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Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 10:49pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
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Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 10:50pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by SHEEGO2015(m): 10:52pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
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Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 10:56pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
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Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by BeeBeeOoh(m): 10:58pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Don't be surprised that 1 baboon will bring IPOB into dis matter.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by 912(m): 10:59pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
The oba of benin is the oba of benin and has no affiliation with the yoruba kings. The sharp variance in the customs, language, way of life and heritage of both tribes clearly shows that there is no hierachical connection between them. Besides if comments like these are coming from the palace of the oba of benin itself then it is clear that the binis dont consider themselves as yorubas |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:00pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
How I wish the poster's ethnicity had any history to share with the world. Unfortunately, there is none apart from the recorded barbaric act of cannibalising human beings and fighting for Adaora's hand in marriage in their hamlet square, as the best military warfare their forefathers ever had. 6 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Nobody: 11:01pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
This reminds me of that Eze that was flogged in Akure last year 2 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:01pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
912: Bini people were are and will never be Yorubas. But, the title, crown and throne of their King is ours because he is a descendant of the House of Oduduwa. He can never deny that fact. 4 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 11:04pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
What about Bini is close to Yoruba. I think Yorubas made up a myth that Oduduwa has the Oba of Bini as a son and sent him there to rule Bini people but 1. This is the only place in Africa where a yoruba has ever been sent to rule non-yorubas, representing a historic abnormality. In contrast, this was common practice of the Bini empire which sent it's generals to rule over its empire 2. No Yoruba empire extended past Yoruba land and it's in fact true that no yoruba empire ruled the whole of Yoruba land at any time in their history, let alone Bini. By contrast, Bini spread beyond their territory, and even ruled the majority of Yoruba land at one point. 3. Oduduwa is a mythical character, so to tell the history of living people through his 'lineage' is laughable. 4. Yoruba land lacked the military capacity of the Bini Empire, so it's odd that they could 'rule' bini people when even the Portugese documented that Bini was the soul power in coastal west africa. 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Lordave: 11:08pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
BeeBeeOoh: Super1Star:Baboon? Bigot! |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by anath(m): 11:11pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Benin ppl has just been ranting since this issue started. It is okay oooOoo lets make sleeping dog lie flat |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by 912(m): 11:11pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star: Bros oduduwa na story. How can someone come down from the sky? Lwkmd Use snail shell to create river and such use one hand full of sand to create land etc. haba dont tell me you believe all that sh!t. Its just a fictional character from an old yoruba tale. So the oba of benin that is a human being cannot be a decendant of a fictional character. Its funny that people who claim to be christians or muslims in this time and age still believe in this story |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:12pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Ikengawo: Mr Man because your Igbo culture lack history and it's highly deficient in one does not make everybody to be like descendants of Cain. Read up on Oyo empire. It extended to Ghana. Even the recalcitrant Ewe had to bow at last to our war machine. Do you know how many kingdoms were paying tributaries on a yearly basis to Alaafin? Read up. Just because Igbos never developed pass the hamlet status does not mean everyone was as backward as you. No wonder you are still babies in the art of politics and politicking. 4 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 11:12pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star: what house? Oduduwa is a mythical character. Every culture has a creation myth, but Greeks won't tell you that the Japanese are Greek because they descended from Zeus and expect others not to laugh. The Oba of Benin is using historic fact while the Yorubas are using mythology that's unverified. For example, why are non of the major yoruba kingdoms headed by 'Obas'. He proved that historically the Oba of Lagos even came after the 50s and that prior the title was Eleko of Lagos which is a 100% Bini title. The Portugese acknowledged that Eko (War Camp in Bini) was a Bini settlement when they arrived there. Why was lagos not involved in the Kirijiri Wars? Because they weren't Yoruba. Yoruba empires only ruled other Yoruba people. What's also interesting is that at no point in history did the Yoruba rule the Bini, but it's a historic fact that the Bini ruled over the Yoruba. So saying the Oba (bini title) is a Yoruba man even though the Bini ruled the Yoruba, is like saying that the Queen of England is an Hausa title because of some mythical character. 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Wadasco(m): 11:13pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
I concur 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Wadasco(m): 11:14pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
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Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:14pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
