AngelAhnie:
Nice one
Nigerians didn't see this coming

Positiveminds:
KENYA IS BETTER THAN NIGERIA IS EVERY SPHERE , TRUE OR FALSE? LIKE IF TRUE, SHARE IF FALSE. THIS IS A POOL!

talktonase:
Mr cletus abi CL1T0ris or whatever your name is. What part of your body are you using to ask me to shut up?

Banee:
Obafemi Awolowo university teaching hospital complex did this in the past,the outcome was superb.check your fact well.

Litmus:
Would be great if African, unfortunately many of Kenya's noteworthy developments have Asians and Arabs at the root.

Bifwoli:


That commenter won't be as quick to tell the world how Lagos' biggest development ,the Eko Atalntic City, is the brainchild and money of Asians of Lebanese extraction.

The Chagoury Brothers are behind the biggest urban renewal of Lagos.

Bifwoli:


I bet a $1m bucks that you wouldn't say the same about Eko Atlantic project in Lagos.

That project is the brainchild and effort of Asian brothers of Lebanese descent.

Litmus:


Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls. And i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development. It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves and because, frankly there are better abroad. I am not one for self deceit or lies. We live now in a world where expertise can be viewed in modular terms. The British employed the former Canadian economist and finance minister for Governor of the bank of England. Nigeria could conceivably do the same because of the neutrality this would provide but not because we don't have financial experts.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish. Lebanese are welcomed but not necessary. Nigeria has the Native (meaning black people)doctors capable of any surgery any native Kenyan is capable of and also those their Indians and Arabs are capable of too. I so happen to like Kenyans, Ugandans and Ethiopians but the truth is Kenya relies heavily on Indians and Arabs. The difference is that Nigeria can do without Lebanese and Indians, we have the black expertise in almost every field.

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

Litmus:


Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls. And i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development. It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves and because, frankly there are better abroad. I am not one for self deceit or lies. We live now in a world where expertise can be viewed in modular terms. The British employed the former Canadian economist and finance minister for Governor of the bank of England. Nigeria could conceivably do the same because of the neutrality this would provide but not because we don't have financial experts.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish. Lebanese are welcomed but not necessary. Nigeria has the Native (meaning black people)doctors capable of any surgery any native Kenyan is capable of and also those their Indians and Arabs are capable of too. I so happen to like Kenyans, Ugandans and Ethiopians but the truth is Kenya relies heavily on Indians and Arabs. The difference is that Nigeria can do without Lebanese and Indians, we have the black expertise in almost every field.

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

Litmus:


Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls. And i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development. It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves and because, frankly there are better abroad. I am not one for self deceit or lies. We live now in a world where expertise can be viewed in modular terms. The British employed the former Canadian economist and finance minister for Governor of the bank of England. Nigeria could conceivably do the same because of the neutrality this would provide but not because we don't have financial experts.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish. Lebanese are welcomed but not necessary. Nigeria has the Native (meaning black people)doctors capable of any surgery any native Kenyan is capable of and also those their Indians and Arabs are capable of too. I so happen to like Kenyans, Ugandans and Ethiopians but the truth is Kenya relies heavily on Indians and Arabs. The difference is that Nigeria can do without Lebanese and Indians, we have the black expertise in almost every field.

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls

It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves........

nd i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

Litmus:


Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls. And i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development. It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves and because, frankly there are better abroad. I am not one for self deceit or lies. We live now in a world where expertise can be viewed in modular terms. The British employed the former Canadian economist and finance minister for Governor of the bank of England. Nigeria could conceivably do the same because of the neutrality this would provide but not because we don't have financial experts.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish. Lebanese are welcomed but not necessary. Nigeria has the Native (meaning black people)doctors capable of any surgery any native Kenyan is capable of and also those their Indians and Arabs are capable of too. I so happen to like Kenyans, Ugandans and Ethiopians but the truth is Kenya relies heavily on Indians and Arabs. The difference is that Nigeria can do without Lebanese and Indians, we have the black expertise in almost every field.

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

Hbuyosh:


This argument of yours is discordant as it is nonsensical. I cannot really believe all the trash u have written here, and u really regard yourself well educated? SMH

First u say:

Then u proceed to make this other rather puzzling statement: ......Like seriously??
U have exposed your own lack of faith in the capabilities of the local expertise in your following statement.... Meaning, u do not really believe that the Nigerian expertise really posses the skills.....



