:


Lol me I didn't run away ooh. Na book carry me comot lol. I never knew you were Yoruba. E kaasan o

I am Yoruba but I don't speak the language fluently.

E kaasan.

I'll post all the scholarly opinions on that link here so it's easier to read.

................ Too long

So yes, they all agree bowing to worship someone is Shirk while bowing to someone as a way of veneration is strongly impermissible

That post took so much space and it's hard to read so I'll clear some parts of it soon

AbuHammaad:
So yes, they all agree bowing to worship someone is Shirk while bowing to someone as a way of veneration is strongly impermissible

That post took so much space and it's hard to read so I'll clear some parts of it soon

I read the post on the website, but I think I will like to read more about why some scholars say it's shirk. Islamqa says its a major sin.

snapscore:


I read the post on the website, but I think I will like to read more about why some scholars say it's shirk. Islamqa says its a major sin.

I didn't see any of the scholars regard prostration as a way of veneration as Shirk tho. Not even one

Way tooo long

...............

AbuHammaad:


I didn't see any of the scholars regard prostration as a way of veneration as Shirk tho. Not even one

They mentioned it in the post, they said it was a weak opinion.

snapscore:
I am Yoruba but I don't speak the language fluently.
E kaasan.

shi daadaani

FriendNG:


shi daadaani

A dupe( it literally means we are grateful). Bayo ni wo kno ( how are you too).

snapscore:


A dupe( it literally means we are grateful). Bayo ni wo kno ( how are you too).

Na shi daadani I talk not A dupe

FriendNG:


Na shi daadani I talk not A dupe

A dupe is the response to shi daadani

snapscore:

A dupe is the response to shi daadani

Oh. a Thank you

Inna lillaahi wa ina ilayhi ra'jiun

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1638085796207668&id=100000187915533

Innalillaahi wa inna ilayhirraaji'oon...

snapscore:


They mentioned it in the post, they said it was a weak opinion.

Those that said its shirk based it on the verse I mentioned earlier in suratul jinn and fussilat...which is looking weak to me now, saying its shirk means we are accusing past prophets of falling into shirk which is impossible..

AbdelKabir:


Those that said its shirk based it on the verse I mentioned earlier in suratul jinn and fussilat...which is looking weak to me now, saying its shirk means we are accusing past prophets of falling into shirk which is impossible..

Agree.

FriendNG:


Na shi daadani I talk not A dupe

What nonsense are you saying now?

Rilwayne001:


What nonsense are you saying now?

Shut up. You refused to teach and somebody is trying but only 4 you to register your displeasure.

FriendNG:


Shut up. You refused to teach and somebody is trying but only 4 you to register your displeasure.

The same somebody that doesn't understand Yoruba?

Rilwayne001:

The same somebody that doesn't understand Yoruba?

She does but not as you. Atleast wat she told me is true.

If you can pay, I will teach you.

FriendNG:


She does but not as you. Atleast wat she told me is true.

SMH.

So when someone bow to greet or for respect is now a worship? Where is the humbleness? Where is our cultural ethics?

This NL Islamic section needs fumigation...

tintingz:
SMH.

So when someone bow to greet or for respect is now a worship? Where is the humbleness? Where is our cultural ethics?

Going to cultural ethics is too far as it isn't a yardstick for the religious practice. What I don't I don't understand as regards this issue is that, isn't our intention what God wants and not our posture? The intention for bowing or even prostrating to our elders is an act of respect and not intended to worship them.

I was shocked to hear an imam- back then when I was living in an Hausa community down here- said it is best to greet your father by handshaking him instead of bowing to him which is actually shirk, I be like what ?

You see the irony yourself bah?

AbdelKabir:
This NL Islamic section needs fumigation...

No, This is what you need sir.

Thank me later.

tintingz:
No, This is what you need sir.
Thank me later.

Oga NAS meyake damunka ne? Watx wrong with you.

Rilwayne001:


Going to cultural ethics is too far as it isn't a yardstick for the religious practice. What I don't I don't understand as regards this issue is that, isn't our intention what God wants and not our posture? The intention for bowing or even prostrating to our elders is an act of respect and not intended to worship them.

I was shocked to hear an imam- back then when I was living in an Hausa community down here- said it is best to greet your father by handshaking him instead of bowing to him which is actually shirk, I be like what ?




You see the irony yourself bah?

Thank you my brother. People love it when one show humbleness not ego, Obama, Clinton showed a sign of respect and humbleness to the King of Saudi even though they are also leaders, you can see the smile in the king's face.

I don't believe in all our cultural practices but I believe in the ethics and moral in our culture, I wonder when bowing to an elder mean someone is worshipping him/her? My Dad doesn't need us to bow to him he didn't teach us to bow to him but I still bow to him because he's my father and he deserve the respect.

tintingz:
No, This is what you need sir.

Thank me later.

For you to have quoted me even tho I didn't mention you means you believe you need to be among the ones to be fumigated....Good.

FriendNG:


Oga NAS meyake damunka ne? Watx wrong with you.

I need Whistle blower.