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New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by babaearly(m): 10:19am On Oct 21, 2009
If you have been closely listening to Pastor Chris teachings you will know he is infusing the New Age teachings into the Bible. Well its not bad at all because it works still but its far cry from what the traditional christian teachings used to be e.g the catholics, methodist, baptist, lutheran and the old days pentecostal like deeper life, foursquare etc.

He preaches about meditation and visualization. That is the route to create your dreams and bring it to pass but differently from new age religions you are to thank God even before the dream becoames reality which he terms faith. What happened to the good old prayer for request or supplications?
His teachings tell you you are a god on earth and you dont need to "beg" God for anything because you are just like God getting anything you want.

Well it is much true per say in New Age religion but did Jesus really teach this kind of philosophy of meditation and visualization?


P.S: In Joshua 1:8 God was telling the Isrealites to meditate on the Law of Moses and not the Bible as Pastor Chris Oyakhilome claims. Take note.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by jagunlabi(m): 11:48am On Oct 21, 2009
babaearly:

Well it is much true per say in New Age religion but did Jesus really teach this kind of philosophy of meditation and visualization?
Yes,this was exactly what Jesus true teachings were,NEW AGE, meditation and stuff.Even though all those teachings were removed removed from the pages of the bible remnants of these teachings still remain if one looks closely enough.The non-canonical gospels are full of those new age teachings of christ. They were removed from the bible because the messages in those teachings were too empowering to the common man and the power that be did not want a populace that they could not control.
But things are changing now,the humankind(in the west,anyway) is evolving beyond the socalled "traditional" christian teachings which are nothing but empty dogma.
FYI,the catholic church has started retraining their priesthood enmasse to incorporate new age teachings into the catholic doctrine.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by fyneguy: 10:06pm On Oct 21, 2009
babaearly:

If you have been closely listening to Pastor Chris teachings you will know he is infusing the New Age teachings into the Bible. Well its not bad at all because it works still but its far cry from what the traditional christian teachings used to be e.g the catholics, methodist, baptist, lutheran and the old days pentecostal like deeper life, foursquare etc.

He preaches about meditation and visualization. That is the route to create your dreams and bring it to pass but differently from new age religions you are to thank God even before the dream becoames reality which he terms faith. What happened to the good old prayer for request or supplications?
His teachings tell you you are a god on earth and you dont need to "beg" God for anything because you are just like God getting anything you want.

Well it is much true per say in New Age religion but did Jesus really teach this kind of philosophy of meditation and visualization?


P.S: In Joshua 1:8 God was telling the Isrealites to meditate on the Law of Moses and [b]not the Bible [/b]as Pastor Chris Oyakhilome claims. Take note.

Confused Soul cry
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by donnie(m): 2:01am On Oct 22, 2009
babaearly:

If you have been closely listening to Pastor Chris teachings you will know he is infusing the New Age teachings into the Bible. Well its not bad at all because it works still but its far cry from what the traditional christian teachings used to be e.g the catholics, methodist, baptist, lutheran and the old days pentecostal like deeper life, foursquare etc.


I cant believe i was actually expecting you to at least mention the apostles of Jesus at this point. So you actually think that judgement will be based on denominational doctrines or styles of worship. You will be surprised on that day for the Word Himself shall be the judge!

babaearly:

He preaches about meditation and visualization. That is the route to create your dreams and bring it to pass but differently from new age religions you are to thank God even before the dream becoames reality which he terms faith. What happened to the good old prayer for request or supplications?

His teachings tell you you are a god on earth and you dont need to "beg" God for anything because you are just like God getting anything you want.

Well it is much true per say in New Age religion but did Jesus really teach this kind of philosophy of meditation and visualization?



