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| Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:14am On Aug 04, 2016 |
I didnt wanted to start this thread with this. But for the sake of Anas09 And other Christians who refer to themself as "Christ Like" meaning jesus like which is wrong I find it Rather funny  So M Gonna use this first section to educate u on what "christ" means!!
So now u get the point christ is not a name but a title meaning the messiah so saying "christlike" is Invalid Why?? Cause they are many christ(messiah) in the Bible!! so u should quit refrane from using that cause it could mean different things to different people! Saying "Christ like" is Like saying "Messiah like" 2 Likes |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:17am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Jesus is a False Messiah According to Jesus’ admissions, as well as the Bible’s prophecies, Jesus of Nazareth could not have been the Messiah. This of course, would invalidate Christianity as we know it. Prophecies to Identify the Messiah, Which Jesus Does Not Fulfill: Matthew 1:23 says that Jesus (the messiah) would be called Immanuel, which means “God with us.” Yet no one, not even his parents, call him Immanuel at any point in the bible. The Messiah must be a physical descendant of David (Romans 1:3 & Acts 2:30). Yet, how could Jesus meet this requirement since his genealogies in Matthew 1 and Luke 3 show he descended from David through Joseph, who was not his natural father because of the Virgin Birth. Hence, this prophecy could not have been fulfilled. Isaiah 7:16 seems to say that before Jesus had reached the age of maturity, both of the Jewish countries would be destroyed. Yet there is no mention of this prophecy being fulfilled in the New Testament with the coming of Jesus, hence this is another Messiah prophecy not fulfilled. [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:19am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Prophecies Christians Use to Verify Jesus as the Messiah, Yet Clearly Fail: [b] The gospels (especially Matthew 21:4 and John 12:14-15) claim that Jesus fulfills the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9. But the next few verses (Zechariah 9:10-13) show that the person referred to in this verse is a military king that would rule “from sea to sea”. Since Jesus had neither an army nor a kingdom, he could not have fulfilled this prophecy. Matthew (Matthew 2:17-18) quotes Jeremiah (Jeremiah 31:15), claiming that it was a prophecy of King Herod’s alleged slaughter of the children in and around Bethlehem after the birth of Jesus. But this passage refers to the Babylonian captivity, as is clear by reading the next two verses (Jeremiah 31:16-17), and, thus, has nothing to do with Herod’s massacre. John 19:33 says that during Jesus’ crucifixion, the soldiers didn’t break his legs because he was already dead. Verse John 19:36 claims that this fulfilled a prophecy: “Not a bone of him shall be broken.” But there is no such prophecy. It is sometimes said that the prophecy appears in Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12 & Psalm 34:20. This is not correct. Exodus 12:46 & Numbers 9:12 are not prophecies, they are commandments. The Israelites are told not to break the bones of the Passover lamb, and this is all it is about. And Psalm 34:20 seems to refer to righteous people in general (see verse Psalm 34:19, where a plural is used), not to make a prophecy about a specific person. “When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt.” Hosea 11:1. Matthew (Matthew 2:15) claims that the flight of Jesus’ family to Egypt is a fulfillment of this verse. But Hosea 11:1 is not a prophecy at all. It is a reference to the Hebrew exodus from Egypt and has nothing to do with Jesus. Matthew tries to hide this fact by quoting only the last part of the verse (“Out of Egypt I have called my son”). “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” Micah 5:2 The gospel of Matthew (Matthew 2:5-6) claims that Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem fulfils this prophecy. But this is unlikely for two reasons. [/b] 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:20am On Aug 04, 2016 |
“Bethlehem Ephratah” in Micah 5:2 refers not to a town, but to a clan: the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb’s second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chronicles 2:18, 2:50-52 & 4:4). The prophecy (if that is what it is) does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from Micah 5:6. This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did. It should also be noted that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: “And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Judah” rather than “Bethlehem Ephratah” as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make this verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:23am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Statements Jesus Made Which Are False: Jesus in John 14:12 & Mark 16:17-18 said: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth in me, the works that I do shall he also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” This implies that Jesus’ true followers should be able to routinely perform the following tricks: 1) cast out devils 2) speak in tongues 3) take up serpents 4) drink poisons without harm, and 5) cure the sick by touching them and MANY other of Jesus’ “works”. Curiously I have yet to see a Christian that can do any of the above on demand. In John 14:13-14 Jesus stated: “And whatsoever ye ask in my name I do, that the Father may be glorified in the son. If ye ask any thing in my name, I will do it.” In reality, millions of people have made millions of requests in Jesus’ name and failed to receive satisfaction. This promise or prophecy has failed completely. Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection (1 Corinthian 15:14-17). Yet Jesus said in Matthew 12:40 that he would be buried three days and three nights as Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights. Friday afternoon to early Sunday morning is only one and a half days, so he could not have been the messiah by his own and Paul’s admission. Jesus’ prophecy in John 13:38 (“The cock shall not crow, till thou [Peter] hast denied me three times”) is false. Mark 14:66-68 shows the cock crowed after the first denial, not the third. In Mark 10:19 Jesus said: “Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, do not steal, do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother.” Jesus needs to re-read the Ten Commandments. There is no Old Testament commandment against defrauding. The only relevant statement about defrauding is in Leviticus 19:13 , which says : “Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbor.” This is an OT law, but is not listed with the Ten Commandments. Surely, if Jesus was god incarnate he would know the commandments. “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven” (John 3:13). If Jesus is in heaven, how can he be down on earth speaking? Moreover, according to 2 Kings 2:11 (“and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven”) Jesus was not the only person to ascend into heaven, nor was he the first. Elijah preceded him and apparently Enoch did also (“And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him”–Genesis 5:24). [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:26am On Aug 04, 2016 |
In Luke 23:43 Jesus said to the thief on the cross, “Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.” This obviously has to be false, for Jesus was supposed to lay dead in the tomb for three days following his crucifixion. Jesus says : “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy” (Matthew 5:43). This statement does not exist in the OT either. In fact, Proverbs 24:17 says, “Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth…” Jesus is reported to say: “The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it” (Luke 16:16). Certainly every man is not pressing to enter the kingdom of God. The very fact that I am an atheist (one third of the world’s population does not believe in a god) proves this verse to be false. “Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the Sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?” (Matthew 12:5) Nowhere does the OT state that the priests in the temple profaned the Sabbath and were considered blameless. “Yea; have ye never read, ‘Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise'” (Matthew 21:16). Jesus is quoting Psalm 8:2, which says, “Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength because of thine enemies…”. “Perfect praise” has little to do with “ordaining strength because of thine enemies.” Another misquotation! “But I say unto you, That Elias is indeed come, and they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, as it is written of him” (Mark 9:13). There are no prophecies in the OT of things that were to happen to Elijah. [/b] |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:28am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Jesus, in all his “God incarnate” wisdom, contradicts himself: Jesus consistently contradicts himself concerning his Godly status. “I and my father are one.” (John 14:28) Also see Philippians 2:5-6 Those verses lead us to believe that he is a part of the trinity and equal to his father being a manifestation of him. Yet, Jesus also made many statements that deny he is the perfect men, much less God incarnate. Take the following for example: “Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God” (Matthew 19:17). “My father if greater then I.” (John 14:28) Also see Matthew 24:26 Clearly, Jesus is denouncing the possibility of him being the Messiah in those three verses. Jesus said, “whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire” (Matthew 5:22). Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 23:17-19 and Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show. Clearly Jesus should be in danger of hell too? Does Jesus support peace, or war? Matthew 5:39 “Resist not evil, but whoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.” Also note Matthew 6:38-42 & 26:52 where Jesus teaches non-resistance, Non-violence. Now read (Luke 22:36-37) Where Jesus commands people to take arms for a coming conflict. (John 2:15) Jesus uses a whip to physically drive people out of the temple. Matthew 15:24 Jesus said, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of lsrael,”. This would of course mean that he is here only to save the Jews. The scriptures repeatedly back up this notion that Christ is savior to the Jews and not the gentiles (see Romans 16:17, Revelations 14:3-4 & John 10). The contradiction lies in what Jesus later tells his followers: “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations” (Matthew 28:19). Can we hate our kindred? Luke 14:26 Jesus says “If any man come unto me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brother, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he can not be my disciple.” John 3:15 “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer.” Also see Ephesians 6:22, 5:25, & Matthew 15:4 Even many of the staunchest defenders of Jesus admit that his comment in Matthew 10:34 (“I came not to send peace but a sword”) contradicts verses such as Matthew 26:52 (“Put up again thy sword into his place: for all that take the sword shall perish with the sword”). [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 12:28am On Aug 04, 2016 |
