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Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ItuExchange(m): 8:30pm On Apr 20, 2016
Let's strip away all of the NATO member nations, save one, then let's strip away any mechanized, aerial and naval advantages that this one member nation has over Russia in numbers. In other words, since the United States has 13,892 aircraft (of all types), and Russia has only 3,429, we'll roll America's total aircraft back to meet Russia's deficiency. We'll do the same for aircraft carriers (Russia has one), submarines, attack helicopters and destroyers (Where America's numbers crush Russia's).

I've just rolled back the majority of the total United States military weaponry to match up with Russia's. Now I'll tell you why the United States would still overpower and defeat Russia in a conventional war.

Before I do this, however, I want to take a moment to clarify why the U.S. has looked weaker in recent years than it actually is. We have been fighting an overwhelmingly unconventional war with conventional weapons. There hasn't been a place on a map called Talibania or Al-Qaedaland for the U.S. to attack, and so for years we've had to bring a conventional military to bear on an unconventional target. Tanks, artillery and naval ships aren't ideal tools to snuff out small numbers of fanatics living in cave networks and attacking among non-combatants in towns taken and lost within mere hours.

A conventional war with Russia, however, is precisely what the U.S. Military is designed for, and in that regard, I'll proceed.

The cost to maintain, modify and operate all of this war-ready equipment would pulverize an already weak Russian economy. It costs approximately $70,000.00 to maintain an F-22 Raptor after only one hour of flight time. Here are some other examples of what the cost to maintain aircraft for one hour of flight would be:

B-1B Lancer Bomber - $57,807.00
B-2A Spirit Stealth Bomber - $169,313.00
C-5B Galaxy Cargo Plane — $78,817
E-3B Sentry AWACS Radar Plane — $39,587
F-15C Eagle Fighter — $41,921
F-16C Viper Fighter — $22,514
HH-60G Pave Hawk Helicopter — $24,475
MQ-1B Predator Drone — $3,679
RQ-4B Global Hawk Drone — $49,089
AC-130U Spooky Gunship — $45,986
(I'm using cost data for the United States, because I do not have the precise numbers for costs for Russian aircraft, but given Russia's economic situation, even costs for far less expensive-to-maintain aircraft would be brutal for them economically.)

For every hour of time one of these aircrafts are in use, you can expect maintenance time to be a minimum of five hours (often far more). This enormous maintenance cost goes for all mechanized and naval operations as well, and it certainly goes for any aircraft belonging to the Russian Air Force (see the MiG-29 link below in Sources).

Economics

The United States had one of the fastest recoveries from the global recession of any other nation on Earth (only Germany's was quicker), demonstrating its economic flexibility and overall financial health. The USD is the global standard currency. It's true that, currently, our total debt exceeds our GDP, and it's also true that the total debt looks rather staggering (most of that debt is money we owe ourselves), and it's also true that economists are concerned with our current dependency ratio, but America is still an economic titan with total assets in the neighborhood of $230 trillion. She's far better situated economically upon closer inspection.

Given the tremendous economic struggles Russia has been dealing with due to a foundering economy, global economic sanctions and the plummeting price of oil, their own economic situation is decidedly grim, by comparison. I find it unlikely indeed that they've been able to adequately maintain the vehicle collective that makes up their own military (gaskets dry rot, oil leaks, o-rings crack and fail), so the open question is: what do they even have that is war-ready, and how long can they keep it operational in a theater of war?

Source: https://www.quora.com/Does-NATO-stand-a-chance-in-a-war-against-Russia


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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 11:33pm On Apr 20, 2016
Wrong question.
The question should be- Does Russia stand a chance in a war against NATO?

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Pennsylvania: 11:41pm On Apr 20, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Wrong question.
The question should be- Does Russia stand a chance in a war against NATO?

Perfect question.

Does the OP even know what NATO is, and does he also know that of recent Saudi Arabia has over taken Russia in terms of military strength? Why do you think Obama wants Saudi as an ally?
Wake up Op, Russia doesn't stand a chance!

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Nobody: 12:09am On Apr 21, 2016
Pennsylvania:




Does the OP even know what NATO is, and does he also know that of recent Saudi Arabia has over taken Russia in terms of military strength?


So in your deluded mind, Saudi Arabia can withstand Russia in a conventional warfare? The same Saudi Army that is suffering humiliating defeat in Yemen - with the Yemeni opposition launching attacks on Saudi territory, capturing Saudi towns & settlements along the border?

