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Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 2:11am On Feb 15, 2016
Okay, so . . . the saying goes, when a man goes looking for nothing, he find's what he does not expect. and this is certainly true in my case. I was browsing the internet and I landed on this CRAZY blog. apparently, It's from a radical feminist or something, and she has some pretty strange views. The basic point here is she is imagining an UTOPIA, a sort of future heaven on earth for women. or something. where the "patriarchy" is eliminated, and women are "liberated."

here it is. A bit long, but It's worth reading.

. . . If we managed to overcome men’s tyranny over us, how would we rebuild our world? I just want to throw some ideas here that I often come across these days. I dream for concrete, down-to-earth, simple and easily applicable measures of stepping out of patriarchy into a female-loving, biophilic world. This isn’t by any means a realistic plan of how to achieve it, but just reading it makes me feel happy. It makes it feel more real, more possible. Enjoy!

SOCIAL STRUCTURES

Men’s position in society

Before we do anything, the very first measure to adopt is to take all men out of all positions of decision-making immediately, and actually out of any kind of social, professional position whatsoever.

Major serial killers, serial torturers, pimps, pornographers, severe domestic abusers, serial rapists, genocide planners, biocide planners and pedocriminals across the world will simply be euthanised: the decisions will be taken by women in a mass world tribunal for patriarchal crimes. This is by far the best solution, and is the most legitimate, ethical way of reducing male population to more reasonable levels. Such men would otherwise forever pose a threat to women, children, animals, the earth and society as a whole, and we know they have no chance of ceasing their violent behaviour after having reached such an advanced stage of sadism and sociopathy. It would be reckless to spend space, resources and energy in keeping them alive in prisons.

All of men’s (alive and euthanised) belongings, property, resources and land will be confiscated from men and handed back to female care and supervision – property rights over land will be abolished. You can’t own land!

All men at least above 15 (or younger if very asocial) should live separately from women and children, on their own in small huts or studios, isolated from one another and scattered around so that women can keep an eye on them (they should never be in groups or packs, that would be illegal). So it would also be illegal for male adults to impose their presence on females, girls and children. Men would have to care for themselves on their own: food, laundry, etc. No male above his age of puberty would be allowed to receive any kind of service from a female. Their life expectancy would probably drop to the age of 40, but that’s how things should be. Women’s life expectancy without men would rise to 130 years at least.

PIV would be illegal too of course, as well as the initiation of any verbal or physical contact to women and girls or boy children, unless solicited by a woman for specific matters. I’m not sure what to do about boy children. Obviously you know my opinion, but let’s say that’s up to the mother to decide what she wants to do before he turns of age to leave the female family circle.

In order to keep all men and post-pubescent boys busy, we’d send them to clean up the vast amounts of detritus, pollution and toxic wastes men have littered and almost killed the world with. Much of the damage to the earth is irreversible, however with a great deal of effort and genius, women will find sustainable, natural and simple ways of healing a lot of the damage men have caused, and send men off to do the dirty work. No man will be allowed to take any decision without female guidance. We know what happens when men decide on their own! DISASTER.

Family, child-raising and reproduction

Fathers’ rights will cease to exist. There is no such thing as fatherhood — as we all know, it’s a myth. Men will necessarily lose all and any power to dominate and control women’s reproductive capacities.

It’s the inalienable right of each woman to control every phase of her reproduction and life creation. Abortion will be possible at any stage of pregnancy, however there will hardly be such a thing as undesired pregnancy since there won’t be any men forcing pregnancies on us any more. Abortion will nonetheless be recognised for the trauma, mutilation and loss of life that it is. The number of children and human population will naturally decrease to sustainable levels, so will the number of males born. Women will be free to experiment parthenogenesis or procreation with two female eggs.

The nuclear family will be abolished, in particular the parent’s property rights and absolute power over her child. Children will be considered as persons in need for autonomy and all form of punishment, authority or educational manipulation over children will equally be abolished. Raising and caring for children will be a collective responsibility for women, and motherhood / childcare and especially capacity to be empathetic towards children will be taken very seriously, as something that needs to be (re)learned and studied over years before being fully competent for this immense task.