Have you ever come across these words of Jesus?:

Mark 11:24
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray , believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.[/i]KJV

babaearly:

P.S: In Joshua 1:8 God was telling the Isrealites to meditate on the Law of Moses and not the Bible as Pastor Chris Oyakhilome claims. Take note

So is this also refering to the law of Moses:

[i]1 Tim 4:13-16
13 Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14 Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership. 15 Meditate on these things ; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.
NKJV

Phil 4:8-9
Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy — meditate on these things.
NKJV


Can you now see why we say you are confused? And the problem with you unbelievers is that instead of simply crying out for help you employ tactics to get christians to show you the wisdom of God. It is the same tactics your friend KunleOshob employs. Your post should have read: Somebody help! I have no understanding of the gospel of Jeusus and the teachings of his apostles. . .Help!!

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Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by babaearly(m): 2:33pm On Oct 22, 2009
jagunlabi:

Yes,this was exactly what Jesus true teachings were,NEW AGE, meditation and stuff.Even though all those teachings were removed removed from the pages of the bible remnants of these teachings still remain if one looks closely enough.The non-canonical gospels are full of those new age teachings of christ. They were removed from the bible because the messages in those teachings were too empowering to the common man and the power that be did not want a populace that they could not control.
But things are changing now,the humankind(in the west,anyway) is evolving beyond the socalled "traditional" christian teachings which are nothing but empty dogma.
FYI,the catholic church has started retraining their priesthood enmasse to incorporate new age teachings into the catholic doctrine.

If Jesus really preached New Age teachings then the Gnostics were right. New Age religion shows you that salvation comes by spiritual development and not by confessions of your mouth which the Gnostic Gospels like the Gospel of Mary, thomas and e.t.c were all about in different perspectives.

So we are right to say Pastor Chris teaches the New Age religion.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by KunleOshob(m): 2:53pm On Oct 22, 2009
donnie:


Can you now see why we say you are confused? And the problem with you unbelievers is that instead of simply crying out for help you employ tactics to get christians to show you the wisdom of God. It is the same tactics your friend KunleOshob employs. Your post should have read: Somebody help! I have no understanding of the gospel of Jeusus and the teachings of his apostles. . .Help!!
Rantings of a deluded mugun. Why are you bringing my name into this? If your pastor chris real needs teachings on salvation, he can contact me maybe as the devil has taken the drivers seat in his life.

babaearly:

If Jesus really preached New Age teachings then the Gnostics were right. New Age religion shows you that salvation comes by spiritual development and not by confessions of your mouth which the Gnostic Gospels like the Gospel of Mary, thomas and e.t.c were all about in different perspectives.

So we are right to say Pastor Chris teaches the New Age religion.
The man is just a good business man and he would preach anything his customers want to hear to keep them happy. As long as they are happy the money keeps rolling in through tights, offerings, first fruits, seed sowing, sales of filthy items such as tapes/CDs, delusional books and rhapsodies of unrealities
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by fyneguy: 6:49am On Oct 23, 2009
Kunle,

Yes o. The money keeps rolling in.

He doesnt need to open your kind of cybercafe for yahoo boys to come and defraud the public, while you smile to the bank.

Hypocrite!
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by donnie(m): 7:40am On Oct 23, 2009
Fyneguy

yap, he seems to me as such. . .

God had to knock Paul down on his way to Damascus. Paul was  zealous for God though.

Well, we will yet pray for him and his kind. Perhaps God has marked some of them for salvation. . . even if He may have to knock out some teeth . . . at least their souls might be saved.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by babaearly(m): 10:18am On Oct 23, 2009
donnie:

Fyneguy

yap, he seems to me as such. . .

God had to knock Paul down on his way to Damascus. Paul was zealous for God though.

Well, we will yet pray for him and his kind. Perhaps God has marked some of them for salvation. . . even if He may have to knock out some teeth . . . at least their souls might be saved.

Ah! so you believe you are saved, Hypocrite. we all have an ounce of it deny it or not you are a clear version of an hypocrite. We are all zealous for God and accept we are not all perfect including your pastor. Even Jesus said no one is Good except God.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Tonyet1(m): 1:20pm On Oct 23, 2009
@Poster,

Since you've seen straight explanations from someone here to answer the topic, wont it be rather nice you call the thread quit? undecided undecided or you want to turn it into another classroom session of slimings and baseless arguments?
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by uplawal(f): 2:17am On Oct 24, 2009
i even heard him says its not a miracle to wake up hale and hearty
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by mbaemeka(m): 4:40pm On Nov 03, 2009
@uplawal,

Is it?
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by viaro: 7:30pm On Nov 03, 2009
Em, donnie. . I tried to understand you. Are you a member of pastor Chris Oyakhilome's church? My mistake if you're not; it just strikes me that your defence on his behalf seems like one of his apologetic members. Anyway, small point.

