HardMirror:

Yes I have and I have also watched Valentino's videos on youtube exposing ALL the tricks Chris Angel uses. Just type "THE MASKED MAGICIAN" on youtube and enjoy!

You will be shocked at how easy it is too fool humans.

All the tricks exposed and even more unbelievable ones too.

Problem is you people don't research, u believe everything you see and hear

thesicilian:

typing. a minute pls..
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Like I said, the world is spiritual, much more spiritual than physical. Take the human body for example. What is the difference between a dead man and a live man? How come the dead man still has his organs - eyes, heart, kidneys, brain etc but can no longer function? Because that part that is invisible, the spirit and the soul, has left him. We can't "prove" the spirit or soul exist, but we all know and believe they are there. Why? because we see the effect, and what happens when you take them away.
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The same way a perfectly working light bulb will not come on unless there is electricity. We can feel the effect of electricity, but we cant see it. But we know they are there.
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Now let me take your points one by one and tell you of personal encounters:
Miracles - I have seen with my own eyes countless miracles. I once saw well known a mad man on the streets receive his healing after being prayed for by a pastor. I have also seen a little girl being exorcised of terrible demons.
African bullet proof/Satanist - Now as for bullets I haven't seen. But my own personal experience with a "traditional worshipper" is this: I once had a man who was injured in am accident. He fell of his motorcycle and sustained deep cuts on his leg that needed to be repaired/sewn/stitched in the hospital. Now here is the part that was a little ironic: When he fell, his skin was torn. But when it was time to stitch his leg with a needle, no needle could penetrate. In the end he ordered us all out of the room, nobody knows what he did but when he called us back in minutes later, we were able to stitch with ease and stop the bleeding... I myself may not have believed if I was told. Till today its the only case I have seen.
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There are many things that are beyond our comprehension, and it will only show a great lack of wisdom to try to explain it in physical terms. A man threatens to deal with his neighbor, days later the neighbour ends up with a stroke. All investigation in the hospital proves the man is 'perfectly normal'. But this man is dying of a stroke. No drug is working. Then he gets prayed for by a pastor and he's back on his feet at that instant. And you say you don't believe in the spiritual?

HardMirror:

Demon possession is a psychological thing it is not real.
I was once a pastor and casted "demons"

Even when I stopped believing God and could not tell my church members I was till casting demons.

I once had a deep discussion with a girl I delivered from witchcraft. I asked her a lot of questions and I discovered it's psychological. They don't have any real powers, they can't hold meetings in the spirit world. They only think they do.

As I said in the op give a witch a written message isolate her in a room and ask her to read the message to her counterparts in their meeting. Then go and ask the counterparts what the message is. you will realize they are not what they claim to be. Cos they can't pass this test

thesicilian:

typing. a minute pls..
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Like I said, the world is spiritual, much more spiritual than physical. Take the human body for example. What is the difference between a dead man and a live man? How come the dead man still has his organs - eyes, heart, kidneys, brain etc but can no longer function? Because that part that is invisible, the spirit and the soul, has left him. We can't "prove" the spirit or soul exist, but we all know and believe they are there. Why? because we see the effect, and what happens when you take them away.
***
The same way a perfectly working light bulb will not come on unless there is electricity. We can feel the effect of electricity, but we cant see it. But we know they are there.
***
Now let me take your points one by one and tell you of personal encounters:
Miracles - I have seen with my own eyes countless miracles. I once saw well known a mad man on the streets receive his healing after being prayed for by a pastor. I have also seen a little girl being exorcised of terrible demons.
African bullet proof/Satanist - Now as for bullets I haven't seen. But my own personal experience with a "traditional worshipper" is this: I once had a man who was injured in am accident. He fell of his motorcycle and sustained deep cuts on his leg that needed to be repaired/sewn/stitched in the hospital. Now here is the part that was a little ironic: When he fell, his skin was torn. But when it was time to stitch his leg with a needle, no needle could penetrate. In the end he ordered us all out of the room, nobody knows what he did but when he called us back in minutes later, we were able to stitch with ease and stop the bleeding... I myself may not have believed if I was told. Till today its the only case I have seen.
***
There are many things that are beyond our comprehension, and it will only show a great lack of wisdom to try to explain it in physical terms. A man threatens to deal with his neighbor, days later the neighbour ends up with a stroke. All investigation in the hospital proves the man is 'perfectly normal'. But this man is dying of a stroke. No drug is working. Then he gets prayed for by a pastor and he's back on his feet at that instant. And you say you don't believe in the spiritual?