912: Is Jesus Xt birth a story? Is Mohammed a story? If not then Oduduwa too is not. Get your fact right and do not get it twisted, Oduduwa is not the divinity that came down from heaven. He was man turned to gods. The gods of orunmila, obatala and one other deities are the ones that came down from heaven to create the world. Don't get it twisted. You cannot comprehend what is beyond you. |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by SUBWAY101(m): 11:15pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Ikengawo: Typical Ibo man, they are always crying more than the bereaved. Smh 3 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Udmaster(m): 11:18pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star:sharap, are you people naturally obsessed with Igbos or what? Face the Benins and stop talking about IGBOS. NRI Kingdom is the Oldest Kingdom in Nigeria We are the descendant of ERI. We are Proudly IGBOS- Beautiful People with Noble Heritage. |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 11:18pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
There is no 'house of Oduduwa'. Prior to the creation of the 'western region' by the british the yoruba did not see themselves as one. There were no ties. There is in fact no title in Oyo that's the same in Ekiti, none in Ekiti that's the same in Ife etc. The 'oduduwa' mythology is something modern yorubas have emphasized to create historic legitimacy in uniting themselves as a people but it's thoroughly a myth. If there was a 'House of Oduduwa' it would be impossible to have a Kirijiri war. For example when Ibadan was ruling Ife by force, how can someone turn around and say that the Ooni of Ife at that time was being ruled by his historic 'son'? or that the Ooni was the apex ruler in Yoruba land? The people that speak yoruba today are not one. I believe many like Ekiti weren't even 'yoruba' but adopted the language after conquest and trade. Yoruba land is not one. 1. Tribal marks are distinct for every group within yoruba 2. A singular yoruba land that acknowledges the Ooni as the head wouldn't have so many competing empires that all subjugated the Ooni himself 3. At no point in history did the Yoruba function as a united force. Oyo, the largest yoruba speaking empire to ever arise didn't rule the whole of Yoruba land. 4. It has been historically proven that the Oba of Bini has ruled Yorubaland, but Yoruba land has never ruled Bini |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:19pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Ikengawo: What is this one saying that he is contradicting himself? If you believed there was a Jesus or Mohammed, that is your headache, we are not jes or Arabs. We are Yorubas, and we have our Oduduwa that lived and has been symbolised for centuries. that is only applicable to sophisticated cultures like the Greek, Romans, Egyptians, and not some inconsequential ethnicities that do not have any history whatsoever to share with the world. The same Yoruba was shipped and widely practised both as a culture and religion in the Carribeans. If you are pained that you are unlucky to be a part of people without history, take God to court. 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:20pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Udmaster: Who knows the Nri kingdom? Tell us the story of how an Igala prince impregnated your daughter nah?? We are listening. 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 11:24pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star: lol who told you I believe 'there was a jesus or a mohammed (mohammed is a historic figure and existed though, Jesus is debated by historians). I also don't care about how many of yourselves you sold as slaves as this isn't something to be proud of |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:25pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Ikengawo: See who is talking about slave trade when the capital of slave trade was your land and even osu caste was is and will forever be embedded in your barbaric way of life. 1 Like |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Udmaster(m): 11:26pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star:Nri Kingdom is Well Known. We IGBOS are more interested in our pre-colonial democracy style where Ndi ICHIE are like the Senate. - We are A Noble Tribe with a GREAT CULTURE. So face the benins and leave Igbos out of this issue. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Nri 2 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:26pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Lordave: Just like your lineage? |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Udmaster(m): 11:28pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Super1Star:Yorubas have the highest number of Slaves that was taken from West Africa during Slave Trade so don't go there. 2 Likes |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:31pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Udmaster: I am sure if the net could slap you, it would have with that "Noble" word you used. What is noble in you? What is the culture you are talking about, apart from dancing round the pot of boiling human being, hunting your fellas and selling them off as an Osu and at best fighting over Ngozi's hand in marriage in your hamlet square!!!! The level obscurity of your Nri in the annals of history is 2nd to none. |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:31pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Udmaster: I am sure if the net could slap you, it would have with that "Noble" word you used. What is noble in you? What is the culture you are talking about, apart from dancing the pot of boiling human being, hunting your fellas and selling them off as an Osu and at best fighting over Ngozi's hand in marriage in your hamlet square!!!! The level obscurity of your Nri in the annals of history is 2nd to none. |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Super1Star: 11:33pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
Udmaster: Despite that we successfully embedded our culture in the Carribeans till date. What did your slaves achieved? Not to even talk of your past present and future Osu castes. |
Re: Ooni Of Ife Is The Son Of Oba Of Benin Historically - Oba Of Benin by Ikengawo: 11:33pm On Feb 11, 2016 |
[size=30pt]Yoruba the Most Enslaved Ethnicity in Africa - University of Oxford[/size] The ancestors of current-day Yoruba people from West Africa (one of the largest African ethnic groups) provided the largest contribution of genes from Africa to all current-day American populations. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150324132224.htm 2 Likes |
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