I wondered about this in yours:

donnie:

Your post should have read: Somebody help! I have no understanding of the gospel of Jeusus and the teachings of his apostles. . .Help!!

Lol, but no. . that is far fetched. The OP has not argued that he does not understand the Gospel of Jesus or the teachings of his apostles. Rather, he is asking pertinent questions about what pastor Chris teaches from the Gospel - a vastly different thing altogether. anybody can make up some kind of teaching from the Gospels and the epistles; but if questions are asked, it does not mean that the enquirer is ignorant of the Gospel, but rather questioning the maverick who tries to propound new interpretations from that same Gospel.

Now, pastor Chris, according to the OP, has been delving into some esoteric teachings. Some of them are Biblically correct (IMO), but some of them are not so sound.

For example, the OP recognizes the value of meditation by quoting Joshua 1:8; but he wonders if pastor Chris' application of meditation is the same thing that Joshua was asked to do in that verse. If that was so, the simple inference would be that Joshua was not supposed to pray, but just create his own world and circumstances without relying on God! Second, it would mean that Joshua didn't get the hang of what he was being taught if pastor Chris was right in saying that his congregation should see themselves as "gods". Did Joshua see himself as a 'god' by meditating as he was asked to do in Josh. 1:8? A lot depends on your understanding and answer to this.

I don't think that other people should necessarily be declared confused just because they ask questions about certain denominational practices and beliefs. To reply the way you did ('Can you now see why we say you are confused?') sounds desperate. . unless I'm missing something here and mistaking you for one of pastor Chris' faithfuls.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by donnie(m): 10:49pm On Nov 03, 2009
Psalm 19:7

7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul;
The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple;
NKJV


Thanks for your opinion. However, if you want me to teach you the Word of God, I can if you'd ask politely.

Psalm 1

Blessed is the man
Who walks not in the counsel of the ungodly,
Nor stands in the path of sinners,
Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
And in His law he MEDITATES day and night.
3 He shall be like a tree
Planted by the rivers of water,
That brings forth its fruit in its season,
Whose leaf also shall not wither;
And whatever he does shall prosper.
4 The ungodly are not so,
But are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6 For the LORD knows the way of the righteous,
But the way of the ungodly shall perish.
NKJV
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by viaro: 11:35pm On Nov 03, 2009
donnie:

Thanks for your opinion. However, if you want me to teach you the Word of God, I can if you'd ask politely.

My apologies that my comments were considered impolite. And thanks for your offer. . might come in handy someday.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Easypizzy(f): 1:30pm On Nov 05, 2009
Hmmmm
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by karlie4nia(m): 12:01am On Nov 06, 2009
@ poster ur damn right.

i tot i was alone on this. Its cool averagely. Seems the man"s got deep spiritual insight that a hell lot of other xtian M.O.G don't seem to. He most times boldly says the koko where others keep quiet.Thought some times he can be a little tactical and superficial.He's cool.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by mbaemeka(m): 6:04pm On Nov 13, 2009
Lol, but no. . that is far fetched. The OP has not argued that he does not understand the Gospel of Jesus or the teachings of his apostles. Rather, he is asking pertinent questions about what pastor Chris teaches from the Gospel - a vastly different thing altogether. anybody can make up some kind of teaching from the Gospels and the epistles; but if questions are asked, it does not mean that the enquirer is ignorant of the Gospel, but rather questioning the maverick who tries to propound new interpretations from that same Gospel.

