TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind some of these guys. Mikel did create some chances. And what Okocha said is nonsense. He is talking trash about accommodating Mikel. Who else can bring calm to our midfield the way Mikel does?

And guess who Mikel battled and won the ball off at that corner... it was Luka Modric himself. Both of them had a keen battle throughout the duration of the game. Mikel matched Modric throughout.

somehow:


Says a man who couldn't answer the question asked him.

phreakabit:



You are validating my argument here.
You can't have two CM's in a 4-2-3-1 hence the advanced CM becomes a CAM. . .
BTW did you notice Ozil's role in todays game? That's down to the formation the coach deploys.

TheSuperNerd:
Well sorry the question was asked by one who doesn't understand Winger-fullback interplays down a flank in attacking transitions. So uhmmm sorry.

kennysville:


I beg to disagree sir. Okocha is a legend in the game. And you will agree with me that the duel you referred to involving Mikel and Modric, Modric beat him with his pace. I watched Mikel struggle with pace, something a speedster would av done with ease.

Mikel played well yesterday but frankly, wrongly deployed against a formidable midfield of Croatia. If you ask me, since we knew that croatia boasts of a very robust midfield, I would have expected we played Mikel in front of the defence with Ndidi as he reads games better from that position. Even if we wanted to play the 4-2-3-1, it could still work but mikel is not a speedster (if only you know the distance you have to cover from one half to the other, you will know Mikel is not the man for AM)

Play people according to what they are good at .... if you have to hurt some feelings, so be it. Now we see why some managers bench some players especially the result driven ones. Mikel has been conditioned to be a defensive midfielder for the last 13 years, it is only logical to see he cant keep up with the pace in the front 3

While I am not saying we could have beaten croatia last night, well it wouldnt at least be a bad idea if we didnt lose. Cos frankly Croatia didnt boss us in any way in my own opinion. The conservatism of Rorh at launching a full frontal attack on teams is what is costing the team. Plus i feel he doesnt wanna ruffle some feathers hence the constant featuring of some players even though their end products leave a lot to be desired of

goldfish80:
The German team is the perfect example why you don't pick a team on sentiments.
Neuer isn’t back to full fitness, a fit Neuer saves that goal.
Khedira shouldn’t be starting not with Can on the team.
Boateng hasn’t played all season and he has been lumbering in this match.

somehow:


Says a man who still cant answer his definition is limited to just the eagles even though both teams play the same formation

Bolowolowo:


I'd wait until lineups and formation is released to be making such statements. I love my GWG, but I don't know about moving on...

Hmmm, thoughtful. Let's hope for the best sir.

kennysville:


I beg to disagree sir. Okocha is a legend in the game. And you will agree with me that the duel you referred to involving Mikel and Modric, Modric beat him with his pace. I watched Mikel struggle with pace, something a speedster would av done with ease.

Mikel played well yesterday but frankly, wrongly deployed against a formidable midfield of Croatia. If you ask me, since we knew that croatia boasts of a very robust midfield, I would have expected we played Mikel in front of the defence with Ndidi as he reads games better from that position. Even if we wanted to play the 4-2-3-1, it could still work but mikel is not a speedster (if only you know the distance you have to cover from one half to the other, you will know Mikel is not the man for AM)

Play people according to what they are good at .... if you have to hurt some feelings, so be it. Now we see why some managers bench some players especially the result driven ones. Mikel has been conditioned to be a defensive midfielder for the last 13 years, it is only logical to see he cant keep up with the pace in the front 3

While I am not saying we could have beaten croatia last night, well it wouldnt at least be a bad idea if we didnt lose. Cos frankly Croatia didnt boss us in any way in my own opinion. The conservatism of Rorh at launching a full frontal attack on teams is what is costing the team. Plus i feel he doesnt wanna ruffle some feathers hence the constant featuring of some players even though their end products leave a lot to be desired of

somehow:
Been following the Mexicans during qualifiers and friendly matches, they're very underated. they play as a unit. try getting to catch some of their recent matches to get the drift.

edi287:

No I'm not. You can not call a DLP a "10". 10s are Trequestira and create much closer to goal. Xavi creates from deep.
You can have CMs. When Elneny plays with Xhaka, both don't bomb forward as much as Ramsey does. So its obviously a tactical thing.
Xavi is closer to a Regista than a 10.

TheSuperNerd:
Still harping the same song mister. Just accept you are ignorant on this one. It is still okay. You don't know because you don't know. This is why you hail a poor offensive Shehu. Please allow me to speak on better matters if you refuse to understand simple football concepts. Thank you.

TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind some of these guys. Mikel did create some chances. And what Okocha said is nonsense. He is talking trash about accommodating Mikel. Who else can bring calm to our midfield the way Mikel does?

And guess who Mikel battled and won the ball off at that corner... it was Luka Modric himself. Both of them had a keen battle throughout the duration of the game. Mikel matched Modric throughout.