VictorRomanov:
I am not here to defend unfounded news and stories, just want to ask a question.



Do u know Chris Angel and have u watched any of his shows, how do u think he does what he does?

VictorRomanov:



Well i don't know ur gain is by being rude. One thing i know is that it does a bad job at convincing people.

I am having a more civilized discussion with someone else here. So enjoy ur rudeness.

WORDWORLD:


A very LAZY excuse. I must HONESTLY say.............infact a CRUDE way of running away from a CIVILIZED discussion.

For how long do people want to be pulled like PUPPETS. All because we are not willing to ACCEPT THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH.

Was HardMirror being RUDE. The answer is AN ABSOLUTE NO!

Except if telling the TRUTH is your defination of being RUDE.

HardMirror:

You say man is alive because of his spirit right?
So why is it that if I grab your neck and hold it tightly depriving your brain of oxygen, you will be dead under 10minutes? If we are alive because of our spirits why does the spirit not just hang in there while the choking is going on. Why can a simple thing such as choking kill a man that is alive by means of a spirit that can't be choked?

thesicilian:

typing. a minute pls..
***
Like I said, the world is spiritual, much more spiritual than physical. Take the human body for example. What is the difference between a dead man and a live man? How come the dead man still has his organs - eyes, heart, kidneys, brain etc but can no longer function? Because that part that is invisible, the spirit and the soul, has left him. We can't "prove" the spirit or soul exist, but we all know and believe they are there. Why? because we see the effect, and what happens when you take them away.
***
The same way a perfectly working light bulb will not come on unless there is electricity. We can feel the effect of electricity, but we cant see it. But we know they are there.
***

Now let me take your points one by one and tell you of personal encounters:
Miracles - I have seen with my own eyes countless miracles. I once saw well known a mad man on the streets receive his healing after being prayed for by a pastor.

I have also seen a little girl being exorcised of terrible demons.

African bullet proof/Satanist - Now as for bullets I haven't seen. But my own personal experience with a "traditional worshipper" is this: I once had a man who was injured in am accident. He fell of his motorcycle and sustained deep cuts on his leg that needed to be repaired/sewn/stitched in the hospital. Now here is the part that was a little ironic: When he fell, his skin was torn. But when it was time to stitch his leg with a needle, no needle could penetrate. In the end he ordered us all out of the room, nobody knows what he did but when he called us back in minutes later, we were able to stitch with ease and stop the bleeding... I myself may not have believed if I was told. Till today its the only case I have seen.
***

There are many things that are beyond our comprehension, and it will only show a great lack of wisdom to try to explain it in physical terms. A man threatens to deal with his neighbor, days later the neighbour ends up with a stroke. All investigation in the hospital proves the man is 'perfectly normal'. But this man is dying of a stroke. No drug is working. Then he gets prayed for by a pastor and he's back on his feet at that instant. And you say you don't believe in the spiritual?

4kings:

When the heart stops; death comes, not spirit leaving the body. If it was so, the "spirit" would not be affected by bodily diseases.


That depends on the mental state. Even psychological manipulations[Placebos], have been used to cure this kind.


HardMirror has addressed this. [Its just mental condition] Check anti-nmda encephalitis.


So this man's skin was ripped apart by the intense collision with the road or any other object, but a tiny needle could not penetrate.
If your story is true, something definitely was odd, but it was not spiritual; else he wouldn't need to be healed by "mere mortals".


This is "Nollywood/Africa Magic".
If truly, a man(let's say he is abroad) is "dying" and no medical condition or irregularity in the body system is identified, it would be "the eight wonder if the world". . Don't mind our superstitious and lazy doctors here.
***********
About your other statement; "Coincidence" happens.

KingEbukasBlog:
Hardly any intellectual debate on any thread created by the owner of this thread .


