edi287:

Arteta will likely be more patient with him than say Allegri.

Humility017:


4 goals scored in Chinese league can't be compared to same feet...in Spain or England...
you all acting as if it is something spectacular....

TheGoodJoe:


Nacho played as a creative midfielder for a long time. There is no way from his academy days to the U17 he would play that role without the ability to dribble.

MetalJigsaw:
Oga, the 10/10 rating he earned clearly and rightly suggests that he was excellent and perfect.
Scoring four goals out of four shots in total is not a piece of cake, bro.

You said nothing spectacular in scoring 4 goals in China. But when Martins scored a hat trick in the same league una no let us hear word.

Carlos Tevez flopped in the same Chinese league. And Paulinho who is having a good season at barca arrived from China for your reminder.

This is not even Ighalo's first time of hitting four goals in a game

Humility017:


are you sure you not quotin the wrong person?

safarigirl:
I've had a lot of thinking time today and realised that I have erred a lot recently.

Without going into any unnecessary explanation, I would like to send an unreserved apology to andrew44 for my harsh words to him, I'm very sorry about the way everything escalated. Sorry for insulting your person, I allowed my ange get the best of me and I'm sorry.


I also want to apologise to sir komekn once again, for reading your intentions wrong. We don't always see eye to eye, so I may have read your posts with a biased eye. I sincerely apologise for that and j promise that it will never happen again.


I also want to apologise to this thread and its members for all the drama this week. I was responsible for derailing this thread and failing to respect the opinions of some members. So, I apologise to everyone.

As much as I can, I will refrain from getting into any confrontations on this thread henceforth.

Joebie:
That's exactly what I'm trying to say.. our first 11 always come against familiar competition. Let them see fresh faces here and there, and they won't be too comfortable. They all have to show at game time that they deserve to start in the subsequent match. Any slack, there should be a player ready to take their spot. I think that would bring out the best in the team.

Modified
I'm not particularly a Rohr critic but I think many players in the team are too comfortable..

Joebie:
That's exactly what I'm trying to say.. our first 11 always come against familiar competition. Let them see fresh faces here and there, and they won't be too comfortable. They all have to show at game time that they deserve to start in the subsequent match. Any slack, there should be a player ready to take their spot. I think that would bring out the best in the team.

Modified
I'm not particularly a Rohr critic but I think many players in the team are too comfortable..

Humility017:


4 goals scored in Chinese league can't be compared to same feet...in Spain or England...
you all acting as if it is something spectacular....

tbaba1234:
Many of our top quality players in Europe did not come from the league.. They were directly picked from academies across Nigeria.

For instance, It took Awaziem less than a year of leaving Nigeria to make Porto's first team. It shows that the talent is in Nigeria but our NPFL clubs are not doing proper scouting... We do a lot of recycling players.

I look at most of the Nigerian stars coming up, very few played in the NPFL.

MetalJigsaw:
That's not true. Dribblers ate players like Moses, S. Kalu, Onyekuru, S. Moses. Nacho doesn't really know how to dribble. Just little ability at best

tbaba1234:
Saw highlights of Hull vs Bristol City..

I was very disappointed with Ola Aina's defensive awareness... No surprise, he was subbed at half-time..

He has had some good games this season so maybe he just had an off day..

tbaba1234:
Saw highlights of Hull vs Bristol City..

I was very disappointed with Ola Aina's defensive awareness... No surprise, he was subbed at half-time..

He has had some good games this season so maybe he just had an off day..

TheGoodJoe:


How can you even say this? There are people who watched Mikel at Chelsea, who did not watch him during his junior years playing for Nigeria, who will believe Mikel lacks little to know ability to dribble or play with flair. That is the same way with Nacho. He plays with a direct pattern and relies more on intelligent passing to unlock defences. That does not mean he can not dribble.

Look at the skill Nacho pulled off in the game against Sporting Kansas City in the video below, from 2:22. A player with little dribbling ability can never pull that skill off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCwL-O8kPQ

MetalJigsaw:
You have just vindicated my point, bro. If Nacho is actually a dribbler as you calim, why did you have to dig so deep to recall just one skill he displayed about 5 years ago?.. Is he not still playing? why not show us a game where he dribbled his markers at least three times.

Look at V. Moses for example, he was among the best dribblers in the last game against Burnley... I think second or so.
And this occurs almost regularly.

I'm surprisedthat someone is arguing on this obvious fact.

A dribbler is one that REGULARLY or USUALLY ( not seldom), confidently and enterprisingly confronts his marker with the daring and direct aim of getting past him with a piece of skill or trickery.

