happy sunday people

Good God.

KingEbukaNaija:


The appropriate rebuttal may not be necessary but let's address this anyway .

Does a supernatural Being need to obey natural laws ? I mean we have a God who is above nature and is the light of the world and he cannot make plants survive without sunlight You mean this same God that temporarily stopped the motion of the earth so that Joshua would decimate the enemies of Israel cannot do such ?

Such a God exist only in story books and books of mythology not in reality. After all Allah also made Mohammed the prophet of Islam to divide the moon into two and bow down to him. The way you confidently spew Jewish mythology as if it real is mind boogling. You have failed to show that the universe was created by a single entity that speaks Hebrew. You have failed to show that this imaginary entity that the Hebrews created in their minds created the universe and not the pantheon of Hindu Gods. Let's assume that the universe had a creator. Please prove to me with objective evidence that it wasn't created by the Hindu God Brahma but by the God of the ancient Jews Yahweh. How does the earth stop rotating in reality? Dont come up with your silly escapist tactics of I have faith and that is all that matters. If you say that then don't expect anybody to not laugh at you and take you for a mumu.

winner01:
I would have loved to agree with you. But you'd have know everything (omniscience) and be everywhere (omnipresent) to make such a claim.

Ravi Zacharias sums up my thoughts in this quote "To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge"

If there was a God you will not be telling anybody about it. How many atheist have you been able to convert? Infact how many catholics have you been able to convert and make them see things your way? You have tried and have failed terribly. No God that is alive and wants people to know him will rely on a failure like you. Only a God that lives inside your head will do that.

Why do people become atheist? The answer is simple: They got to realize that they were indoctrinated with imaginary ideas of Gods.

Everybody was born an atheist some of us just stop believing the lies we have been told since childhood

Religiousness or non-religiousness of a person is not an automatic determinant of propensity to grave offences.

winner01:
Your point being what exactly?

The number one cause of atheism (in a religious society) is unrestrained critical thinking.

You missed the number one reason for atheism: the lack of any objective evidence of the existence of any God.

Seun:
You missed the number one reason for atheism: the lack of any objective evidence of the existence of any God.

What exactly do you mean by evidence, anything could serve as evidence my brother.

Many evidence in JERUSALEM and others....i love HINDU

Most atheists are just antichrist. Atheist is just a cool name to identify with. The rest are have just never had a real conviction of God.

Truth

winner01:
What exactly do you mean by evidence, anything could serve as evidence my brother.

Somethinf like proof. Facta that support your beliefs

Seun:
Somethinf like proof. Facta that support your beliefs

The life of Jesus
The excellence of the Bible
My personal experiences
The rationality of the christian worldview itself
The arrow of available archaeological and scientific evidence which points to creation
The life and testimonies of other christians around me
The amount of devotion, bigotry, obsession, vituperation and other forms of attack against Christianity
The numerous attempts by non-believers to replicate the christian doctrine and water it down
The clarity of the supernatural
The products of religious minds: Past and Present.
The intellectual honesty of some atheists.......

And I can go on and on...Anything can serve as evidence for God for various individuals. Some find meaning with God.

The question is not what would serve as evidence, it is what would serve as enough evidence.

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Christians have been no better. Their primary trade seems to be hypocrisy

winner01:

The life of Jesus
The excellence of the Bible
My personal experiences
The rationality of the christian worldview itself
The arrow of available archaeological and scientific evidence which points to creation
The life and testimonies of other christians around me
The amount of devotion, bigotry, obsession, vituperation and other forms of attack against Christianity
The numerous attempts by non-believers to replicate the christian doctrine and water it down
The clarity of the supernatural
The products of religious minds: Past and Present.
The intellectual honesty of some atheists.......

And I can go on and on...Anything can serve as evidence for God for various individuals. Some find meaning with God.

The question is not what would serve as evidence, it is what would serve as enough evidence.