You, with all your wisdom and intelligence, can make that asinine statement.....unbelievable!
So, do u have the proof to back up your claims above? Can u show us any major infrastructural development carried out by the Nigerian "in depth native expertise" without relying on outside assistance?
Everybody knows that Nigeria is a country several times wealthier than Kenya, with Lagos alone claimed to be around twice as wealthy as Kenya, yet incidentally, Lagos is no London of Africa.
The country Nigeria still bears all the hallmarks of a third-world country, with reported rotten infrastructure, rotten social services with such basic services as electricity and water supply epileptic at best. In terms of development, Kenya's Nairobi is far developed than Lagos, and this despite (and this is the point)- the huge "in depth expertise" prevailing in Nigeria!

List the countries in terms of any aspect of development, and there is the largest economy in Africa always featuring prominently at the bottom of the registry.



Meaning u are basing your argument on assumptions, rather than on the facts. See how intellectually ret.arded u are? Are u saying that out of all these millions of well educated Kenyans, some whom have been trained in the universities abroad (and by the way, our Universities are ranked highly, above yours; just saying),none is well skilled in software development, that it only has to take the "pale skinned" people to do the job for us? Dude, u are crank!

Nigeria is the Africa's largest producer of oil in Africa......everybody who has been to school knows that. And anybody who has bothered to look closely into the sector will discover that it is by and large dominated by foreigners, the people from Europe and Asia. It is the foreign expertise, rather than the "in depth native expertise" that is involved in dredging the stuff on to the surface from the bowels of the earth, to transportation and marketing. Heck the commodity isnt even precessed in Nigeria. Your oil does not reall belong to u.

GERALD710:

A. There are very few Arab doctors in the city of Mombasa, which happens to have a very large Arab population. And is my home city.
And who told you Arabs in East Africa are not 'Native'
Arabs have been on the East African coast longer than the Bantu population there SMH. Arabs arrived in 325 B.C and the Bantus in 900 A.D.
They speak Swahili rather than Arabic and are considered as part and parcel of Kenya and Tanzania
Do not confuse our Arabs with yours who are immigrants and were not born in Nigerian and most do not know any Nigerian language.
As for Medical Expertise, 99.9% of all Medical workers in Kenya are of Black African extraction as our Universities hardly have any non African in the medical field . There are very few Indians or Arabs in the world of medicine, they mostly do business . Plus a simple google of KMTC or UoN school of Medicine and look at the pictures of the graduates and tell me which non African face you see there.
As for Software Development let us go through the list of what Kenya is famous for and their background
ICT Minister Joe Mucheru, former Head of Google Africa, Black African
Juliana Rotich-Co founder of Ushahidi as well as the BRCK multiple network router,Black
Calvince Okello- M-shamba,Black
Felix Kimaru-TotoHealth,Black(The above two won the ITU innovators competition this year.)
Sam Gichuru- Co-founder NaiLab
In fact from my research there are NO INDIAN OR ARAB founders of any ICT startup in Kenya. There are a few Kenyan Europeans however like Erik Hersman, the founder of iHub and a co founder of Ushahidi as well.
As a person born in Coast ,I can assure you that Kenya's famed ICT sector has a zero presence there thus there are NO ARABS involved in Kenya's ICT. Kenya's ICT is centred on Nairobi which has very few Arabs.
As for Indians' Kenya's Asians belong to the Business Class. They are from Northern India by ancestry. India's ICT industry is found in the South . We do not have indians from Southern India in Kenya, the British took those ones to South Africa.
Apart from the founders and owners A spot look at the entire ihub workforce(whose pictures you can find online) you will see that none is non African.
Kenya's ICT is driven by the fact that :
A.Kenya is more globalized. That is, we do not have issues with international investors.
B. Our own Government has a stake in the ICT infrastructure.In Nigeria, all sea cables are owned either by foreigners or by private companies like GLO.The Kenyan Government is the largest shareholder of the TEAMS cable.
C. Both the Government and overseas investors have poured money into training locals. For example Japan has trained our best ICT innovators as JKUAT (the best science university in Kenya) has received a lot of Japanese assistance in capacity building.
Japan does quality. That is why the likes of IBM ,Google,Nokia Siemens ,TechnoHub overlooked Nigeria as quality labour is guaranteed in Kenya courtesy of Japan.
The Government has also played a major role, setting aside areas purely for ICT activities. Like Konza Techno City.
P.S. Unlike your Eko Atlantic. Konza Techno City is a purely Kenyan Government initiative, being built by Kenyan contractors and funded by Kenyan taxpayers,thus negating your silly argument that Kenya does not have native expertise.
and the Sameer Business Park.
And we do not have a reputation for online theft like Nigeria. Why do you think Paypal now allows Kenyans to withdraw from Paypal to Equity Bank in 3 business days or why the likes of Skrill have an MPESA wallet that allows one to recieve cash on your phone in mere minutes??

