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Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by forgiveness: 12:06am On Aug 11, 2016
Seun:
In the Old Testament, God personally asked the Israelites to stone a man for gathering firewood on the sabbath day, but in the New Testament, Jesus blasts the Pharisees for being too strict about keeping the sabbath and allows his disciples to break it in letter, if not in spirit, repeatedly. After he died, Christians were permitted to disregard the sabbath completely. How did the God who personally oversaw the execution of a man for picking firewood on the sabbath suddenly change into a God that doesn't particularly care whether people keep the sabbath or not? The reason he gave for wanting people to keep the sabbath - that he created the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th - certainly still applies.


Another difference is that the God of the Old Testament really hates foreskins - even though he created them! Even before his covenant with the Jews, he commanded his followers such as Abraham to circumcise their children. There's a bizarre incident in Exodus where God was literally trying to kill Moses over this issue of circumcision. This was when Moses was on his way to Egypt after God called him to free the Jews:


How could God go from almost killing the great prophet Moses for not circumcising his son to inspiring Apostle Paul to write the words below?

Sabbath is the shadow of Jesus. 'I am the Lord of Sabbath' Moreover, the law was given by Moses but grace came through Jesus. So, you are free to choose one.

Foreskin is the removal of flesh, that is to cut off flesh from the skin which spiritual means removing the flesh (distrust, canal etc) from the heart. 'circumcision is of the heart'



KJV:But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
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KJV:Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
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KJV:But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.


The genesis is what you need to know Sir then you will understand.
Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by Seun(m): 10:17am On Aug 11, 2016
Aaronsrod:
The white man has given us medicine, roads and science. He gave us Jesus to take us from devil worship and killing twins and human sacrifice. It its time to be humble and learn. I advice you to fast and pray and beware that God is a consuming fire as well as a God of love.
The white man has also moved beyond Jesus, towards reality and science and liberalism. Why can't we follow them in that direction as well?

forgiveness:
Sabbath is the shadow of Jesus. 'I am the Lord of Sabbath' Moreover, the law was given by Moses but grace came through Jesus. So, you are free to choose one.
Exodus 20:11 says that God made the Sabbath a holy day because he rested from creating the universe on that day. If Jesus was the son of the Old Testament God, he would've known that the sabbath is very important to his Father. Instead of being a Lord of the Sabbath who permitted people to break the sabbath, he would've been a Lord of the Sabbath who encouraged people to keep God's precious Sabbath.

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Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by KazukiIto(m): 10:36pm On Aug 11, 2016
In the words of Gin Rummy in Boondocks: "There are known knowns and there are known unknowns. There are also unknown unknowns, things that we don't know that we don't know." Instead of we encouraging ourselves to better humanity by our conducts, we are busy discussing about a complete incomprehensible being. We barely understand fellow humans, but we are so sure about the thinkings and workings of a being we can't even see. "He is wicked", "He is kind", "He is love" ... Utter rubbish. Have you seen him before? Just let some things be and do what you can. We have only one life, live it according YOUR goals. Stop bothering about an incomprehensible being.
Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by Vendoor(f): 10:15am On Aug 13, 2016
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Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by stonemasonn: 1:00pm On Aug 13, 2016
The Old Testament was put together probably by Ezra and some other Babylonian Jews as a book of propaganda to rally around the Jews and make them feel bigger than what they were.

It's an ancient psychology and mind control tactics that can draw people together for a common course like the tower of Babylon.


The emperor Constantine deployed the tactics with the Bible.


The Arabs powerful Umayyad dynasty perfected it with the Quran.

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Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by jerryism(m): 1:39pm On Aug 13, 2016
U're not the first to raise this issue/topic, People like Macion also raised this same issue and early church father like:Tertullian av countered issues like dis in his time y don't u trace back to early church history n u will get a better ans. Macion teachings was known as Macionism the concept was that Jesus reveal to the world an unknown God who was different from that of the Hebrew Bible. According to Macion, the God of the Hebrew Bible, was jealous, wrathful and legalistic the material world he created was defective in place of suffering , the God who made the world was malicious demiurge. Jesus was not the Messiah promised by Judaism, that the Messiah was to be a conqueror and a political leader/messiah. Macion said God cannot be good at the same time evil, for in the old testament he was evil(he killed people,without mercy and use war as a weapon to punish) and in the new testament good(Dualism).
Macion was a native of Sinope(Turkey) he was a wealthy ship owner, he was a son of a Bishop, who was excommunicated on the ground of immorality. He eventually found his way to Rome and became a major financial supporter in the church in Rome.
In the next few yrs after is arrival in Rome, he worked out is theological system and began to organize is followers into separate community. He was excommunicated by the church at Rome in 144BC from then on, he used Rome as a base of his operations, devoting his gifts for organisation and the wealth to the propagation of his teachings and the establishment of compact communities throughout the Roman Empire. He used his wealth to separate the old testament bible from the new one. Daz y up till date u see d new testament bible circulating around.
In a nutshell, the bible and things of God( Christianity) is not subjected to reasoning. If u want to reason meet the philosophers.
Tertullian quote: as they are heretic they cannot be true christians because it is not from christ, thus not being christian they have acquired no right to the christian scriptures. To me u r a gnostic and u believe in dualism. Therefore, all u are saying is Heresy
Re: The God Of Old Testament And That Of New Testament Cannot Be The Same by Scholar8200(m): 2:26pm On Aug 13, 2016
Vendoor:
The Bible God of Old Testament often command israelites his people to destroy their neighbors (Moabites, Philistines, e.t.c). Thus sayest thy Lord to the King through The prophet. Then, hundreds of Thousands of armies match into the battle field with heavy losses from both side. Sometimes, the israel God fortify his own with extra power to destroy their Neighbors. The reason because they are unbelievers and offcause, some other hidden motives.
Did God at anytime empower these other nations too to fight the Israelites (His People)? If yes, why? This will help you get the rationale behind it all.


The New Testament on the other hand suggest that God want us to love our neighbors just as we love ourselves, Thus a God of peace and love, not war.
IS there any quote in the Ot that suggests God commanding His People to love strangers?


And the act of killing must be avoided at all course. Well, the bringer of the second message was brutally murder because his words did not align with God of the Old Testament. Thus, his message became a threat to the existing priestly and prophetic ordinances of israel.
Can you sincerely and Scripturally prove the highlighted text?


Blending these two Gods together was the biggest blonder made by early christians and you trying to classify both as one today will be the most illogical conclusion you will ever arrived.


Just try it, I'm waiting!
Why then were the Prophecies given by God in the OT fulfilled in the NT if your topic is correct?

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