Mickael2:


you are using a written formation to judge? Well Messi is registered as a LWF for Barca but where do you see him most of the time? You have to watch this games to understand that Sanchez is the member of the pair who drops to midfield to collect passes straight from the midfielders and feed to Vargas, I wil recommend the Brazil vs Chile game at the world cup and also the Chile vs Argentina games at the two previous Copas, watch them and check Sanchez's position. Sanchez is the SS there, but at arsenal he is the lone CF, that's two extremely different positions and thats the GoodJoe's point, he is adjusting to it

Mickael2:



I even forgot Elneny ooo, wow! That means a quality backup for every single position. The future is bright

safarigirl:
Iwobi wouldn't make City's first 11 either. That is also a fact.

So before we all jump on the Iwobi is better than Kelechi bandwagon, let us remember who they have to bench.

Iwobi is benching Ox, Kelechi will have to bench Aguero, hardly the same class of players,.


Why are we even having this argument? Pitting brothers against each other...mtchew, please let's leave Iwobi and focus on the Kelechi vs Rashford arguments. Who's that person that said Iwobi will win CAF APOTY before Kelechi? Na you start this rubbish argument.

goldfish80:

I can't believe you're still arguing this. If you know how to read a formation properly you will see clearly that he's akone forward in this formation. And this was gotten from the FIFA 2014 world cup archive.

forgiveness:
Comparing Sanchez to Iheanacho is preposterous.

Sanchez no be small pikin 4 this business. Someone who has... Abeg! abeg! Make we find something better talk. Iheanacho has not achieved anything yet as a professional footballer.


Let us leave the lad before dem begin envy am, biko.

TheGoodJoe:


I hope we get it right. I mean City. We have some brilliant creative players like De Bruyne, Silva, Gundogan and Sane. My fear is the DMF. It seems we are over working Fernandinho. I am not sure if Fernando can perform close to that level.

TheGoodJoe:


That is not a 3-5-2 formation. Mickael2 talked about the 3-5-2 set up with two strikers. When you see Sanchez play up front, know there is a challenge up front. Like an injured striker or a case of the striker not performing.

He is not a Natural striker. He can play up front.

TheGoodJoe:


That is not a 3-5-2 formation. Mickael2 talked about the 3-5-2 set up with two strikers. When you see Sanchez play up front, know there is a challenge up front. Like an injured striker or a case of the striker not performing.

He is not a Natural striker. He can play up front.

Mickael2:


where is Yaya toure? I mean is it really that sour between him and Pep?

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

safarigirl:
Iwobi wouldn't make City's first 11 either. That is also a fact.

So before we all jump on the Iwobi is better than Kelechi bandwagon, let us remember who they have to bench.

Iwobi is benching Ox, Kelechi will have to bench Aguero, hardly the same class of players,.


Why are we even having this argument? Pitting brothers against each other...mtchew, please let's leave Iwobi and focus on the Kelechi vs Rashford arguments. Who's that person that said Iwobi will win CAF APOTY before Kelechi? Na you start this rubbish argument.

TheGoodJoe:


On that same thread, someone said,

Mikel is not a playmaker.Xavi and Paul Scholes are playmakers.
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I replied.

Do you think when Manchester United and Chelsea were battling for Mikel, they were battling for a defensive Midfielder. <doh>

Mikel might even be better than the above names, if he is allowed to play in his preferred position.

I watched Xavi Hernandez in the World Youth Championship in Nigeria '99. Which was in my country. Ronaldhino and Xavi played in my City Port-Harcourt (Funny both played together in Barca and won the Champions League). So I watched Xavi closely and he was brilliant. I tell you Xavi didn't show the kind of Talent Mikel showed in 2005. <doh>

TheGoodJoe:


I do not see the fact here. The same Giroud and Perez that Wenger chose to convert Sanchez to help the toothless attack.

TheGoodJoe:


On that same thread, someone said,

Mikel is not a playmaker.Xavi and Paul Scholes are playmakers.
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I replied.

Do you think when Manchester United and Chelsea were battling for Mikel, they were battling for a defensive Midfielder. <doh>

Mikel might even be better than the above names, if he is allowed to play in his preferred position.