TheSuperNerd:
I know much about the Mexicans. Thank you.

goldfish80:

You cannot rule out friendly matches with a stroke of pen. France were not so good in friendlies and it showed in their first game in Russia. Germany weren't convincing in their friendlies and you are seeing how they are struggling today.

Icon4s:


I seriously faulted Okocha on that his comment of Mikel being accommodated in the team.

He even answered out of context on what Zola asked him.

Zola wanted to know which role(position) Mikel will play in the team. Very simple question. Okocha started saying all those accommodation stuff. Making it seem as if Mikel has been a burden to the team.

His answer simply shows his level of knowledge about that team.

komekn:


Let's face some hard truths. We played without any sense of conviction, no passion and no real desire.

Our players are mostly average that's the REALITY.

I noticed that Etebo, Ebuehi and Balogun signed new contracts well before the World cup.Oftem players do not commit until after the World cup anticipating that thier market value will go up after a good World cup.

But almost if they have assumed that we were never going to anything. These players decided to sign up now and not later. I am sure after this display Balogun would have been omitted from the list of wanted players

I am watching Mexico play with DETERMINATION, CONVICTION, PASSION, DESIRE, COHESION, DISCIPLINE and BELIEF.

All the things we did not show forger whether you play in Odogbolu or Real Madrid. Play with the belief you can win or do not turn up. This is the WORLD CUP for goodness sake, what more motivation do you need.

Icon4s:


I seriously faulted Okocha on that his comment of Mikel being accommodated in the team.

He even answered out of context on what Zola asked him.

Zola wanted to know which role(position) Mikel will play in the team. Very simple question. Okocha started saying all those accommodation stuff. Making it seem as if Mikel has been a burden to the team.

His answer simply shows his level of knowledge about that team.

He left Zola gazing because he didn't address the question.

TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind some of these guys. Mikel did create some chances. And what Okocha said is nonsense. He is talking trash about accommodating Mikel. Who else can bring calm to our midfield the way Mikel does?

And guess who Mikel battled and won the ball off at that corner... it was Luka Modric himself. Both of them had a keen battle throughout the duration of the game. Mikel matched Modric throughout.

Bolowolowo:
Is anyone currently watching the German game? Where the hell did our passion go? After the Saudis, people are saying we're the worst team...

edi287:

Mikel should have been deployed deeper yesterday. I don't understand why people aren't seeing this. We got away with it at the WCQs but I always knew it'd be difficult in the WC proper.
We needed Iwobi and Etebo ahead with Ighalo to press while Mikel dictates from deep. We know Mikel's stamina is poor so why make him have to drop back deep anyways when he can start from deep, save his energy from running up and down and dictate??

elyte89:




Mikel matched modric


The.Supernerd abeg give me DT meme wet one woman open her mouth for one ceremony

phreakabit:


This is absolutely ridiculous!
The terms you use are just terms created by Italian tacticians!
They do not apply generally.
Elneny plays as a CM with Xhaka in the absence of Whilshere!
When Xhaka is absent Elneny becomes the 4!
Okocha played as a 10 in a 4-4-2 formation, but was always deep in the midfield and pushed the attack from the depth!

Just to illustrate

=======================9
=================8 (SS/CAM)
====11 ========================== 7
============10

=========================4

PS: You might want to check Arsenals forum goonersworld.co.uk to ask what Xhaka actually plays as. He is a DM, a piss poor one though.

goldfish80:

How did their victory come about?was it not a fluke goal and a soft penalty they won the game with? Do you know how heavily critical the French public are of this present team and manager?
Pogba is under heavy fire from the French media for the limp performance against Australia. Bros, let's not derail this thread.

somehow:


You're getting worked up already, it's just a friendly conversation.

Lets end everything here then.

Enjoy your day bro.

Humility017:

not with Ighalo again please...
why can't you guys see that...the dude is a clueless when it comes to goal scoring...

JoebieII:
@ bolded.. thank you!

edi287:

Gbam! That's what people don't understand. It's not the loss that's hurting me but the lack of effort and how easy Croatia found this game. Croatia didn't need to play well to win. We didn't threaten them enough. That's the major disappointment for me. Rohr is tactically useless.

phreakabit:


This is absolutely ridiculous!
The terms you use are just terms created by Italian tacticians!
They do not apply generally.
Elneny plays as a CM with Xhaka in the absence of Whilshere!
When Xhaka is absent Elneny becomes the 4!
Okocha played as a 10 in a 4-4-2 formation, but was always deep in the midfield and pushed the attack from the depth!

Just to illustrate

=======================9
=================8 (SS/CAM)
====11 ========================== 7
============10

=========================4

PS: You might want to check Arsenals forum goonersworld.co.uk to ask what Xhaka actually plays as. He is a DM, a piss poor one though.