The obsession continues

efismikoko:
. My Exact taught on the man that his skin got ripped apart ,,,,,you get plenty sense bro

4kings:

Mr. Cop-Out

KingEbukasBlog:


Because of some easily refutable puerile thoughts from an atheist ? Some attention -seeking dude is making daft claims and you think its worth anyone's time ?

Nah bro

4kings:

Mr. Cop-Out in action


If u think his claims are "easily" refutable, then "please" refute them; I would love to Learn also

KingEbukasBlog:


Because of some easily refutable puerile thoughts from an atheist ? Some attention -seeking dude is making daft claims and you think its worth anyone's time ?

Nah bro

KingEbukasBlog:


Nope . I won't its the second page , close to 200 views - so its not worth it .

VictorRomanov:
I am not here to defend unfounded news and stories, just want to ask a question.



Do u know Chris Angel and have u watched any of his shows, how do u think he does what he does?

VictorRomanov:



I'll do that. I am sure u ve also seen youtube videos of people posting their demon possesion videos or those of others....u have any thoughts on that.

naijadeyhia:



Nobody really bothers or breaks a sweat over hardmirror anymore especially since all he has to offer is personal hatred for anything and everything good. He is now the complete opposite in character from when he claimed he was a pastor which even that claim has come with absolutely zero proof....

I came and viewed the OP and saw its normal predictable content and just ignored it.

He believes nothing Of God is real. ..we believe it is Real...

He believes the supernatural is crap

We believe it is not but in all that God trumpts the rest

He believes that he was a fake pastor even when he claimed to be a pastor

Personally I concur because i have seen many fake pastors like him too...so no biggy

I do not really engage in all topics as I carefully assess that which is worth my time and intellectual contribution. ....no be by force


Bottom line. ...Life is all about Choices...you can choose to board a jet to europe or you can choose to brave the sea to enter as an illegal immigrant....All in all there is always a law governing both scenarios and the punishment does not change for anyone.

Nice thread OP...as you have succeeded in showing once again that your issues are personal and have nothing to do with God....fix your car and finish your journey in comfort....you were given a vessel that is not perfect but able to go through maintenance (if u so choose) it does not become the fault of the manufacturer when you abuse the vessel and still expect it to produce same result..... if you prayed and attempted casting out demons and it never worked then you up and declare a eureka moment that God is false then that is your problem because with every false prophet we see many real ones.

Your case is like that of a fly who thought itself strong and better than man simply because it has wings so decided to mock man at every turn because it just became a fly so the experience is new...older flies keep warning it via experience but it refuses to heed.....

Enjoy your fly moment while it lasts......Since you claim to be an ex pastor then you can help me with finishing my analogy...

The OP or anyone else should not quote me..

Ebuka my brother....life na choice...no be person wey gree say the thing wey dey the side of his head na ear na him go hear? Even person wey gree go still decide to use hand block am so e no go hear....Abi u don see where stone use im own hand baf before? Or where sand use im own leg change location from lagos to abuja?

My brother the bible has said it all...Let He that has an ear, hear what the spirit is saying.....

Goodnight!

naijadeyhia:



Nobody really bothers or breaks a sweat over hardmirror anymore especially since all he has to offer is personal hatred for anything and everything good. He is now the complete opposite in character from when he claimed he was a pastor which even that claim has come with absolutely zero proof....

I came and viewed the OP and saw its normal predictable content and just ignored it.

He believes nothing Of God is real. ..we believe it is Real...

He believes the supernatural is crap

We believe it is not but in all that God trumpts the rest

He believes that he was a fake pastor even when he claimed to be a pastor

Personally I concur because i have seen many fake pastors like him too...so no biggy

I do not really engage in all topics as I carefully assess that which is worth my time and intellectual contribution. ....no be by force


Bottom line. ...Life is all about Choices...you can choose to board a jet to europe or you can choose to brave the sea to enter as an illegal immigrant....All in all there is always a law governing both scenarios and the punishment does not change for anyone.

Nice thread OP...as you have succeeded in showing once again that your issues are personal and have nothing to do with God....fix your car and finish your journey in comfort....you were given a vessel that is not perfect but able to go through maintenance (if u so choose) it does not become the fault of the manufacturer when you abuse the vessel and still expect it to produce same result..... if you prayed and attempted casting out demons and it never worked then you up and declare a eureka moment that God is false then that is your problem because with every false prophet we see many real ones.