Litmus:




Awe comeon, Kenya is owned by whites, Indians and Arab! Those people leave, your coffee, tea and wildlife industry collapses and Kenya ends up relying on the earnings of long distance runners and maybe flower sales and national dish will become, Masai cow-blood kebabs. All this is fact, one which no amount of swearing online will change.

Litmus:
Extract:

Kenya and the EU

The European Union is a longstanding partner of Kenya. The first formal link between the then European Community (EC) and Kenya was forged in 1968 at Arusha when the East African Community signed the Arusha convention establishing trade relations between three partner states (Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda) and the EC. Kenya then became a member of the African Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) group of developing countries which signed the Lomé I Convention in 1975. A year later the European Commission established a permanent Delegation in Nairobi to promote the implementation of Kenya-EC cooperation.

This cooperation of over forty years of a committed and long-term strategic allegiance, providing a comprehensive range of trade, development, security and humanitarian support to build peace and prosperity in the country. Above all, Europeans – businesspeople, diplomats, tourists, artists, NGO workers and many more - are invested in a relationship with the people of Kenya, a close cultural and social relationship that will last for many decades to come.

Together with its 28 member states, Europe is Kenya's largest trading partner and market for its exports worldwide. The European Union supports Kenya’s leadership in the region, as an economic gateway and trade leader, and supporter of good governance. European companies lead the way in investing in Kenya, generating thousands of jobs and tax revenue. The European Investment Bank provides long-term development loans, at generous rates, to support the building of energy and transport infrastructure.

Kenya’s security is dependent on regional stability and is important to the security of Europe.

The European Union is the largest supporter of the peace process in Somalia, including in financial support to the African Union Mission to Somalia. We also strongly support regional institutions of security and stability.

The European Union believes that development support in line with Kenya's national priorities is key to increasing prosperity but also recognises a growing role for the private sector, trade and investment. The EU and its member states make the largest contribution of development assistance to Kenya. European Union development assistance is supporting new born babies and farmers; devolution and access to justice; roads and energy infrastructure; access to affordable food and clean water; the urban poor and those living in Kenya’s remote regions.

From 2014 to 2020, the European Union will spend Euros 435 million, working closely with the Government of Kenya, to continue to improve key Infrastructure, agricultural development and food security, and to support governance that builds social unity.

Development assistance is only one pillar of the comprehensive partnership with Kenya.

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Extract:

Nigeria and the EU


Nigeria has never been an aid-dependent country. Its own financial resources from oil and gas exports far outweigh those that can be provided by donors. However, the EU considers that external aid could play a role in enabling the authorities to make better use of their own resources, particularly by supporting the government's own initiatives to improve governance. The country has undertaken important reforms in public financial management, in particular to fight corruption.

Inspite of the oil sector’s dominance, it is the non-oil sector that is fuelling growth. Sustainable expansion of agriculture is expected to play a big part in unleashing future economic growth. On the political front, the country is considered as an emerging democracy. However, it faces an Islamist insurgency – Boko Haram – in the North and renewed instability in the Niger Delta.

The West African country is on track to achieve the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) on universal primary education, greater gender equality and women’s empowerment. Other MDGs are further from reach: poverty reduction, child mortality and maternal health.

The National Indicative Programme for Nigeria outlines the main focal sectors of the EU cooperation with the country during the period 2014-20 under the 11th European Development Fund.

Over the past decade, EU-Nigeria cooperation has steadily expanded. It is grounded in the ‘EU-Nigeria Joint Way Forward’ agreed between the EU and Nigeria in 2009. This outlines the priorities for bilateral EU-Nigeria cooperation. The 10th EDF Country Strategy Paper sets out the priorities for EU funding to the country, 2008-13.