My dear viaro, I think u shud be careful when addressing issues like this particularly ones concerning the scriptures.
First and foremost,theres an astronomical difference btw a proposition and a revelation from the holy spirit. While the latter elucidates by making the simple, wise the former leaves the simple in a state I like to call spiritual confusion.
How do u mean? U may ask, well I’d tell u, Do u remember the words of Jesus in matt 21:21- “…if u have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree but u can also say to this mountain, go throw urself into the sea, and it will be done.22 if u beliv u will receive whateva u ask for in prayer”, well I have heard a lot of folks(including preachers) say that this was”(only) figurative and that the master didn’t really mean a mountain, but anyfin that presents itself as such. As nice as that sounds and logical,if I may add that is not what he said. He said simply-say to a mountain move and it will.period.
Am I discrediting their beliefs? An emphatic NO! just showing that they cud undermine the power of God by believing or endorsing somfin less than what God has said, if he said a mountain,he meant a mountain yet not only a mountain (both physical and figurative) but “WHATEVA” u ask for…u dig?
How does this apply to the matter above? Well, well, well in the book of Joshua 1:8
The word MEDITATE was actually rendered HAGAH-that’s Heb for muttering, brooding, talking consistently under ones breath. The English Lang didn’t have a perfect synonym for the word so bible students chose the word meditate (to think deeply usually in silence) u see how the meanings differ. Now pastor chris by the power of the holyspirit taught us to read the scriptures in context and then rightfully divide the word of truth. By doing so I came to the understanding that God wanted them to do more than just think deeply in silence but to hagah, mutter, talk consistently the book of the law. That’s y he said it shudnt depart out their mouth. It is more than keeping it in ur heart it’s about saying it for keeping it in ur heart is not enuff. Jesus said- u shall have what ye say….and also that , ”of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh”
This is not a new age teaching neither is it from a maverick who tries to propound new interpretations from that same Gospel.
If that was so, the simple inference would be that Joshua was not supposed to pray, but just create his own world and circumstances without relying on God!
Where is this comin frm? The bible says this book of the law…the law of the lord…
Have u eva come across this scripture Heb 13:5 , ”….for God has said I will not leave u nor forsake u so that we shall boldly say the lord is my helper of whom shall I fear?” U see God has said…so that we shall boldly say,

Second, it would mean that Joshua didn't get the hang of what he was being taught if pastor Chris was right in saying that his congregation should see themselves as "gods". Did Joshua see himself as a 'god' by meditating as he was asked to do in Josh. 1:8? A lot depends on your understanding and answer to this.

There we go again, where is this coming from? Cant u remember the words of Jesus- “…with men it is impossible but with God all things are possible, ” and then later he said, ”everyfin is possible for him who believes”, if everyfin is possible to God and everyfin is possible to him that believes doesn’t it show a close relationship with the believers and God i.e that all things are possible to them. This is what MEDITATING on the word does to u,it increases ur awareness,it awakens u to the fatherhood of God. It is what gave Joshua the audacity later on to command the sun and moon to stand still. Incase u didn’t knw it was what also made Jesus the way he was while he was on earth.what am sharing with u is called Christ consciousness:it’s a God consciousness that Christians shud have. Didn’t Jesus do the same when he commanded the storm to be still, a tree to dry frm its root-I mean his disciples where astonished they said “what manna of man is this”. Have u read about Abraham, Isaac, David even down to the apostle paul? Who declared by the holyspirit that he can do all things…don’t u knw that one whose born of God is a god just like one whose born of a dog is a dog?. Don’t u knw that the Christian is born of God? If Joshua didn’t have this God-mentality how cud he then do what he did? Even back then when he cudnt be born again. How much more can we do now that we have the holyspirit parambulating in us? 2cor 6:16 did u ever hear God speak thru d psalmist when he declared-“I have said ye are gods and all of u are children of the most high”, dear viaro, yes, yes, a thousand times yes Joshua knew what God meant and yes he meditated so,that’s y his progress was evident to all.Josh 10:14

