mayor2013:
Can I participate?

sultaan:
DO you mean you need a way to turn on an engine on a water pump and turn it off when the tank is full?
Also turn pump on when tank reaches a set level?

you will need level probes hooked to an auto starter on your engine like how air compressors work with pressure on those tanks

baconline:
If its just turn it off, replace the fuel switch with a electric switch which u can operate from within the house by connecting a wire to it and its being powered by the same current generated by d gen, when u want it off activate the switch ,gen goes off after a minute
Also u could change the on/off button to a electromechanical switch which u could control from within the house,
U actually have over 3 ways to do this, need much typing to do, don't have d time, not interested in your recharge card but I love it when I see a challenge

EgunMogaji:

We have the closest answer here.
All you guys with your elaborate schemes.
All you need to do is:
1) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the gen that grounds the spark plug to the engine block
or
2) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the switch on the gen. Find the ground wire and split it into thus new switch.
Always try to apply the KISS principle

baconline:

All what u have said is still what the on/off button does,so I am still right, also turning off the generator without killing the fuel supply could be dangerous

EgunMogaji:


We have the closest answer here.

All you guys with your elaborate schemes.

All you need to do is:

1) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the gen that grounds the spark plug to the engine block

or

2) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the switch on the gen. Find the ground wire and split it into thus new switch.

Always try to apply the KISS principle

sultaan:


This is the year of our lord 2016, I would have done that in the 70's but technology has given us the opportunity to do more.

The fellow who suggested putting just enough fuel would have won because that comes closest to Keeping It Simple and Smart.

No elaborate wiring no getting up to flip a switch either

EgunMogaji:


Nope, the fuel angle is completely ridiculous. I specifically stated that "You don't want to always get up to turn it off." I could have stated "how to measure enough gas to last x hours so that my engine can run itself completely dry".

If I was going to do it I would use a remote control to start and stop the engine. Something that I've been using in my cars since 2003

This was to settle an argument that you need a generator with an electric starter to remotely turn it off. Starving the engine of electrical current is as KISS as can be. But i'm from a practical school though and not academical.

nurey:

Even our sadist lecturer gave marks (recharge card) for attempting a question, why is yours different lol

EgunMogaji:


We have the closest answer here.

All you guys with your elaborate schemes.

All you need to do is:

1) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the gen that grounds the spark plug to the engine block

or

2) mount a switch indoors with a wire back to the switch on the gen. Find the ground wire and split it into thus new switch.

Always try to apply the KISS principle

honmusa:

Case 1.I need to know how you intend to use the spark ignition as the switching for the whole system cos that is a poor design from a scientific point of view if what I am thinking is what u intend to do .
Case 2 ,nobody does switching on a ground terminal part of a wire ,remember this is AC not DC.And if you are switching from the ground terminal ,the equipment is already a live wire .Serious safety issue here !!!!!

EgunMogaji:


You're over thinking it. Zero safety issue.

All my vehicles have such manual kill switch that I manually install.

That you're challenging my thesis speaks volume to me.

YMMV.

honmusa:

Manual kill switch on a automobile can be taken from either side cos this is DC system but on AC system as your thesis suggests ,kill switch should only be taken from positive circuit in order to isolate the load from the live curcuit.
I am not interested in challenging your thesis ,I only raise an innocent observation .Pls accept it in good faith and let move on .

EgunMogaji:
You have a basic internal combustion engine that powers a dynamo in this case but could be powering a water pump, grinding machine, etc

You don't want to always get up to turn it off.

How will you accomplish this and how much will the parts to do this cost in Nigeria?

A basic engine as used in small gen, etc

**Free phone recharge on any Nigerian provider to the first concise submission.

Oh, the usual suspects like Gazzuzz and co of course are exempt from participation but will help selecting the right answer.

EgunMogaji:
You have a basic internal combustion engine that powers a dynamo in this case but could be powering a water pump, grinding machine, etc

You don't want to always get up to turn it off.

How will you accomplish this and how much will the parts to do this cost in Nigeria?

A basic engine as used in small gen, etc

**Free phone recharge on any Nigerian provider to the first concise submission.

Oh, the usual suspects like Gazzuzz and co of course are exempt from participation but will help selecting the right answer.

LeJeun3:






From ur description the system has to be electrically operated.

A small generator (I better pass my neighbor), won't accept a kick starter....


But if the source of power was aside the system then we have a go.

Denn:



Step 1.
install a water level circuit breaker in the water tank. this device cuts off power once a certain water level is reached.

step 2.
run the water level breaker switch into main ignition line

step 3. instal two wireless relay kits into the circuit that provides electric power to the starter and pump. the relay to the pump power supply is activated by one and the kick starter is activated by the press of the button on the other. the first must have a toggle switch that keeps power on while the relay to the kick starter must switch off once button is released.

step 4.
inspect all connections and ensure proper seals, wire gauges and connections are made/used.

step 5.
toggle on the power relay and press remote on kick starter relay. engine starts and powers the water pump. when filled, the water level circuit breaker cuts of power. if you want to stop the pump before tank is filled, simply toggle off power via the first remote.

step 6.
i use glo network and i appreciate recharge card instead of online airtime loading as i can get double bonus.

thank you

EgunMogaji:


You can always say that you don't know how to get it done.

All internal combustion engines operates the same way and need three things to operate, take one away and they stop.

I'll move on when I'm ready to, not because you decreed so.

honmusa:

How on earth can u put a kill switch at the secondary ignition side for switching purposes .That side can generate up to 110000 voltage ,that is too a dangerous side to tamper with,have u heard of back emf .That you did it and get away with it doesn't means it is the right thing .
Check wiring diagrams to see how is being done .

EgunMogaji:


You're killing me over here with this your elaborate scheme.

Denn:


That is a diplomatic way of not addressing my Glo recharge card.

I could have provided a detailed diagram but that is dependent on first acknowledging my response

EgunMogaji:


All internal combustion engines have electricity to provide spark to the spark plug.

Kick starter not in the equation at all.