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What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:30am On Jul 21, 2016 |
What is the meaning/definition of the word Catholic? Does the term "catholic" simply refer to the universal church? Suggested answer: Question: "What is the meaning/definition of the word Catholic?" 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by Nobody: 11:52am On Jul 21, 2016 |
Whenever i hear Catholic, what comes to mind is a serpent in disguise of sheep. No be me talk am ooo. So don't quote me. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by Scholar8200(m): 11:54am On Jul 21, 2016 |
This suggests that the RCC is actually the first attempt at establishing a denomination. Is that right? And then as certain groups discover practices that are extra-scriptural, they either break away or are excommunicated hence a new denomination is formed. Corollary? RCC is NOT the Church being referred to in Matthew 16:18/1 Timothy 3:15!(RCC did not exist then) Rather, the Universal Church is scattered among every denomination. Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout ... 1 Peter 1:1 |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:47pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
[quote author=HenryDion post=47750865] Whenever i hear Catholic, what comes to mind is a serpent in disguise of sheep. No be me talk am ooo. So don't quote me. /quote] According to the OP, the word "catholic" does not necessarily imply what comes to your mind. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by Nobody: 3:33pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=47755707][/quote] Am not judging base on ops view. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:49pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Scholar8200: This is the awful truth that folks find difficult to digest. Scholar8200: We thank God that some Protestant churches still use the term correctly, they see it as a term referring to all believers in Christ across the world in all ages regardless of their denominational affiliation. I used to confuse the term with the RCC but this OP clarifies the terminology. Scholar8200: That is a good verse to buttress the point of the OP. I doubt hardcore members of the RCC will have issues with that. The use of the word the church catholic would not be far from what the early Christians meant it to be before some folks hijacked the word. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by cktheluckyman: 9:19pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Scholar8200: So is the catholic church of today not scattered across the globe? What exactly is your point. St Ignatius who was the first person to use the word professed beleifs identical to the catholic church of today.There were churches scattered across the middle east and europe but they were all in communion with each other.They were not differant denominations like we have in today's protestant churches. 1 Like |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by cktheluckyman: 9:43pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: The "appellation Roman catholic curch was first used in the seventeenth century.The catholic church has always been called catholic church from when st Ignatius coined that term |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by cktheluckyman: 9:53pm On Jul 21, 2016 |
Papacy The term "Roman Catholic" appeared in the English language at the beginning of the 17th century to differentiate members of the Catholic Church (in communion with the Pope) from other Christians who use the term "Catholic"; comparable terms in other languages already existed. Being "catholic" is one of the Four Marks of the Church set out in the Nicene Creed, a statement of belief accepted by many churches even if not in communion with the Pope. In popular usage, "Roman Catholic Church" is usually understood to mean the same as "Catholic Church". The name has continued to be widely used in the English language ever since, although its usage has changed over the centuries.[1] The church known as the "Catholic Church" consists of 24 autonomous churches (all of which are subject to the Pope)— one "Western" and 23 "Eastern" — governed by two sets of codes of canon law.[2] To refer to all 24 autonomous churches together, official church documents often use the term "Catholic Church" or, less frequently, the term "Roman Catholic Church". "Roman Catholic" is used by some governments and scholars to refer to members of the majority Latin Church within the Catholic Church.[3] In compound forms such as "Roman Catholic worship" the term is sometimes used to differentiate Western (Latin Church) practices from Eastern. The usage of "Roman Catholic" to mean members of the Latin Church or Western Church to the exclusion of those who belong to the various Eastern Catholic churches does not appear in any recent document of the Holy See and popes have used the term "Roman Catholic Church" on various occasions throughout the 20th century to mean instead the whole church without exclusion of any part (see the quotes in the section on Papal references below). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_(term) |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:11am On Jul 23, 2016 |
HenryDion: Please tell us how you came about this secret. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by Nobody: 10:56am On Jul 23, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU:There's a relationship between Catholic and illuminati. Go to your search engine and type these two keywords, you will know better. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by orunto27: 2:04pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
General and Universal Christian Church. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:07pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
cktheluckyman: Can you quote when and where St Ignatius' first use of the word "catholic"? |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:35pm On Jul 26, 2016 |
cktheluckyman: The catholic church is different from the Roman catholic church. The former was first used to describe the Christian Church in the early 2nd century to emphasise its universal scope according to the OP before it eventually got incorporated into the Roman catholic church many centuries after. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by cktheluckyman: 5:40am On Jul 27, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: Lolz!!!! There is no difference between the catholic church and the roman cathoilic curch dear!!In fact the term "roman catholic" "romish christians" were coined in the 17th century by the english church to derogatively refer to catholics!! You have a very poor and limited knowledge of church history.I have already provided the link to you if you bothered to read. The catholic church does not use the term "roman catholic" in any of its official documents |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by cktheluckyman: 5:46am On Jul 27, 2016 |
OLAADEGBU: The earliest recorded evidence of the use of the term "Catholic Church" is the Letter to the Smyrnaeans that Ignatius of Antioch wrote in about 107 to Christians in Smyrna. Exhorting Christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: "Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term) I can't even believe you are asking this when you could have just used google search to knock yourselves out. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:56pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
cktheluckyman: The link you provided rubbishes your claim that it's first use was in the 17th century. It asserts that it was in the 2nd century as confirmed by the OP. See what your link says was the first use of the term in the excerpt below: Use of term "Catholic" Edit You can see that the term "Catholic" was originally applied to all Christians because we are all part of the universal church in the way that we are all members of the Body of Christ not the Roman Catholic church. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:02pm On Jul 27, 2016 |
cktheluckyman: Are you not shooting yourself in the foot here? You earlier claimed that the first use was in the 17th century now you are quoting 107 A.D. to the Christians in Smyrna. I reiterate that the word Catholic Church spoken by Ignatius to the Smyrna Christians did not mean the Roman Catholic Church as you would like us to believe as the RCC was not formed until the 3rd century. |
Re: What Is The Meaning/Definition Of The Word Catholic? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:16pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
orunto27: That's more like it. |
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