I watched Xavi Hernandez in the World Youth Championship in Nigeria '99. Which was in my country. Ronaldhino and Xavi played in my City Port-Harcourt (Funny both played together in Barca and won the Champions League). So I watched Xavi closely and he was brilliant. I tell you Xavi didn't show the kind of Talent Mikel showed in 2005. <doh>

edi287:

Alexis has played as a CF in barca a couple of times and also plays as a striker for chile.
Lucas Perez scored 17 and assisted 10 in a relegation threatened Deportivo side. Iheanacho might end up surpassing both (most likely will), but at this moment, he isn't better than Giroud and Perez. Come on!

goldfish80:

Xavi was a late bloomer. At his early stage he was just an average player.

TheGoodJoe:


I disagree. Xavi was not a late bloomer. Started playing for Barcelona in the late nineties as a teen. It falls to playing him to the best of his abilities.

It takes a brilliant player at a young age to make the starting line-up of Barcelona.

Note, I said Xavi was brilliant. He was the third best player in Nigeria '99 behind Ikedia and Seydou Keita.

goldfish80:

You seem to misinterprete me. I pointed out that you told someone that Mikel is an attacking midfielder and the best in that role and must not be dropped. I believe you were referring to forgiveness because he listed his favoured team list and omitted Mikel.
My point is that if you belive mikel is an attacking midfielder, then you shouldnt have much problems seeing Sanchez as a striker because both interpret different roles for their clubs and country. That's my point

goldfish80:

As a late bloomer I meant he didn't really start out as an infant sensation like Saviola, Bojan, Messi, Dos Santos etc.. He quietly rose through the ranks and hit the limelight in his mid 20's

goldfish80:

A lot of people underrate Giroud because he's not a fancy player but I tell you what, that guy has been top scorer in the French league before he came to England. He infact guided a modest and an unfancied Montpellier to win the French league against more traditional teams like Psg, marseille, Lyon etc... At the national team level, he has scored 20+ goals in 57games and most of them as a substitute.
Truth is that Kelechi is good, no doubt but to say he is better than ever international striker at arsenal is not being realistic atall. Kelechi is just starting out, he may surpass the achievement of all the Arsenal strikers put together including Henry. But he has not done that yet. This is just his second year as a pro.
We should be careful how we hype him, otherwise, he may never fulfil his potential because he may start thinking he has arrived which may be his downfall. Let's not fall into the hype-machine that is the English media and allow our players grow quietly.

TheGoodJoe:


He was an infant sensation. In the WYC, he was a teenager and one of the best players in the competition. I think he was still a teen in the Sidney 2000 Olympics.

If I remember right, Xavi was one of the players who was selected in 1998 to play against Nigeria. In the Catalonia vs Nigeria that they won us 5-0. He was always a prolific star.

Mickael2:


He didn't say he will bench Sanchez, he just said he will alter the formation. De Bruyne is not benching Silva at Man city, the coach just altered the formation to accommodate the two of them which is what will happen with Nacho and Sanchez, thats the point

Napoleon55:

Is Sanches Ronaldo or Messi as he claims,that Iheanacho cannot b compared to him.
Whatever Sanches have achieved in the game,Nacho will overtake him in 4 years time

tbaba1234:


Common the team that face catalona in 98 included.. Jero Shakpoke, Duke Udi, Sanni Abacha, etc.. The only established players was Adepoju and grab lawal.

That is not enough to say Xavi was a infant sensation. Xavi played in Nigeria 99. He was not amongst the best players in the competition even though spain won.

goldfish80:

Sanchez is a recognised striker for his country who he has represented 100times. Durring the Olympics, you were creaming yourself how well Mikel played. You argued and almost torn apart Forgiveness who believed Mikel is not an attacking midfielder but when the tables turn, you change the argument to suit your idea because just like Mikel, Alexis plays a different role for his club and another for his country.

tbaba1234:


Common the team that face catalona in 98 included.. Jero Shakpoke, Duke Udi, Sanni Abacha, etc.. The only established players was Adepoju and grab lawal.

That is not enough to say Xavi was a infant sensation. Xavi played in Nigeria 99. He was not amongst the best players in the competition even though spain won.