Y are all these Amerikan zombies so annoyingly vacuous like this?

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 12:33am On Apr 21, 2016
Pennsylvania:


Perfect question.

Does the OP even know what NATO is, and does he also know that of recent Saudi Arabia has over taken Russia in terms of military strength? Why do you think Obama wants Saudi as an ally?
Wake up Op, Russia doesn't stand a chance!
Saudi Arabia overtook Russia only in Defense Spending and not military strength.

Russia won't see the light of the day in a war with NATO undecidedI expect my brothers from the other side will quote me on this.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Underground: 12:51am On Apr 21, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Saudi Arabia overtook Russia only in Defense Spending and not military strength.

Russia won't see the light of the day in a war with NATO undecidedI expect my brothers from the other side will quote me on this.

Then they should by all means attack Russia. I don't get all this posturing and chest beating from afar. All we hear is Russian aggression, Russian aggression!

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by iyb(m): 3:41am On Apr 21, 2016
Russia can defend itself against nato but cannot win a conventional war with nato America will be the deciding factor

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Jokay07(m): 9:39am On Apr 21, 2016
NATO and Russia war? A war with Nato is an indirect war with Russia. Russia must have wasted a lot of military resources on Nato before they would take on America and by the time America start rolling out their MACHINES, lolaazzzzzgrin grin
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Nobody: 10:17am On Apr 21, 2016
In a full-scale war between Nato & Russia - Russia won't be standing alone, and not all the NATO states would participate for fear of being nuked into oblivion.

Ukraine, Poland & the baltic states would be overran within 3 days - Ask Putin grin

Israel & South Korea would be obliterated within the first week of the war by Iran & North Korea respectively. I trust Germany to stay neutral grin

Before NATO deploys, Russia would have siezed atleast half of the entire Europe. Have you seen the demonstration of Khibiny & Krasukha-4? Any Amerikan or NATO Naval fleet that comes close to 300km radius of the Baltic & the Black Sea will be rendered comatose.

Let's just say by the time Russia deploys half of her Nuclear warheads; the entire North America, Europe & some Middle-Eastern Countries (Saudi, Qatar, Jordan) would have been completely erased. You must remember that Russia does not need any foreign military base to reach any Country in Heaven & on Earth.

All ICBMs & SLBMs launched towards Russia would be deflected & given false targets.

Y do you think Russia is expending huge amount of funds on Electronic Warfare devices? We have seen how effective these EW devices have proven to be both in Ukraine & Syria.

Don't be deceived by Amerika's military propaganda. Amerika & Nato will burn the day they engage Russia in War, and by time the war is over, the World population would have been drastically reduced from 9Billion to 350Million. grin

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 21, 2016
Pennsylvania:


Perfect question.

Does the OP even know what NATO is, and does he also know that of recent Saudi Arabia has over taken Russia in terms of military strength? Why do you think Obama wants Saudi as an ally?
Wake up Op, Russia doesn't stand a chance!
Saudi Arabia overtook Russia in military ranking? grin grin grin grin You guys are really funny. Keep trying to convince yourself that Russia can actually be defeated.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 12:18pm On Apr 21, 2016
grin cheesy
Don't mind them
The Germany I know now Will never involve in any war cos the last time they did it
Their population reduced like nothing
Germany is reducing her military population now
Russia don't make noise like America grin
Zoharariel:
In a full-scale war between Nato & Russia - Russia won't be standing alone, and not all the NATO states would participate for fear of being nuked into oblivion.

Ukraine, Poland & the baltic states would be overran within 3 days - Ask Putin grin

Israel & South Korea would be obliterated within the first week of the war by Iran & North Korea respectively. I trust Germany to stay neutral grin

Before NATO deploys, Russia would have siezed atleast half of the entire Europe. Have you seen the demonstration of Khibiny & Krasukha-4? Any Amerikan or NATO Naval fleet that comes close to 300km radius of the Baltic & the Black Sea will be rendered comatose.

Let's just say by the time Russia deploys half of her Nuclear warheads; the entire North America, Europe & some Middle-Eastern Countries (Saudi, Qatar, Jordan) would have been completely erased. You must remember that Russia does not need any foreign military base to reach any Country in Heaven & on Earth.

All ICBMs & SLBMs launched towards Russia would be deflected & given false targets.

Y do you think Russia is expending huge amount of funds on Electronic Warfare devices? We have seen how effective these EW devices have proven to be both in Ukraine & Syria.

