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What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:07pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
I want Atheists to ponder on what this physicists have to say about God's existence. I will also post a report from researchers in the field of Medicine and physcology probing the accounts of patients that have had near death experiences (NDE) i want Atheists to ponder on this issues. I will start with Physicist George Stanciu and philosopher Robert Augros 1 Like |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by cloudgoddess(f): 1:39pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
You already made a huge blunder by misrepresenting the atheist position. Atheists don't say there is no possibility of a god. We say that the evidence that's been provided (for thousands of different gods) is not convincing, so we reject the claim of their existence. The goal of a theist, therefore, should be to provide the proof that THEIR, SPECIFIC God exists (in your case, Yahweh & the divine Jesus). Not to remind everyone of the "potential possibility of a god or creator of some kind maybe existing". Because atheists already accept that, albeit we find it highly doubtful given the evidence. The claim you guys are making as that you KNOW that one exists and you KNOW it's nature, it's qualities, what it says and wants. THAT is what you need to prove. 16 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:40pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Physicist George Stanciu and philosopher Robert Augros provide an explanation of why the naturalist/materialist worldview is no longer scientifically or philosophically supportable in their book "The New Story of Science" “In the New Story of science the whole universe–including matter, energy, space, and time–is a one-time event and had a definite beginning. But something must have always existed; for if ever absolutely nothing existed, then nothing would exist now, since nothing comes from nothing. The material universe cannot be the thing that always existed because matter had a beginning. It is 12 to 20 billion years old. This means that whatever has always existed is non-material. The only non-material reality seems to be mind. If mind is what has always existed, then matter must have been brought into existence by a mind that always was. This points to an intelligent, eternal being who created all things. Such a being is what we mean by the term God.” and Albert Einstein says… “Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe–a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.” 1 Like |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by ettaetta(m): 1:48pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
cloudgoddess:you are just confused let me ask you this, why do you believe in the possibility of the existence of a God? |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:48pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Physicist Richard Conn Henry explains why people (such as atheist biologists) cling to materialism/naturalism despite the fact that it has been completely discredited by modern physics: “Why do people cling with such ferocity to belief in a mind-independent reality? It is surely because if there is no such reality, then ultimately (as far as we can know) mind alone exists. And if mind is not a product of real matter, but rather is the creator of the illusion of material reality (which has, in fact, despite the materialists, been known to be the case since the discovery of quantum mechanics in 1925), then a theistic view of our existence becomes the only rational alternative to solipsism.” (“Solipsism” is defined as “the view or theory that the self is all that can be known to exist".) Naturalism/materialism, simply put, is critical for maintaining an atheist worldview. Mind must be the eventual product of mindless matter for atheism to stand. An atheist must therefore ignore, remain ignorant of, or rationalize away the insights of modern physics in order to prevent his/her belief system from collapsing. because materialism/naturalism is the predominant cultural context within the insular world of atheist biologists (as well as other branches of academia), this is done collectively. |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:51pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Werner Heisenberg, who won the Nobel Prize in Physics for creating quantum mechanics, explained the divergence between biology and physics (with regard to God) best when he wrote: “The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you.” With the phrase “the bottom of the glass,” Heisenberg is referring to the study of the most fundamental aspects of reality…which are investigated by physics. Abdus Salam , winner of the 1979 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work in electroweak theory He is here quoted in his article entitled Science and Religion . . “I have looked into most philosophical systems and I have seen that none will work without God.” “Science is incompetent to reason upon the creation of matter itself out of nothing. We have reached the utmost limit of our thinking faculties when we have admitted that because matter cannot be eternal and self- existent it must have been created.” |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:56pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Max Planck (the Nobel Prize winning physicist who founded quantum theory) says… “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clear headed science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about atoms this much: There is no matter as such. All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particle of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.” Physicist and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell , who is credited with formulating classical electromagnetic theory and whose contributions to science are considered to be of the same magnitude as those of Einstein and Newton. . “For myself, faith begins with a realization that a supreme intelligence brought the universe into being and created man. It is not difficult for me to have this faith, for it is incontrovertible that where there is a plan there is intelligence—an orderly, unfolding universe testifies to the truth of the most majestic statement ever uttered—-’In the beginning God.’” |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 1:58pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
the Nobel Prize winning physicist Eugene Wigner says… “When the province of physical theory was extended to encompass microscopic phenomena, through the creation of quantum mechanics, the concept of consciousness came to the fore again; it was not possible to formulate the laws of quantum mechanics in a fully consistent way without reference to the consciousness,” and… “The content of consciousness is an ultimate reality.” |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by UyiIredia(m): 2:04pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Brilliant quotes from the scientists. Just brilliant. |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Don't you guys get tired of quoting "Famous Scientists" and all that nonsense... Don't you tire of saying the same misconceptions despite many atheists attempt to educate you... And finally, Don't you get tired of saying "God cannot be proven by science"?? I mean, for a deity who decided to create a new species of fish that swallow men whole and put them back alive, hale and hearty after three days and a deity that got Penguins to come to the Middle East; why on earth can't he be confirmed by science 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 2:27pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Click here for the report on NDE https://www.nairaland.com/3174146/critical-study-near-death-experiences |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by felixomor: 2:37pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
SirWere: Stop sounding stupid. If quoting famous scientists dont satisfy you, then what will while u r being hypocrite. You claim quoting these scientists is rubbish, yet you are busy using all the devices, electricity and other discoveries made by them? Tell me who is worse. 1 Like |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Nobody: 2:42pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
felixomor:You completely lost me. Next time you want to display your very high intelligence, make it comprehensible. 2 Likes |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by frank317: 2:50pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
You speak for a supposed almighty creator of the world... and you want me to take you both seriously? Simply call yourself God and lets get this over with already. 4 Likes |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by urahara(m): 2:59pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Dejideji1 , what are u doing |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Scholar8200(m): 5:18pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Arrogance, manic conceitedness, pride and rebellion exudes the theophobes; and just these qualities pleases mephistopheles! Op, you need to realise that the smallest of your target audience thinks himself better than all these men put together! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by donnffd(m): 5:24pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Is this the so called research that would trigger our reasoning?...disappointed 3 Likes |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 7:02pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
donnffd: Oga read the second report and merge the two. (also ensure you watch the video @the end) |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Nobody: 7:44pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
This Might Suffice 1 Like
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Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:10pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
cloudgoddess: You are really confused. What is the definition of Atheism? And are you no longer an Atheist again? |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by urahara(m): 8:13pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Dejideji1: . 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:21pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
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Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:27pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
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Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:27pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
ettaetta: Don't mind her, she is confused. It seems she doesn't know the definition of an Atheist again |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Nobody: 8:33pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
UyiIredia:Long time. |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:35pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
urahara:Bro what is all this definition for? She clearly stated "Atheists" |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by urahara(m): 8:39pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Dejideji1: Guy study the picture again |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by UyiIredia(m): 8:45pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer:Yeah. I hope you're fine. |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:49pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
urahara: Oga she is still wrong. As she didn't specify, stop trying to cover up for her. |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 8:57pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
Click here for the report on NDE https://www.nairaland.com/3174146/critical-study-near-death-experiences |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by Dejideji1(m): 9:10pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
urahara:So which one are you, Gnostic or Agnostic? |
Re: What Renowned Physicists Say About God's Existence by urahara(m): 9:19pm On Jun 18, 2016 |
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