Schools as we know them as punitive reclusion centres for grooming into male domination and female subordination (as well as selection system for elite executors of patriarchal institutions) will be abolished. Boys would definitely not be around the girls, certainly not most of the time, and never beyond the age of puberty. And obviously no adult male would be allowed near children.

There will be no such thing as “teachers” with positions of authority over children. “Guiders” could learn also from the children or students as much the students from them. We’d learn anything we’d want from languages to sciences to art to music to medicine to building to witchcraft to swimming (etc) without restriction of age or time, as long as it’s adapted to our capacities, level and availability. Learning would be autonomous, with guidance when needed, instead of enforced and dictated. They’d be no need for external reward, marking or punishment because the process of learning in itself is so rewarding and fascinating that it’s self-sufficient. Anyway I could go on and on, non-patriarchal learning is truly riveting.

Social structures between women.

All relationships of authority, domination and subordination will be abolished between all women of all ages. We will be able to recognise each other’s strengths, expertise, guidance and capacities (or lack of) without it implying superiority, inferiority, veneration or lack of respect. We would find each other beautiful. We would live our friendships, love and affection for women unhindered.

MEN’S INSTITUTIONS

All oppressive male institutions will be abolished after men have been retrieved from them. We obviously won’t keep these institutions. They will return to the nothingness that they belong, just as a distant, bad memory.

Military:

No more military, no more army, no more wars! It would be illegal for men to hold weapons. Global peace would be the immediate consequence. Most weapons will be destroyed (or recycled into something else), such as weapons of mass destruction, anti-personnel mines, tanks, machine guns, all manners of terrestrial, marine and air-bombers, and all the many disgusting things men have invented. For the remaining weapons such as guns or blades, women will hold exclusive right of use over them in order to defend ourselves from men, from the risk of them taking power over us again.

State:

States, borders, nations, laws would be abolished and totally dispensed with. Laws mentioning the number of prohibited acts will be kept for men only. Women do not need laws to contain ourselves. Laws were created by the male elite to protect their property from other men. Laws are rigid and static, that’s because their purpose is to hold existing patriarchal powers in place. Our own society would be in constant evolution, improvement, creative renewal, yet grounded in reality and adapted to our needs and circumstances.

Women would be able to move freely.

Societal structures and decision-making assemblies wouldn’t exceed roughly 300 women (representing no more than themselves). Keeping numbers low for cooperation is important because the greater the size of the unit, the more horizontal cooperation becomes difficult and requires vertical hierarchy. Possibilities for peaceful, cooperative organisation between women are infinite – as long as they respect the individual integrity of every female – the group should never weigh over the individual but be a source for support and efficient organisation of collective life and space. There could easily be associations of exchange between different groups and peoples in order for women to cooperate regionally and globally where necessary. There would be no limit in age of participation in decision-making for women and girls, which means adapting the format to different ages and capacities.

Medicine:

Men would be permanently banned from any kind of medical practice. All woman-hating, genocidal institutions such as gynecology, psychiatry, obstetrics, big pharma, the torture of living beings in the name of “scientific experimentation” will be banned. Men’s fragmented, objectifying, sadistic view the human body will be part of history, replaced by biophilic medicine. Medical science will no longer be monopolised by a small elite but available to all at any age where appropriate. The (female) doctor’s role will be to guide the patient in her own healing, never to exercise authority over her or take decisions at her expense. Special healing spaces (where surgery is necessary, etc) will be so nice, warm and welcoming that just being there will make you feel better. The soul and life conditions of a person will always be considered part of the body, and symptoms will always be understood in a holistic way. There will be no more chemical, synthetic and toxic products with often worse side effects than the illness itself it claims to heal.

Perfect health would be the normal state of women anyway, as we will learn by experience and observation what we should eat and do to stay healthy at all seasons and times. Most women will have rediscovered our healing, divination and extra-sensory communication powers.

Religion:

Patriarchal religions will crumble down with men’s oppressive system. Religious ideologies, along with its hierarchies and vacuous rituals will cease to exist. I believe a woman’s world would be spiritual. Spiritual connection isn’t based on faith but on critical observation and experience, on a real personal connection to the elements, beings and spirits that surround us, and on the real magnetic power of beings.