Don't be deceived by Amerika's military propaganda. Amerika & Nato will burn the day they engage Russia in War, and by time the war is over, the World population would have been drastically reduced from 9Billion to 350Million. grin

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ladkud(m): 1:56pm On Apr 21, 2016
what OP didn't understand is that NATO even including America can't beat Russia at home. That's what Russia military doctrine has been designed for and USA knows it well that is why they have been surrounding Russia through all the country that border Russia.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 3:22pm On Apr 21, 2016
Zoharariel:
In a full-scale war between Nato & Russia - Russia won't be standing alone, and not all the NATO states would participate for fear of being nuked into oblivion.

Ukraine, Poland & the baltic states would be overran within 3 days - Ask Putin grin

Israel & South Korea would be obliterated within the first week of the war by Iran & North Korea respectively. I trust Germany to stay neutral grin

Before NATO deploys, Russia would have siezed atleast half of the entire Europe. Have you seen the demonstration of Khibiny & Krasukha-4? Any Amerikan or NATO Naval fleet that comes close to 300km radius of the Baltic & the Black Sea will be rendered comatose.

Let's just say by the time Russia deploys half of her Nuclear warheads; the entire North America, Europe & some Middle-Eastern Countries (Saudi, Qatar, Jordan) would have been completely erased. You must remember that Russia does not need any foreign military base to reach any Country in Heaven & on Earth.

All ICBMs & SLBMs launched towards Russia would be deflected & given false targets.

Y do you think Russia is expending huge amount of funds on Electronic Warfare devices? We have seen how effective these EW devices have proven to be both in Ukraine & Syria.

Don't be deceived by Amerika's military propaganda. Amerika & Nato will burn the day they engage Russia in War, and by time the war is over, the World population would have been drastically reduced from 9Billion to 350Million. grin
You talk rubbish.Absolute rubbish.

Russia will never win a conventional war with NATO.
Russia's only hope are nukes of which they have to be nukes on submarines as any missile fired out of Russia would be shut down by American anti-ICBM shields that encircle Russia.

With nukes,everybody looses,without nukes Russia won't survive a week of war.

First things first,Russian economy will be targeted by NATO power houses.Secondly NATO is capable of amassing more than a million troops as a standing force on Russian fronts backed up by triple the size of Russia's war arsenals.

A NATO/Russia war will in turn move into a proxy war between Japan/China,North Korea/South Korea,Iran/Israel.

The United States as the world's Superpower is capable of fighting Russia on one front and defending allies on the other.Japan and South Korea will need support from the United States which America will gladly provided

US Seventh Fleet is on standby in Japan with over 70 warships,15 submarines,300 aircrafts and 40,000 Navy and Marines in Japan and 17,000 in South Korea.Combine this with Japanese Self-Defense Forces and the South Korean military strength all together.China and North Korea will be crushed.Australia will be forced to side with Japan and South Korea,an heavy blow on China and North Korea.

Of course nukes will most likely be an option for North Korea and China to use on South Korea and Japan respectively.If it comes to this,everyone looses cause the US will respond in kind and obliterate both China and North Korea.

Israel vs Iran.Israel needs little or no assistance to crush Iran.If the war was now,Israel has the upper hand with it's very capable Jericho3 ICBM,Iran will be levelled.If it's in a near future and Iran has become a nuclear state.It's a loss on both sides.

Without nukes,Israel wins.While Israel is geographically smaller and has a small military compared to Iran's boisterous size,Israel will still triumph.Israel undoubtedly possess one of the world's finest air superiority.Iran's air defense is protected by the S-300 batteries which are detectable by Israeli F-16I jets.Israel only needs send two to four squadrons and a fleet of Killer drones which will aim for important infrastructures in Iran.We take out their Supreme Leaders palace,the president's palace,the revolutionary guard HQ,their military HQ,level their air force bases and strike their Naval operations centres,take out all communications outpost and leave them in the dark.

Of course the Iranians won't standby and watch their country razed to ashes.Iran will counter the offensive by all possible means.Our fighters are backed by killer drones which will be deployed from the fighter jets once within Iranian airspace.Israel possesses one of the world's most sophisticated stealth drones,only rivalled by the United States.The drones will launch missiles on target.It's a double war from the sky for Iran.Iran will find it hard to take out both fighters and drones.They may succeed in taking out a few jets and a few drones,but the damage that would have been done by then would be fatal.