Your case is like that of a fly who thought itself strong and better than man simply because it has wings so decided to mock man at every turn because it just became a fly so the experience is new...older flies keep warning it via experience but it refuses to heed.....

Enjoy your fly moment while it lasts......Since you claim to be an ex pastor then you can help me with finishing my analogy...

The OP or anyone else should not quote me..

Ebuka my brother....life na choice...no be person wey gree say the thing wey dey the side of his head na ear na him go hear? Even person wey gree go still decide to use hand block am so e no go hear....Abi u don see where stone use im own hand baf before? Or where sand use im own leg change location from lagos to abuja?

My brother the bible has said it all...Let He that has an ear, hear what the spirit is saying.....

Goodnight!

4kings:

When the heart stops; death comes, not spirit leaving the body. If it was so, the "spirit" would not be affected by bodily diseases.


That depends on the mental state. Even psychological manipulations[Placebos], have been used to cure this kind.


HardMirror has addressed this. [Its just mental condition] Check anti-nmda encephalitis.


So this man's skin was ripped apart by the intense collision with the road or any other object, but a tiny needle could not penetrate.
If your story is true, something definitely was odd, but it was not spiritual; else he wouldn't need to be healed by "mere mortals".


This is "Nollywood/Africa Magic".
If truly, a man(let's say he is abroad) is "dying" and no medical condition or irregularity in the body system is identified, it would be "the eight wonder if the world". . Don't mind our superstitious and lazy doctors here.
***********
About your other statement; "Coincidence" happens.

4kings:

What's your p with the views.
Just share your knowledge to correct my ignorance, so that I won't embarrass myself outside.

Except you CAN'T

thesicilian:

Unfortunately, I am one of them.

A lot of what I have shared with you are from personal experience, not hearsay. I saw them live. When you get to experience them, you'll understand. And yes, I am also very well enlightened.

thesicilian:

typing. a minute pls..
***
Like I said, the world is spiritual, much more spiritual than physical.

Take the human body for example. What is the difference between a dead man and a live man? How come the dead man still has his organs - eyes, heart, kidneys,

brain etc

but can no longer function?

[s]Because that part that is invisible, the spirit and the soul, has left him.[/s]

We can't "prove" the spirit or soul exist, but we all know and believe they are there.

Why? because we see the effect, and what happens when you take them away.

The same way a perfectly working light bulb will not come on unless there is electricity.

We can feel the effect of electricity, but we cant see it. But we know they are there.

Now let me take your points one by one and tell you of personal encounters:
Miracles - I have seen with my own eyes countless miracles. I once saw well known a mad man on the streets receive his healing after being prayed for by a pastor

I have also seen a little girl being exorcised of terrible demons

African bullet proof/Satanist - Now as for bullets I haven't seen. But my own personal experience with a "traditional worshipper" is this: I once had a man who was injured in am accident. He fell of his motorcycle and sustained deep cuts on his leg that needed to be repaired/sewn/stitched in the hospital. Now here is the part that was a little ironic: When he fell, his skin was torn. But when it was time to stitch his leg with a needle, no needle could penetrate. In the end he ordered us all out of the room, nobody knows what he did but when he called us back in minutes later, we were able to stitch with ease and stop the bleeding... I myself may not have believed if I was told. Till today its the only case I have seen.
***

There are many things that are beyond our comprehension, and it will only show a great lack of wisdom to try to explain it in physical terms. A man threatens to deal with his neighbor, days later the neighbour ends up with a stroke. All investigation in the hospital proves the man is 'perfectly normal'. But this man is dying of a stroke. No drug is working. Then he gets prayed for by a pastor and he's back on his feet at that instant. And you say you don't believe in the spiritual?

HardMirror:
[size=32pt]I have prayed for the lame, the blind, the dumb and I have NEVER seen them healed. I have prayed for those with malaria, fever, headaches, pains and many of them got healed. I later discovered that even scientists can replicate the same results. [/size]

4kings:

Oopss, [no offense!!!]

4kings:

Why is this case only common in this part of the world?

From someone's comment in the first page, we can see that most people actually believe tricksters, due a certain level of "Spiritual" influence. So have you ever considered the possibility that you MIGHT have judged the case wrongly?