My worries: how are you able to provide the existence of a metaphysical being in the absence of faith?!

In the absence of faith there can be no God. And a key element of faith is it's subjectivity

Kay17:


My worries: how are you able to provide the existence of a metaphysical being in the absence of faith?!

In the absence of faith there can be no God. And a key element of faith is it's subjectivity

We all have faith in one thing or the other.

What'm do you believe in?

davien:
If you think this is the part where I'd follow you into a pitiful debate then you'd be wrong..

I'm very happy you don't have anything left up your sleeve but lies anymore because it makes my job that much more easier... what do you think would make theists into atheists more than lying?

So please carry on.

Touchnot01:
We all have faith in one thing or the other.

Then don't disguise faith as truth

Kay17:


Then don't disguise faith as truth

Faith is true.

Kay17:


My worries: how are you able to provide the existence of a metaphysical being in the absence of faith?!

In the absence of faith there can be no God. And a key element of faith is it's subjectivity

My worries about atheists : How can you prove life came forth from the non living seeing its apparent mathematical impossibility

There have been no evidence life did so without supernatural intervention but you believe anyway . Isn't that faith ?

Touchnot01:
Faith is true.

But it's not truth.

KingEbukaNaija:


My worries about atheists : How can you prove life came forth from the non living seeing its apparent mathematical impossibility

There have been no evidence life did so without supernatural intervention but you believe anyway . Isn't that faith ?

This is where the Achilles heel of you Christian apologists lie. You are unable to convince anyone but yourselves of the independent existence of your God so you come to batter the atheists fences on what they didn't say.

You come arguing about the impossibility of life arising from non life or that the Universe came from nothing and other red herrings which have nothing to do with establishing the positive existence of your God.

It shows how shallow your attempts at proving your God are. If you can't prove it beyond faith then shut up.

Be humble enough to admit ambivalence regarding the metaphysical

Kay17:


This is where the Achilles heel of you Christian apologists lie. You are unable to convince anyone but yourselves of the independent existence of your God so you come to batter the atheists fences on what they didn't say.

You come arguing about the impossibility of life arising from non life or that the Universe came from nothing and other red herrings which have nothing to do with establishing the positive existence of your God.

It shows how shallow your attempts at proving your God are. If you can't prove it beyond faith then shut up.

Be humble enough to admit ambivalence regarding the metaphysical

You still didn't answer my questions dear . Let me repeat the questions

How can you prove life came forth from the non living seeing its apparent mathematical impossibility ?

There have been no evidence life did so without supernatural intervention but you believe anyway . Isn't that faith ?

KingEbukaNaija:


You still didn't answer my questions dear . Let me repeat the questions

How can you prove life came forth from the non living seeing its apparent mathematical impossibility ?

There have been no evidence life did so without supernatural intervention but you believe anyway . Isn't that faith ?

You keep repeating the error I treated in my last post.

KingEbukaNaija:


You still didn't answer my questions dear . Let me repeat the questions

How can you prove life came forth from the non living seeing its apparent mathematical impossibility ?

There have been no evidence life did so without supernatural intervention but you believe anyway . Isn't that faith ?

Is there evidence that supernatural intervention created life? that's what you ought to answer

Kay17:


Is there evidence that supernatural intervention created life? that's what you ought to answer

Abiogenesis is impossible . Life from the non living needs the SUPERnatural - its common sense .


I see you don't want to admit that you show faith . There is lack of evidence that abiogenesis ever happened and its impossible but you chose to believe it did . Faith ?

Kay17:


You keep repeating the error I treated in my last post.

There's no error sis

KingEbukaNaija:


Abiogenesis is impossible . Life from the non living needs the SUPERnatural - its common sense .


I see you don't want to admit that you show faith . There is lack of evidence that abiogenesis ever happened and its impossible but you chose to believe it did . Faith ?

I never said anything about abiogenesis. What the hell are you saying