I think any up-to-date person will agree that there are very likely extra-terrestial civilizations elsewhere in the universe.

I ask: If it were proved true, would it alter your perception of certain biblical dogmas -

E.g: Remission of sins through death on the cross etc.

whats the connection between bible dogmas and UFO's ?

For example, some people say: Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, and for this reason only those who accept him can be saved.

If there are other civilizations out there, do the men (or whatever they are) there require his sacrifice on the cross? Do they even know of him? Could not another emissary of truth be sent to them? Would it not show that even here on earth there could be different emissaries of truth?

You would be shocked how much the bible as to do with UFOs, if you have time just browse through this site http://www.bibleufo.com/ and you would be amazed what you find their.

KunleOshob:

You would be shocked how much the bible as to do with UFOs, if you have time just browse through this site http://www.bibleufo.com/ and you would be amazed what you find their.

When will you people stop lying to yourselves? What does the bible say about UFOs? We now have people telling us how the the bible got evolution right and explained it in details, we also have people telling us that the bible god created the big bang etc When will you people stop lying to yourselves and trying to make everything fit into that book by force? You guys are not helping your case. . . if intelligent life is found else where in the universe I know a lot of christians will start talking about how the bible also said that jesus died for their sins and salvation too. . . . Pathetic people. . . .

I really will be interested to know if aliens need to accept Jesus as their personal lord and savior.

And if they do not, then why should the Chinese? Or red indians?

Isn't it really about different cultures?

is there any evidence that suggests that intelligence life exists outside this planet?

I only ask - "WHAT IF?"

maybe u should also consider . . . .the IF NOT

I have always wondered at people who are not able to address "if" questions.

Jack: What if there is traffic on the m25

Peter: What if there is not?

Jack: No dumbo, i need you to tell me what you will do if there is traffic there? ? ?

Peter: What if there is not?

I hope you get the point. Your answer does not address the question, it only seeks to ponder another possibility.

You will not make a good general for war.

Your soldier: Sir! What if the enemy are encamped over the hill we are heading to.

Noetic: What if they are not? ? ?

noetic2:

is there any evidence that suggests that intelligence life exists outside this planet?

Astronomers all say that they do not know but some say that they believe that there is intelligent life out there. . .there are gazillions of stars out there and astronomers know very little about the universe. . there might be other universes out there(Multiverse) No body knows. . .Life building blocks have been found on comets according to astronomers and if that is true then it suggest that there might be some kind of life in other parts of the universe. . .We kno very very very little about the universe to know if there is life else where. . . I know the thoughts of life else where is the last thing religious fundamentalist will like to hear because it will expose and shatter all the lies they have been holding unto. . . .

Deep Sight:

I have always wondered at people who are not able to address "if" questions.

Jack: What if there is traffic on the m25

Peter: What if there is not?

Jack: No dumbo, i need you to tell me what you will do if there is traffic there? ? ?

Peter: What if there is not?

I hope you get the point. Your answer does not address the question, it only seeks to ponder another possibility.

You will not make a good general for war.

Your soldier: Sir! What if the enemy are encamped over the hill we are heading to.

Noetic: What if they are not? ? ?

its not hard to detect the direction of an IF question when u examine the quality and premise of the question and the level of intelligence on display.

No matter how much they dont like to hear it, it will not change the ultimate truth.

The Catholic church ex communicated Galileo Galilei for stating that the earth is not the centre of the universe and that the sun does not revolve around the earth.

Who's laughing now?

mazaje:

Astronomers all say that they do not know but some say that they believe that there is intelligent life out there. . .there are gazillions of stars out there and astronomers know very little about the universe. . there might be other universes out there(Multiverse) No body knows. . .Life building blocks have been found on comets according to astronomers and if that is true then it suggest that there might be some kind of life in other parts of the universe. . .We kno very very very little about the universe to know if there is life else where. . . I know the thoughts of life else where is the last thing religious fundamentalist will like to hear because it will expose and shatter all the lies they have been holding unto. . . .    

all of these remain assumptions. . . .unless and until there are substantial evidences. . . these innuendos should be discarded.
have u ever wondered why evolution remains an assumption even after 150 years?

Deep Sight:

No matter how much they dont like to hear it, it will not change the ultimate truth.

The Catholic church ex communicated Galileo Galilei for stating that the earth is not the centre of the universe and that the sun does not revolve around the earth.

Who's laughing now?

whats the relevance of this to the thread?

Christ!

The relevance is that discovered facts may vary with established faith!

OR: they may rattle established ideas!

Its amazing and a bit comical how you have determinedly refused to answer the question.

Looks like you are one of those people who dont want to contemplate the idea cos you fear it will rattle dogma?

Deep Sight:

Christ!

The relevance is that discovered facts may vary with established faith!

OR: they may rattle established ideas!

Its amazing and a bit comical how you have determinedly refused to answer the question.

Looks like you are one of those people who dont want to contemplate the idea cos you fear it will rattle dogma?

you are yet to establish how EXACTLY the existence of a different intelligent life discredits the christian belief. . . . and u dare talk about rattling established beliefs
what beliefs EXACTLY would be rattled? how?

UFO's would be worth exploring if there is ANY substantially meaningful evidence that suggests that there is more to this universe than we know. . .other wise it is fruitless.

noetic2:

all of these remain assumptions. . . .unless and until there are substantial evidences. . . these innuendos should be discarded.