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| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:30am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Deuteronomy 24:1 & 21:10-14 all say that divorce is allowed for the simple reason if a “man no longer delighteth in his wife”. Yet Jesus comes along and breaks his father’s law by saying in Matthew 5:32 that adultery is the only way one can be divorced. In Mark 8:35 Jesus said: “…but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s the same shall save it.” How could Jesus have said this when there was no gospel when he lived? The gospel did not appear until after his death. Matthew 6:13 Jesus recites a revised prayer and states, “Don’t bring us into temptation.” God is the cause of everything, even Satan. God has been leading people into temptation since the Garden of Eden. Otherwise, the trees of life and knowledge would have never been there. Matthew 12:1-8 Jesus thinks it’s okay to break his father’s laws, by breaking the Sabbath day. He states that he is basically exempt for such fiascoes and that he is Master of the Sabbath. John 3:17 Jesus contradicts himself when he says, “God didn’t send his son into the world to condemn it, but to save it.” Jesus seems to forget his own stories. [/b] |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 12:30am On Aug 04, 2016 |
So who is d messiah then? |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by ObaKlaz: 12:31am On Aug 04, 2016 |
I had to click on your siggy, and I saw just how obsessed you are with Christianity *lol*... This thread is DOA (Dead On Arrival)! 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:31am On Aug 04, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Of course it's Evil Bible  2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:32am On Aug 04, 2016 |
James 4:3 If your prayers are not answered, it’s your own damned fault. This is in direct contradiction to where Jesus says “seek and ye shall find, ask and it shall be known to you”. “If Jesus bears witness of himself his witness is true” John 8:14, “If I bear witness of myself it is not true.” John 5:31 “I am with you always, even unto the end of the world” (Matthew 28:20), versus “For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always” (Matthew 26:11 , Mark 14:7, John 12:  and “Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am thither ye cannot come” (John 7:34). Is this the kind of friend one can rely on?“And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her” (Mark 10:11 & Luke 6:18), versus “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery” (Matthew 19:9). In the book of Matthew, Jesus said a man could put away his wife if one factor– fornication–is involved. In Mark and Luke he allowed no exceptions. Jesus is quoted: “Judge not, and ye shall be not judged; condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven” (Luke 6:37 & Matthew 7:1), versus “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). Jesus stated men are not to judge but, then, allowed it under certain conditions. As in the case of divorce, he can’t seem to formulate a consistent policy. [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:34am On Aug 04, 2016 |
“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Matthew 27:46, (also note the time before crucification where Jesus prays for the “cup to passeth over me”) versus “Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour?’ No, for this purpose I have come to this hour” (John 12:27 RSV). Jesus can’t seem to decide whether or not he wants to die. One moment he is willing; the next he isn’t. In Luke 23:30 (“Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, fall on us, and to the hills, cover us”) Jesus quoted Hosea 10:8 (“…and they shall say to the mountains, cover us; and to the hills, fall on us”). And, like Paul, he often quoted inaccurately. In this instance, he confused mountains with hills. “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things. But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they know him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist” (Matthew 17:11-13). John the Baptist was beheaded, but Jesus was not. And what did John the Baptist restore? Nothing! We are told salvation is obtained by faith alone (John 3:18 & 36) yet Jesus told a man to follow the Commandments-Matthew 19:16-18 (saving by works)-if he wanted eternal life. In Luke 12:4 Jesus told his followers to “Be not afraid of them that kill the body.” But Matthew 12:14-16, John 7:1, 8:59, 10:39, 11:53-54, & Mark 1:45 show that Jesus consistently feared death. Jesus went out of his way to hide, run, and attempt escape from the Roman and Jewish authorities. [/b] 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:34am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Matthew 5:28 says to sin in “your heart” is considered a sin in itself. The messiah is supposed to be God incarnate, not able to sin, yet in Matthew 4:5 & Luke 4:5-9, Jesus was tempted by Satan in the desert, which is sinning in his heart. Jesus also took upon all the sins of the world during his crucifixion, so how can it be said that “Jesus was the perfect man without sin”? This would lead one to believe he was not the Messiah. Jesus told us to “Love your enemies; bless them that curse you,” but ignored his own advice by repeatedly denouncing his opposition. Matthew 23:17 (“Ye fools and blind”), Matthew 12:34 (“0 generation of vipers”), and Matthew 23:27 (“. . . hypocrites . . . ye are like unto whited sepulchres. . .”) are excellent examples of hypocrisy. Did the people of Jesus’ generation see any signs? (Matthew 12:38-40) Jesus announced that no signs would be given to that generation except the Resurrection itself. (Mark 8:12-13) Jesus announced that no signs would be given to that generation. (Mark 16:20) They went out preaching, and the Lord confirmed the word through accompanying signs. (John 20:30) Jesus provided many wonders and signs. (Acts 2:22) Jesus provided many wonders and signs. (Acts 5:12 & 8:13) many signs and wonders were done through the apostles. Jesus commands the disciples to go into Galilee immediately after the resurrection. Matthew 28:10 Jesus commands the disciples to “tarry in Jerusalem” immediately after the resurrection. Matthew 28:18 & John 3:35 both tell that Jesus said he could do anything. Yet Mark 6:5 says Jesus was not all powerful. [/b] |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by ObaKlaz: 12:35am On Aug 04, 2016 |
blessedvisky:It's easy to google, copy and paste anything. He/she should tell us who the Messiah is, then we can have a sound discuss on that! 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:35am On Aug 04, 2016 |
Jesus says in Luke 2:13-14 that he came to bring peace on earth. Matthew 10:34 Jesus back peddles and says he did not come to bring peace on earth. Did Christ receive testimony from man? “Ye sent unto John and he bare witness unto the truth. But I receive not testimony from man.” John 5:33-34 “And ye shall also bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.” John 15:27 Christ laid down his life for his friends. John 15:13 & 10:11 Christ laid down his life for his enemies. Romans 5:10 Deuteronomy 23:2 says that bastards can not attend church unto the tenth generation. If Jesus was spawned by Mary and Jehovah as the Bible claims then he is technically a bastard and should not be the leader of the church. |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:35am On Aug 04, 2016 |
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| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 12:38am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1: sonOfLucifer , why did you deactivate your accounts ? You are just regurgitating the contents of that site . I'm 99.9 percent sure you don't even understand what you are posting . When these christians arrive , can you defend this garbage ? Its gona be another opprobrium for a desperate atheist . 5 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:40am On Aug 04, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Hey I aint son of... swerve 3 Likes |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:43am On Aug 04, 2016 |
blessedvisky: ObaKlaz:They is no Messiah!! 2 Likes |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:46am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1:Most of the scripture you've quoted is Prophetic. That's all I can say for the sake of the true prophets that may stumble on this thread. It's not for the consumption of an atheist. |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 12:46am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1: Taa ... sharaap . July 31 was when this account was opened . And you are already active in the religion section attacking Christianity . Your username is for the Egyptians . sonOfLucifer . Dude , stop deceiving yourself . This is yet another God-hating Nairalander who opened a new account to give a semblance of growth . Pfft . Pathetically obsessed with God . 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:49am On Aug 04, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija: All this Ur dumb tatic eh..pls tackle the copy & paste Job first we all know U Christians are liar's!!7 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:50am On Aug 04, 2016 |
who is defending O I wan sleep abeg 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 12:52am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1: Oh no ... this is Elohim1 . Guy why did you deactivate your account after that Iceland thread ? I noticed your idiosyncrasies - the solecism , the coloured text and of course your plagiarized work . Damn . 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:53am On Aug 04, 2016 |
[size=18pt] In Mark 8:35 Jesus said: “…but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel’s the same shall save it.” How could Jesus have said this when there was no gospel when he lived? The gospel did not appear until after his death.[/size] 2 Likes |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Nobody: 12:54am On Aug 04, 2016 |
KingEbukaNaija:Keep guessing 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 12:55am On Aug 04, 2016 |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by Niflheim(m): 12:55am On Aug 04, 2016 |
"So who is the messiah?".................................WRONG QUESTION!!! "So what is the messiah?".................CORRECT QUESTION!!! ANSWER TO CORRECT QUESTION: Your brain!!! 5 Likes |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by blessedvisky(m): 1:01am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1: OK. So what next? |
| Re: Jesus Is Just A False Christ by KingEbukaNaija: 1:01am On Aug 04, 2016 |
AmenRa1: The gospel has two meanings and one is the teaching of Christ . The other meaning is the account of His life . In Mark 8 : 35 , Christ used "gospel" to refer to his teachings . Oh dear , this will certainly end in a debacle for you . |
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