Let's move to the homeland.The Arab world are not unified on Iran.The only way Iran can claim victory over Israel is if there's a unified stance from the Arab world to fight Israel.At the looks of things now,Iran stands alone as Saudi Arabia wields more power over Arab nations.Even at that,if all Arab countries including Iran come together to attack Israel.Israel is heavily fortified with the worlds best Missile Defense Systems,from the tested and capable Iron Dome which will successfully stop short range rockest from entering into Israel to David's Sling which will stop Long range rockets and Arrow3 which will stop incoming ICBMs.

No nation on earth currently possesses a 3tier anti-missile option.Israel would deploy all 3 options to counter incoming missiles,while at it,Israel has the option to nuke all Arab countries and Iran.Except Israel leaves out a nuclear option will she be crushed which will never happen.

Back to the war in Europe,NATO has five times the number of weapons,aircrafts,ships,submarine that Russia has.In a none nuclear option,Russia will locked within the Baltic and Black Sea where American,British and French vessels will be on standby.Russia's only hope of launching attacks will be through subs which can't claim Russia an eventual victory.

Without nukes: NATO will stand with an overwhelming 80% victory over Russia while Russia has the remaining 20%.Why?NATO has the resources,the territorial advantage.

Oh,I never added a combined NATO airforce against Russia.Russian so-called untested jamming systems can only do so little when overwhelmed by more than 3000 fighter jets.Russian jets will fall like they did this last December.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 1:36am On Apr 22, 2016
grin grin grin
Stop watching too much movies
Dats what happened when you too dey watch Rambo grin grin
Hitler wrote his script like yours angry grin
Germany is still in pain till day grin grin
He will overrun Russia like the did to UK but na Russia will see for Berlin grin grin
ValerianSteel:
You talk rubbish.Absolute rubbish.

Russia will never win a conventional war with NATO.
Russia's only hope are nukes of which they have to be nukes on submarines as any missile fired out of Russia would be shut down by American anti-ICBM shields that encircle Russia.

With nukes,everybody looses,without nukes Russia won't survive a week of war.

First things first,Russian economy will be targeted by NATO power houses.Secondly NATO is capable of amassing more than a million troops as a standing force on Russian fronts backed up by triple the size of Russia's war arsenals.

A NATO/Russia war will in turn move into a proxy war between Japan/China,North Korea/South Korea,Iran/Israel.

The United States as the world's Superpower is capable of fighting Russia on one front and defending allies on the other.Japan and South Korea will need support from the United States which America will gladly provided

US Seventh Fleet is on standby in Japan with over 70 warships,15 submarines,300 aircrafts and 40,000 Navy and Marines in Japan and 17,000 in South Korea.Combine this with Japanese Self-Defense Forces and the South Korean military strength all together.China and North Korea will be crushed.Australia will be forced to side with Japan and South Korea,an heavy blow on China and North Korea.

Of course nukes will most likely be an option for North Korea and China to use on South Korea and Japan respectively.If it comes to this,everyone looses cause the US will respond in kind and obliterate both China and North Korea.

Israel vs Iran.Israel needs little or no assistance to crush Iran.If the war was now,Israel has the upper hand with it's very capable Jericho3 ICBM,Iran will be levelled.If it's in a near future and Iran has become a nuclear state.It's a loss on both sides.

Without nukes,Israel wins.While Israel is geographically smaller and has a small military compared to Iran's boisterous size,Israel will still triumph.Israel undoubtedly possess one of the world's finest air superiority.Iran's air defense is protected by the S-300 batteries which are detectable by Israeli F-16I jets.Israel only needs send two to four squadrons and a fleet of Killer drones which will aim for important infrastructures in Iran.We take out their Supreme Leaders palace,the president's palace,the revolutionary guard HQ,their military HQ,level their air force bases and strike their Naval operations centres,take out all communications outpost and leave them in the dark.

Of course the Iranians won't standby and watch their country razed to ashes.Iran will counter the offensive by all possible means.Our fighters are backed by killer drones which will be deployed from the fighter jets once within Iranian airspace.Israel possesses one of the world's most sophisticated stealth drones,only rivalled by the United States.The drones will launch missiles on target.It's a double war from the sky for Iran.Iran will find it hard to take out both fighters and drones.They may succeed in taking out a few jets and a few drones,but the damage that would have been done by then would be fatal.