We know from our own existence that the universe is very conducive for life. . . There are trillions of solar systems that are just like ours in our own galaxy with planets revolving around stars like ours. Life building blocks have been found on some comets so there is that possibility. . .But you will rather discard it because it will never want it to be true because it will shatter everything you thought was true. . .The fact remains that we know very little about the universe to make up any conclusion or discard anything about it. . .the universe might be part o something bigger we just don't know. . .the Hubble space telescope just sent some very interesting pictures go have a look at them

have u ever wondered why evolution remains an assumption even after 150 years?

Some people believe it to be a fact just as you believe in creationism to be a fact. . .

Q: If they exist, do they need to accept Jesus as their personal lord and saviour.

Simple question, abeg stop dodging.

Deep Sight:

Q: If they exist, do they need to accept Jesus as their personal lord and saviour.

Simple question, abeg stop dodging.

is this based on the assumptions that they are humans?

noetic2:

you are yet to establish how EXACTLY the existence of a different intelligent life discredits the christian belief. . . . and

If intelligent life is found in other parts of the universe it will completely shatter all man made religions and their various lies. . . .Christianity talks very little about the universe, the bible only talks about god creating the stars and thats all in other places it talks about the stars falling into the earth if as the stars are some little bulbs hanging out there in the sky. . .The writers of the bible do not know that the stars are just like our sun and also have planets orbiting around them. . . The stars are of no use to them because the bible talks says that the stars are made so that people will use them for signs . The writers of the bible have no idea about the galaxies that exist, the comets etc. . .They have no idea about the universe at all. . . to them ONLY the earth matters, the earth is the center of the universe and everything revolves around it that is why their god had to come to some parts of the earth and dwell with its inhabitants. . . They don't know that the earth is insignificant. . take the earth away and the universe will remain the same. . . .

The illiterates that wrote the koran say that meteorites are allah's spears against the jins who go up to Aljanah to eavesdrop   .

The day intelligent life will be discovered in another part of the universe that day all the religious fundamentalist will go on rampage some will even lay down their lives just so that they ca destroy the evidence. . . .

noetic2:

is this based on the assumptions that they are humans?

Humans exist here so what stops humans from existing in other parts of the planet? There are trillions of stars that are just like ours with planets orbiting countless stars. . . .

mazaje:

If intelligent life is found in other parts of the universe it will completely shatter all man made religions and their various lies. . . .Christianity talks very little about the universe, the bible only talks about god creating the stars and thats all in other places it talks about the stars falling into the earth if as the stars are some little bulbs hanging out there in the sky. . .The writers of the bible do not know that the stars are just like our sun and also have planets orbiting around them. . . The stars are of no use to them because the bible talks says that the stars are made so that people will use them for signs . The writers of the bible have no idea about the galaxies that exist, the comets etc. . .They have no idea about the universe at all. . . to them ONLY the earth matters, the earth is the center of the universe and everything revolves around it that is why their god had to come to some parts of the earth and dwell with its inhabitants. . . They don't know that the earth is insignificant. . take the earth away and the universe will remain the same. . . .

The illiterates that wrote the koran say that meteorites are allah's spears against the jins who go up to Aljanah to eavesdrop   .

The day intelligent life will be discovered in another part of the universe that day all the religious fundamentalist will go on rampage some will even lay down their lives just so that they ca destroy the evidence. . . .

I dont see the relevance of ur assumptions.
but if intelligent exists somewhere. . .should they not be the first to discover us?

mazaje:

Humans exist here so what stops humans from existing in other parts of the planet? There are trillions of stars that are just like ours with planets orbiting countless stars. . . .

what planet EXACTLY?

The question is what is the probability that the conditions that produce life as we know it can be replicated elsewhere in the exact same way?

Chrisbenogor:

The question is what is the probability that the conditions that produce life as we know it can be replicated elsewhere in the exact same way?

None. . . except by an higher intelligence. . . . the one that made the life and universe we live in.

noetic2:


I dont see the relevance of your assumptions.
but if intelligent exists somewhere. . .should they not be the first to discover us?

Is this what you believe or is that how it should be neotic?

noetic2:

what planet EXACTLY?

. Are you drinking beer neotic what kind of question is this. . .

mazaje:

Is this what you believe or is that how it should be neotic?

well u claimed that they are more intelligent. . . . .or didnt u?

. Are you drinking beer neotic what kind of question is this. . .

i guess we are talking about two different things then.

noetic2:

well u claimed that they are more intelligent. . . . .or didnt u?

No I didn't . . .

i guess we are talking about two different things then.

Perhaps. . .

Those manning the ufo's might be angels. Search on the Nazca Peru lines, it seems that was an ancient airspace landing for these ufo thousands of years ago.

Chrisbenogor:

The question is what is the probability that the conditions that produce life as we know it can be replicated elsewhere in the exact same way?

The probability is zero . . . and it is this very fact that puts a lie to evolution and the big bang theory.

You don't know nothing of this universe ,

You earthlings live/operate in the 3rd dimension,
while most space beings have ascended into the 5th dimension.

That is the main reason you cannot see or feel them, because
you have been veiled and your frequency is just too low to
percieve other realities.

But very soon, the earth will experience changes on its ascent
into the 5th dimensional plane.

Then you begin to see and to comprehend this multiverse in all its glory.