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Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by seunmii(m): 7:42pm On May 25, 2010
first of all, the poster agrees that the man pastor chris is a man of God and that means he is functioning in an ffice ordained by God.
this brings me to the man David and Saul. even when God has rejected Saul as King over Isreal, David still respected the office as a result of the anointing on Him. hey, my poster, this is written for us to think about, who has made you judge over the house of God that you will speak against the man of God
i am very sure you would have rejected the teaching and the way of jesusChrist if you were alive in that age, he was a friend to sinners, that is what he said
and Jesus commanded that we should go into the world and make disciples of the sinners who have not received the salvation of god
my bro/sister included, let us wait for the coming of the judge Jesus Christ, he is the head of the church
and about traditional teaching, what do you know except what you have been taught? do you really study and meditate on the word of God?how many souls have you lead to Christ? get busy in the word of God and stop this criticism
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by CareTaker1(m): 11:37am On May 26, 2010
It is not a new teaching,there is a greater knowledge of the Person of God and a greater revelational understanding of His sayings, it depends on the interpretation and the interpreter, knowledge is increasing, people are coming to a more enlightened understanding. Its been there from the begining, when you pray, believe you recieve, you shall have. While we look not at the things that are seen but at the things that are not seen, for the things that are seen are temporary, but the things that are not seen are eternal. we are gods, what ever is born of flesh is flesh, what ever is born of Spirit is spirit. Except a man/woman be born again, he/she cannot see/understand these things because he/she lacks the authority/power to comprehend these things. As many as recieve HIM, to them He gave the power/authority to become the sons of God. We are empowered by God to become.

I'm a success!
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by eccentric(m): 1:37pm On May 26, 2010
My people perish for lack of knowlege. MEDIDATION as written in the bible means thinking on the word of God, reading etc and not the sort of medidation in New age teachings which emphasize on self-hypnosis and mind-clearing. If pastor Chris however is delving into the latter then I pity his followers. There are a handful of his teachings though which I do not approve of. This 'every christian must be healthy and wealthy' move of his is definitely not inspired by God. This teaching not only encourages the love of money but it also breeds a followership who no longer care much for salvation and heaven but to gain the whole world in riches and not in preparation for the afterlife. These kind of christians will only seek enjoyment and satisfaction and will not be able to survive trials and persecution without loosing faith. Little wonder so many beleivers are backsliding today. 'yea and all that will live godly in christ Jesus will suffer persection' II timothy 3:12. Remember that this persecution from the devil can come im many ways, financial,emotional, physical etc. A christian who believes in this ' health and wealth' for all doctrine will backslide and term God a liar when it is his turn to carry the cross of trial for christ. He will say but pastor chris said, PASTOR CHRIS IS ONLY A HUMAN BEING AND HE IS NOT IMMUNE TO THE DEVIL'S ANTICS. Read your bibles properly folks and get educated. Take heed to all of the words of Jesus Christ and not everything that Pastor Chris says!

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Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by CHARLOE(m): 3:57am On May 27, 2010
@ eccentric, tank u by brother, u captured it perfectly! CEC missed it when they teach A XTIAN CANNOT FALL SICK OR FAIL, BE POOR ETC For now we can fall sick, be broke (Paul had an infirmity, Timothy had stomach sickness and paul had to advise him to take some wine for it) and there's no record of d apostles been rich (not that there' anything wrong with been rich though). In short God sometimes let these things happen to us so we can learn some lessons eg most successful pple have experienced 1 failure or d other, learnt their lessons, b4 they finally made it.
  There will come a time when the bible says there won't be sickness or pain or death, not in this life though, but in the life to come (rev21:1-4,  rom8:18-23). God only allows some of us to experience some measure of this superhuman nature in this life as a type of what is to come in d life after (when the born sons of God shall finally be manifested, rom 8:19-23)
  When u teach that pple can experience this 'super human nature' in this life if they continue to sow one seed or d other and keep 'watering' d different seeds, it is no defferent from d 419 that promises u huge sums of money if only u sow a 'seed' into their phony biz deal.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by davidayo: 10:49am On May 27, 2010
Though this is critical. But the truth of the matter is this and the bible has said it all in the latter days, fulse prophets shall arise and will decieve the very elect. We just have to dicern the spirits. True and not true but i will categorically say that Pastor Chris Oyakhilome is an endtime prophet decieving the very elect. Sweet tongue that lies heart filled with evil. The truth should be said here pls is it right for a man of God that his flock looks upon to perm his hair you will expect same from his flocks. Or the situation where some membersof his financial institution in the course of their confession said they were pushed to the act cos of the message (riches) they heard. We should also note that we as a flock we look up to these people as god that is why they were chosen by God to lead us and we will follow their ways either good or bad. May God help us all to see the true light.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Ganjaseed: 11:53am On May 27, 2010
People, this is part of what I have been trying to pass across to fellow CEC members, Most members has little knowledge of the Bible but rather prefare Rhapsody of reality written by Chris and sweet talks of encouragement they hear from the pulpit, they never care to verify if what they heard is like that from the Holly Scripture. You can also see that here on nairaland forum, when you say anything about CEC church or Pastor Chris they will Begin to rain abuse on you even worse than a non christian (by their fruits we shall know them)