I don't know how you see Nacho in this category.

Messi, Mahrez, Hazard, V. Moses, Samuel Kalu, Simone Moses, Onyekuru. Robben, Neymar etc are examples

MetalJigsaw:
You have just vindicated my point, bro. If Nacho is actually a dribbler as you calim, why did you have to dig so deep to recall just one skill he displayed about 5 years ago?.. Is he not still playing? why not show us a game where he dribbled his markers at least three times.

Look at V. Moses for example, he was among the best dribblers in the last game against Burnley... I think second or so.
And this occurs almost regularly.

I'm surprisedthat someone is arguing on this obvious fact.

A dribbler is one that REGULARLY or USUALLY ( not seldom), confidently and enterprisingly confronts his marker with the daring and direct aim of getting past him with a piece of skill or trickery.

I don't know how you see Nacho in this category.

Messi, Mahrez, Hazard, V. Moses, Samuel Kalu, Simone Moses, Onyekuru. Robben, Neymar etc are examples

MetalJigsaw:
I need one bro. How did you do it

TheGoodJoe:


Your first line shows you do not even understand the point. I did not and never said Nacho is a dribbler. Nacho does not utilize dribbling to cause damage. I am pointing out that the notion he can not dribble is false.

The statement Iheanacho can not dribble is wrong. The statement that Iheanacho has limited dribbling ability is wrong. He has the ability and can pull them off. He does not rely on them.

Mickael2:



Every footballer can dribble. Pique has pulled off some insane dribbles once or twice it isn't special. Iheanacho's dribbling ability is very limited, how is that an argument

Mickael2:



Every footballer can dribble. Pique has pulled off some insane dribbles once or twice it isn't special. Iheanacho's dribbling ability is very limited, how is that an argument

TheGoodJoe:


How can you even say this? There are people who watched Mikel at Chelsea, who did not watch him during his junior years playing for Nigeria, who will believe Mikel lacks little to know ability to dribble or play with flair. That is the same way with Nacho. He plays with a direct pattern and relies more on intelligent passing to unlock defences. That does not mean he can not dribble.

Look at the skill Nacho pulled off in the game against Sporting Kansas City in the video below, from 2:22. A player with little dribbling ability can never pull that skill off.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCwL-O8kPQ

Chrismario:


Nacho can dribble, no doubt but that doesn't mean he's a good dribbler.

How often can he pull that?

Nacho don't really like to 'play with ball'. If you watch him, his pattern is more of give me make give you or another person.

He's a good scorer and can give some excellent passes but as for dribbling? No, he is not!

Chrismario:


Nacho can dribble, no doubt but that doesn't mean he's a good dribbler.

How often can he pull that?

Nacho don't really like to 'play with ball'. If you watch him, his pattern is more of give me make give you or another person.

He's a good scorer and can give some excellent passes but as for dribbling? No, he is not!

Mujtahida:

I am ooo. Got an 7 months old daughter born on my birthday.

TheGoodJoe:


At least the story has change from Nacho can not dribble to his is not a good dribbler. The fact is, he has the skills in his locker. It is not a big part of his game.

Finito.

TheGoodJoe:


At least the story has change from Nacho can not dribble to his is not a good dribbler. The fact is, he has the skills in his locker. It is not a big part of his game.

Finito.

tbaba1234:


Well, that is what his stats say, I have not watched him.. Only seen clips.

Loogan:

Iheanacho in the last match was one liecester highest dribblers with three successful dribbles that's about the most recent. Nacho is not just a good dribbler he is a very good one as a matter of fact, he dosent play on the wings like the guys you mentioned above he plays centrally. Even world beaters like Suarez who is an excellent dribbler has to limit his dribbling because his job is to get goals, same with Nacho.
[/b]Nacho U-17 was Very skillful and his style was similar to how mahrez plays[b].

Kog45:
Sir i don't know why all this fuss about Iheanacho,sometimes some berate him unnecessarily and some praise him excessively and to get balance view on him is always difficult here.

One thing is certain he is a baller whether he can dribble or not,is Ronaldo a dribbler?but Messi he is and the two are the best with 5 ballon d'or for the past 10 years.

I think Nacho cannot dribble should not be an issue but if someone says he cannot score then we talk

Iheanacho is a scorer not a dribbler.

Kog45:
Well you are right but did you know that Awaziem spent good four years with El kanemi of Maiduguri team B and A before joined Porto in 2014.

And took him two years to break into Porto team A in 2016 due to injury to one of the defender and later moved back to team B before getting a good loan to Nantes.