Let's move to the homeland.The Arab world are not unified on Iran.The only way Iran can claim victory over Israel is if there's a unified stance from the Arab world to fight Israel.At the looks of things now,Iran stands alone as Saudi Arabia wields more power over Arab nations.Even at that,if all Arab countries including Iran come together to attack Israel.Israel is heavily fortified with the worlds best Missile Defense Systems,from the tested and capable Iron Dome which will successfully stop short range rockest from entering into Israel to David's Sling which will stop Long range rockets and Arrow3 which will stop incoming ICBMs.

No nation on earth currently possesses a 3tier anti-missile option.Israel would deploy all 3 options to counter incoming missiles,while at it,Israel has the option to nuke all Arab countries and Iran.Except Israel leaves out a nuclear option will she be crushed which will never happen.

Back to the war in Europe,NATO has five times the number of weapons,aircrafts,ships,submarine that Russia has.In a none nuclear option,Russia will locked within the Baltic and Black Sea where American,British and French vessels will be on standby.Russia's only hope of launching attacks will be through subs which can't claim Russia an eventual victory.

Without nukes: NATO will stand with an overwhelming 80% victory over Russia while Russia has the remaining 20%.Why?NATO has the resources,the territorial advantage.

Oh,I never added a combined NATO airforce against Russia.Russian so-called untested jamming systems can only do so little when overwhelmed by more than 3000 fighter jets.Russian jets will fall like they did this last December.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Missy89(f): 3:09am On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin grin grin
Stop watching too much movies
Dats what happened when you too dey watch Rambo grin grin
Hitler wrote his script like yours angry grin
Germany is still in pain till day grin grin
He will overrun Russia like the did to UK but na Russia will see for Berlin grin grin

Germany in pain? How?

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 6:08am On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin grin grin
Stop watching too much movies
Dats what happened when you too dey watch Rambo grin grin
Hitler wrote his script like yours angry grin
Germany is still in pain till day grin grin
He will overrun Russia like the did to UK but na Russia will see for Berlin grin grin
The Kremlin clowns never cease to surprise me grin grin

Why not counter my simulations with your own facts and let's see who exactly is watching too much moviesundecided
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 8:45am On Apr 22, 2016
Missy89:


Germany in pain? How?
I don't live on propaganda Ma
Germany population is 88M
Real German are just 40M while the rest are foreigners cheesy
25M people are btw 45 yrs upward while the remaining 15M are young and the worst is the young ones are now gays and lesbians
They don't wanna give birth again sad sad
They lost over 30M people during WW 1 and WW 2
And now they are reducing their Military populattion everyday while France too is doing the same thing
Forget propaganda
Russia is Germany highest dealer
Must of German and France productions goes to Russia likewise Russia product

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 8:56am On Apr 22, 2016
grin
Man you know nothing about War and you have never shot an arrow in your life talkless of holding a gun
Have you watched your friends been killed angry angry
You have neva watched your friends been killed while you are watching but can't do anything
You have neva open your eyes for straight 4 days, and walking around the forest..
If you have neva survive any of these then you know nothing about War angry angry
ValerianSteel:
The Kremlin clowns never cease to surprise me grin grin

Why not counter my simulations with your own facts and let's see who exactly is watching too much moviesundecided

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 9:30am On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin
Man you know nothing about War and you have never shot an arrow in your life talkless of holding a gun
Have you watched your friends been killed angry angry
You have neva watched your friends been killed while you are watching but can't do anything
You have neva open your eyes for straight 4 days, and walking around the forest..
If you have neva survive any of these then you know nothing about War angry angry
Counter my simulations with facts since you happen to know about war.

Goodness,how children like yourself find your way to threads like this.
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 9:42am On Apr 22, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Counter my simulations with facts since you happen to know about war.

Goodness,how children like yourself find your way to threads like this.
Goodness, how adult like yourself find your way to internet self grin grin and think one USA soldier can kill 200 people at once
Sir you need to stop that made in Aba weed, you always smoke in the morning grin grin
Quit watching Rambo 1,2 and 3 grin grin
I no mean insult oooh grin grin

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 9:57am On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:

Goodness, how adult like yourself find your way to internet self grin grin and think one USA soldier can kill 200 people at once
Sir you need to stop that made in Aba weed, you always smoke in the morning grin grin
Quit watching Rambo 1,2 and 3 grin grin
I no mean insult oooh grin grin
That's all they know,trash talk and gibberish.