" One of the pastors of CEC in Holland was trying to convince the people to give towards the new building project in Lagos, preached a message concerning Lazarus" His statement was that Jesus was moved to raise Lazarus from the dead because the sister of Lazarus gave a very expensive perfum and anointed Jesus, that Jesus has no other option than to move with compassion and brought Lazarus their brother back to life. So, when you give to the Lord, the Lord will heal and restor you.

People, was this the reason Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead? ( You needed to see how members jumped up and shouted hallelujah!!!!!!!) Then i realised that not too many of them even know the story of Lazarus nor see the deceptive tactics there, just to make people give. hm
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by nuclearboy(m): 1:00pm On May 27, 2010
@GanjaSeed:

Bro, you sure what you're saying? Jesus was "forced" to compassion because they anointed him with an expensive perfume?

Okay, so here's what you're saying that pastor said: - The Lord of Glory OF HIS OWN VIOLITION left Heaven and ALL His Glory etc, became a baby in a poor woman engaged to a poor carpenter, grew up in a poor household in a situation where His people were treated more or less as slaves and second class citizens in their own land, was a person "despised", "not wanted" or of "any becoming attributes" to His own creation and lived like this for at least 30 years. Then one day, He was going out and someone decided to spray perfume on Him. This bribe "made" Him lose control and decide to "claim" and break the bands of death on a member of that family to show thanksgiving for "smelling good".

The Jesus Christ I believe in "became" excited because of perfume? shocked Me too needs to go buy some bloody expensive perfume. I don't even mind getting a cls550 (I'm sure that "kind of" Jesus will give me 10 Billion dollars in return). Basically then, that CE pastor turned Jesus into a motor park tout that you give 50 bucks and who would beat up anyone in your way.

I refuse to believe it. Here's hoping Joagbaje (being nearest CE pastor available) will come denounce that pastor as not being affiliated to CE.

Waiting,  waiting,  waiting!
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Ganjaseed: 1:38pm On May 27, 2010
@nuclearboy

I heard these words with my own ears, its not them say thing. I was very uncomfortable with it and I talked about it with my wife and we did a research of the Bible together and she was also surprised at the illustrations of the Pastor. They usually begone with a very fantastic topic but before long you will already know where he is aiming at. Babes of the word of GOD will never figure out this things am telling you that is why a lot of them do not see the deception.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by nuclearboy(m): 1:44pm On May 27, 2010
Sad sad sad.

I'd like to see what Joagbaje has to say about this though I won't be holding my breath. Such is usually ignored.

Sad cry
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by CareTaker1(m): 4:47pm On May 27, 2010
Personalising the word of God,

Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2nd Timothy 2:15

You will know, if and when its true or not, you will not be decieved if only you will not depend on the infallability of your fellow man (a Pastor).

What happens to your own knowledge, how do you test your knowledge, we know who we are, we know where we are from, we know where we are going, we know why we are where we are, we walk and function daily in knowledge, we cannot walking in darkness, we know what we are doing, you need to know what you are doing.