Economy (tied to ecology):

Obviously, Slavery, men’s exploitation of women, men’s capitalist systems will be abolished too. The most important aspect of male economy is that it’s based on men’s competitive accumulation of resources (by killing, destroying, commodifying, taking control over, extracting the greatest possible amount of life) and based on production of poisonous, addictive, programmed obsolescent goods — in order to win the patriarchal game of achieving greater domination over women and girls.

This necrophilic relationship to the world and the environment will be abolished, to be replaced by biophilic ecological and economic principles. This will encompass every single process of our life activities, from house building, to food consumption, to communication, travelling, furniture making, cooking, etc. They will have to be carefully designed and thought out in a way as to never endanger the survival of any species, never pollute any environment, never require the use of poisonous, non-recyclable materials, never to require indentured labour or exploitation in order to be maintained. This would obviously impact the nature and scale of our activities. “Work” (exploitation and division of labour) as we know it would disappear. It would be the responsibility of each individual or group to sustain herself more or less autonomously.

We should learn to observe our environment and deeply understand the interconnectedness of all beings around us, as well our own impact before deciding whether or how to transform it. Our lives have no more or no less value than those of a rabbit, fly, tree, plant, fish, seashell or stone. For instance, if we pick leaves of some plants, it’s important not to rip the whole plant off, to take only parts of it so it can grow again. Or to only take a few plants (or seashells, whatever) where there are many, so to respect the survival of the species where it is settled. If we cut trees to build our house, replant them. There are also infinite ways of making the most of materials for energy, food or production while using it as efficiently as possible. Building houses in ways that don’t require heating in winter or cooling in the summer. It is now widely known that energy such as electricity can be infinitely renewable if we use wind power, magnetic power, water power… And everything can be made DIY.

We will learn to be autonomous again and make our own clothes, food, furniture, houses, soaps, detergent products – or maybe someone else will make them but most things can be handmade and it’s so much more rewarding.

In a biophilic world, nothing is garbage, nothing is pollution. Everything is conceived so as to be part of a life cycle. This doesn’t mean we should keep the same toothbrush for 50 years or never improve on our machines, technology and infrastructure, but there’s no such thing as a dump, or toxic spilling. All materials should be harmless, recyclable or biodegradable, given back the earth if we no longer need them.

Industrial agriculture and farming:

Genetic modification of plants, pesticides, monoculture, field ploughing and consequent aridification of the land will be considered criminal. Our right to self-sustenance would no more be confiscated by mega food corporations – as they will no longer exist.

Agriculture should always be small-scale, local, and as much as possible be modelled on wildlife, self-growing / self-renewing conditions (the less work and intervention, the better), and especially be conceived so as to nourish and sustain rather than deplete wildlife and environmental balance. Again, possibilities are infinite, we have so much to learn.

And seriously, killing animals you’ve raised yourself in a farm or keeping animals enclosed is cruel. I’m for the liberation of all farm and domestic animals. It’s up to them to decide whether they want to live with us or not, and they should be able to come and go freely. Maybe after a few decades, after the human population has stalled, male population has decreased, and after we’ve made serious efforts for reforestation and restoration of wildlife on the earth, it would probably be fairer to hunt animals occasionally. Right now, given the extinction rate of animal species, I find it criminal to hunt or fish. We don’t need to eat that much meat anyway.
https://witchwind./2014/10/07/utopia-what-would-a-womens-society-look-like/

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by RobinHez(m): 8:32am On Feb 15, 2016
Let her go to one of the neighbouring planets and live this dream there.... undecided

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 12:31pm On Feb 15, 2016
What is the meaning of your user id?
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Feb 15, 2016
I read the whole thing. Most of it was rubbish, but I kind of agreed with the idea that men shouldn't be in control of women's reproductive anything, in fact.

You can find a crazy blog on the internet to support any and every kind of extremist theory so this should be no surprise.
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by ronald4lif(m): 1:38pm On Feb 15, 2016
Utter codswallop. No sense made and just some extreme man-hater and a lesbian lamenting her unjustified frustration and distorted imaginations of a better matriarchal world.

I only agree with her views on religion though. All religion, mysticism, faith and all body of dogmas should be abolished for a better progressive world. But her premise on the abolishing of religion is wrong and laced with misandristic opinion. Men are also slaves and casualties to sectarianism as much as women.