Counter my simulations is all I asked undecided
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 10:58am On Apr 22, 2016
grin grin grin
You use what you have to defend yourself
Nobody wan waste her military men again
USA lost almost 1M troops to Japan War during WW2
If almighty USA fit use nuke on Small Japan then you expect Russia not to use it abi grin
Funny you grin


ValerianSteel:
That's all they know,trash talk and gibberish.

Counter my simulations is all I asked undecided

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 12:38pm On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin grin grin
You use what you have to defend yourself
Nobody wan waste her military men again
USA lost almost 1M troops to Japan War during WW2
If almighty USA fit use nuke on Small Japan then you expect Russia not to use it abi grin
Funny you grin


You are a pathological liar.Casualties count for the United States during WW2 was 400,000.

While you're at your lie,please remember the Soviet Union lost twenty million people(ten million is civilian deaths).

You are a brainwashed kid of Kremlin's propaganda machines.Quit quoting me,
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 12:51pm On Apr 22, 2016
grin grin
Brainwashed adult of American propaganda grin
You know nothing about war
You are just all those people that Rambo is like War grin
400K ko 1k ni
Na you kill the 20M USSR people abi grin grin
Another lie from someone brainwashed with CNN and BBC grin
ValerianSteel:
You are a pathological liar.Casualties count for the United States during WW2 was 400,000.

While you're at your lie,please remember the Soviet Union lost twenty million people(ten million is civilian deaths).

You are a brainwashed kid of Kremlin's propaganda machines.Quit quoting me,

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 1:10pm On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin grin
Brainwashed adult of American propaganda grin
You know nothing about war
You are just all those people that Rambo is like War grin
400K ko 1k ni
Na you kill the 20M USSR people abi grin grin
Another lie from someone brainwashed with CNN and BBC grin
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm

Now help your brain with some education and stop quoting me..
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 1:40pm On Apr 22, 2016
grin
Your links was written by who grin
Mr Man i don't need your yeye brainwashed link to know what happened in WW2
The history is around where I am grin grin
Brainwashed adult thinking Commando na real war grin
ValerianSteel:
http://warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/deaths.htm

Now help your brain with some education and stop quoting me..

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 1:49pm On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin
Your links was written by who grin
Mr Man i don't need your yeye brainwashed link to know what happened in WW2
The history is around where I am grin grin
Brainwashed adult thinking Commando na real war grin
Your stupidity is alarming.

Soviet Union Losses from Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union

WW2 casualties from Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

You are just as dumb as the program in your brain chip undecided
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 1:56pm On Apr 22, 2016
grin
God help you
Upgrade your brain with maybe Windows 7 at least it's better than this your brainless brain grin grin
American Zombie grin
ValerianSteel:
Your stupidity is alarming.

Soviet Union Losses from Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union

WW2 casualties from Wikipedia:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

You are just as dumb as the program in your brain chip undecided

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 2:12pm On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:
grin
God help you
Upgrade your brain with maybe Windows 7 at least it's better than this your brainless brain grin grin
American Zombie grin
Do yourself a favor and just fvck off.

You failed at every single attempt and you still have the guts to keep throwing tantrums.I don't know how you apply your intelligence but it's sickening and condescending.
Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by seunny4lif(m): 2:19pm On Apr 22, 2016
grin
You just won the award into the hall of fame of American Zombie
Keep it up
You will be upgraded to all time America zombies
Then you are a legend grin grin
ValerianSteel:
Do yourself a favor and just fvck off.

You failed at every single attempt and you still have the guts to keep throwing tantrums.I don't know how you apply your intelligence but it's sickening and condescending.

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by Missy89(f): 5:08pm On Apr 22, 2016
seunny4lif:

I don't live on propaganda Ma
Germany population is 88M
Real German are just 40M while the rest are foreigners cheesy
25M people are btw 45 yrs upward while the remaining 15M are young and the worst is the young ones are now gays and lesbians
They don't wanna give birth again sad sad
They lost over 30M people during WW 1 and WW 2
And now they are reducing their Military populattion everyday while France too is doing the same thing
Forget propaganda
Russia is Germany highest dealer
Must of German and France productions goes to Russia likewise Russia product


So how exactly is this living in pain? every country that fought the world wars lost a significant portion of their population. How does Russia/Germany Trade and being gay equals pain?

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Re: Does NATO Stand A Chance In A War Against Russia? by ValerianSteel(m): 5:17pm On Apr 22, 2016
Missy89:


So how exactly is this living in pain? every country that fought the world wars lost a significant portion of their population. How does Russia/Germany Trade and being gay equals pain?
Don't waste your time on it.It has no sense of it's own.

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