You are the one to make your way prosperous, not God-Joshua 1:8
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by petres007(m): 5:26pm On May 27, 2010
nuclearboy:

@GanjaSeed:

Bro, you sure what you're saying? Jesus was "forced" to compassion because they anointed him with an expensive perfume?

Okay, so here's what you're saying that pastor said: - The Lord of Glory OF HIS OWN VIOLITION left Heaven and ALL His Glory etc, became a baby in a poor woman engaged to a poor carpenter, grew up in a poor household in a situation where His people were treated more or less as slaves and second class citizens in their own land, was a person "despised", "not wanted" or of "any becoming attributes" to His own creation and lived like this for at least 30 years. Then one day, He was going out and someone decided to spray perfume on Him. This bribe "made" Him lose control and decide to "claim" and break the bands of death on a member of that family to show thanksgiving for "smelling good".

The Jesus Christ I believe in "became" excited because of perfume? shocked Me too needs to go buy some bloody expensive perfume. I don't even mind getting a cls550 (I'm sure that "kind of" Jesus will give me 10 Billion dollars in return). Basically then, that CE pastor turned Jesus into a motor park tout that you give 50 bucks and who would beat up anyone in your way.

I refuse to believe it. Here's hoping Joagbaje (being nearest CE pastor available) will come denounce that pastor as not being affiliated to CE.

Waiting,  waiting,  waiting!

shocked shocked cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin grin grin

I think Ganjaseed has mentioned this before but its still very sad to read it again.

@Ganjaseed,

I won;t be surprised if Joeagbaje shows up here and tells you that was not what the pastor said, that you "misheard" him grin grin grin
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Africankel(m): 8:48pm On May 27, 2010
Warm greeting to u all in the matchless name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
It is with glee that I make a comment, having read a few comments here. . .

@ babaearly, first of all let me point that you have already categorized Pastor Chris' style of teaching to a particular group "NEW AGE". . . I am glad you said with your mouth, "it is not bad" , But May I bring to your notice that Pastor Chris is preaching the "GOSPEL". . . Did you ever read in your bible where Jesus asked us do to these things that your so called Catholics, Baptists, Lutheran's and self styled Pentecostals? (By this, I don't mean to be insultive)
If you closely study the scriptures you will notice that Jesus only sent us to go into the world and preach the gospel (goodnews), which means to give hope to the hopeless, tell the love-peddler and criminal 'there's a better way of life' (not condemning them like your Penterascals and other groups will do).

On the issue of human being gods, did u ever read in the book of Genesis, "let us make man in our own image and in our likeness. . . What does that mean to you? The bible said, so God make man in HIS OWN image and likeness, we never heard that God changed his mind and made man to look like something is. No wonder John tells us, you are of God,. . .because greater is he that is in you. this portion of scripture using lexicons and a Greek dictionary, u'll see it means that "your origination is from God", now if that is true, aint you a god? Do lizards originate from snakes?

About meditation and visualizations, take your time, think of yourself as the owner of a conglomerate, let it soak your entity, and let me know if you are not inspired to be what you have just thought of.

@GanjaSeed: I am not doubting that you didnt hear those words, I am not also saying that you must have mis-heard him, the only thing I can say to u is that he probably might not have had a good story to back up his line of message. Pastor's make mistakes, or he probably understood that Jesus was moved because at one time Lazarus' sister had done something remarkable for Him (Jesus).

I cant argue with you on this. . . its just the Pastor's understanding. Everyone is entitled to his opinion.
Some other people might have gone home and searched the scripture like u did, and would have also come up with a different result from urs or the pastor's.

Thank You.

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Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Ganjaseed: 12:58pm On May 28, 2010
@Africankel:

You have spoken well my brother, I respect your contribution, this is how a true believer should approach issues like this. once again thank you and God bless you too.
Re: New Age Teachings Of Pastor Chris Oyakhilome. Is It Right? by Kx: 1:14pm On May 28, 2010
babaearly:

you are to thank God even before the dream becoames reality which he terms faith.

HAB 2:4 but the just shall live by his faith.
HEB 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
HEB 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

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