I can say a patriarchal world and society is not needed and unsuitable in today's world but disagree that matriarchy is the way forward as suggested by the writer. The world needs a balance of both gender for development and progressive society.

The author is no feminist in my opinion. She's just one misandrist, lesbian and female chauvinist. Her piece is barf worthy.

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by hahn(m): 7:04pm On Feb 15, 2016
It's a good idea.

Since the world we currently live in is male dominated, let's start by practising everything she wants to do to men on women grin

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Feb 15, 2016
The posters above me are gifted readers of long articles. Naija talents on point.
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 7:27pm On Feb 15, 2016
charix:
What is the meaning of your user id?
Sometimes, I ask myself the same question. sad sad
the Teempak was supposed to be the name of a company. but now, it just sounds retardded to me.

MrsPhyno:
I read the whole thing. Most of it was rubbish, but I kind of agreed with the idea that men shouldn't be in control of women's reproductive anything, in fact.
You can find a crazy blog on the internet to support any and every kind of extremist theory so this should be no surprise.
men can't be in control of women's reproductive anything. that is called rape and it is totally illegal.
Also, I think i've always knew that people can be totally crazy, but this just felt way too personal.

ronald4lif:
Utter codswallop. No sense made and just some extreme man-hater and a lesbian lamenting her unjustified frustration and distorted imaginations of a better matriarchal world.
I only agree with her views on religion though. All religion, mysticism, faith and all body of dogmas should be abolished for a better progressive world. But her premise on the abolishing of religion is wrong and laced with misandristic opinion. Men are also slaves and casualties to sectarianism as much as women.
I can say a patriarchal world and society is not needed and unsuitable in today's world but disagree that matriarchy is the way forward as suggested by the writer. The world needs a balance of both gender for development and progressive society.
The author is no feminist in my opinion. She's just one misandrist, lesbian and female chauvinist. Her piece is barf worthy.
I totally agree. she is not a normal feminist at all. this is borderline crazy.
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 3:15am On Feb 16, 2016
Teempakguy:


men can't be in control of women's reproductive anything. that is called rape and it is totally illegal.
Also, I think i've always knew that people can be totally crazy, but this just felt way too personal.


I totally agree. she is not a normal feminist at all. this is borderline crazy.
It may have felt personal indeed. Just realize that women feel that thing your feeling all the time, and we don't even have to go on some person's crazy blog to see it, people just spew stuff like that from their mouths, way too often. It's just rarer to see it towards/about men. Crazy people everywhere sha.

Totally illegal doesn't mean undone btw.

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Geofavor(m): 7:22am On Feb 16, 2016
MrsPhyno:

It may have felt personal indeed. Just realize that women feel that thing your feeling all the time, and we don't even have to go on some person's crazy blog to see it, people just spew stuff like that from their mouths, way too often. It's just rarer to see it towards/about men. Crazy people everywhere sha.

Totally illegal doesn't mean undone btw.
that Lady probably has no brother. And her X chromosomes were probably donated by anything but a man.
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 7:41am On Feb 16, 2016
Geofavor:

that Lady probably has no brother. And her X chromosomes were probably donated by anything but a man.
Lol don't take it personally.

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by YourCoffin: 9:03am On Feb 16, 2016
The girl is not even smart with her idea. She should have suggested that they build a very big sperm bank, milk the men of their sperms and then kill them all. Also, any mother that gives birth to a male child should kill him too. They would be making use of the sperms in the sperm bank until they figure out a way to achieve fertilization using two female eggs.

With this, all her problem will solved.

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Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Ralphdan(m): 1:17pm On Feb 16, 2016
Feministic Psychoism.
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by timilehing(m): 6:34pm On Feb 16, 2016
I'm a lazy reader, summary please grin
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 9:49pm On Feb 16, 2016
This is crazy .




that's all I can say smiley
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by hahn(m): 6:12am On Feb 17, 2016
timilehing:
I'm a lazy reader, summary please grin

Summary: Men are only good for their sperm cheesy
Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by Nobody: 6:22am On Feb 17, 2016
Salute her great stvpidity

Re: Nigerians, What Is Your Say On This? by CoolUsername: 9:18pm On Feb 19, 2016
As a feminist I'm cringing profusely at this article. Completely atrocious!

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