The 10th EDF programme for Nigeria, jointly drawn up with the Federal Republic of Nigeria, allocates €677 million for the period 2008-13. The three priority areas for programme and project funding are:

Litmus:
Extract:

Kenya and the EU

The European Union is a longstanding partner of Kenya. The first formal link between the then European Community (EC) and Kenya was forged in 1968 at Arusha when the East African Community signed the Arusha convention establishing trade relations between three partner states (Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda) and the EC. Kenya then became a member of the African Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) group of developing countries which signed the Lomé I Convention in 1975. A year later the European Commission established a permanent Delegation in Nairobi to promote the implementation of Kenya-EC cooperation.

This cooperation of over forty years of a committed and long-term strategic allegiance, providing a comprehensive range of trade, development, security and humanitarian support to build peace and prosperity in the country. Above all, Europeans – businesspeople, diplomats, tourists, artists, NGO workers and many more - are invested in a relationship with the people of Kenya, a close cultural and social relationship that will last for many decades to come.

Together with its 28 member states, Europe is Kenya's largest trading partner and market for its exports worldwide. The European Union supports Kenya’s leadership in the region, as an economic gateway and trade leader, and supporter of good governance. European companies lead the way in investing in Kenya, generating thousands of jobs and tax revenue. The European Investment Bank provides long-term development loans, at generous rates, to support the building of energy and transport infrastructure.

Kenya’s security is dependent on regional stability and is important to the security of Europe.

The European Union is the largest supporter of the peace process in Somalia, including in financial support to the African Union Mission to Somalia. We also strongly support regional institutions of security and stability.

The European Union believes that development support in line with Kenya's national priorities is key to increasing prosperity but also recognises a growing role for the private sector, trade and investment. The EU and its member states make the largest contribution of development assistance to Kenya. European Union development assistance is supporting new born babies and farmers; devolution and access to justice; roads and energy infrastructure; access to affordable food and clean water; the urban poor and those living in Kenya’s remote regions.

From 2014 to 2020, the European Union will spend Euros 435 million, working closely with the Government of Kenya, to continue to improve key Infrastructure, agricultural development and food security, and to support governance that builds social unity.

Development assistance is only one pillar of the comprehensive partnership with Kenya.

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Litmus:




Awe comeon, Kenya is owned by whites, Indians and Arab! Those people leave, your coffee, tea and wildlife industry collapses and Kenya ends up relying on the earnings of long distance runners and maybe flower sales and national dish will become, Masai cow-blood kebabs. All this is fact, one which no amount of swearing online will change.

Litmus:




Awe comeon, Kenya is owned by whites, Indians and Arab! Those people leave, your coffee, tea and wildlife industry collapses and Kenya ends up relying on the earnings of long distance runners and maybe flower sales and national dish will become, Masai cow-blood kebabs. All this is fact, one which no amount of swearing online will change.

Kenyanstar:
KENYAS HEALTH SECTOR COMPARED TO NIGERIA

Courtesy Wikipedia
Kenya’s health care system is structured in a step-wise manner so that complicated cases are referred to a higher level. Gaps in the system are filled by private and church run units.

1. The governments pays for all maternal delivery in all public hospitals
2. Children below 5yrs are given free treatment in all public hospitals
3. All district hospitals in the country provide free treatment & offer subsidized medicines
4. Kenya has the highest number of referral hospitals(97) in Africa, 2 biggest national referral hospitals in East & Sub-Saharan Africa
5. Kenya has 47 cancer centers based in all county's through the National government-County government health partnership
6. Free Tuberculosis treatment in all public hospitals
7. Free vaccination for all citizens in all public hospitals

MtuMsuper:

Everything you have written is CRAP! Why bother to even respond. One day you shall wake up and discover there is an Africa beyond your LGA, and you shall be a very depressed man indeed.
Btw kenyans have "eaten book" properly, expertise exists in every field of human endeavour, it's not uncommon to find unemployed masters and phd holders. So STFU

Litmus:


Truth is, there are Nigerian experts capable of all the infrastructural developments going on at Eko Atlantic except maybe for the dredging and ocean protection walls. And i am even on record for advocating that Nigeria hand over any meaningful developments projects intended for Niger Delta to foreigners -some of whom have the most imaginative ideas for future urban development. It is not that Nigerians are not capable but because Nigerians right now politically and ethnically don't trust themselves and because, frankly there are better abroad. I am not one for self deceit or lies. We live now in a world where expertise can be viewed in modular terms. The British employed the former Canadian economist and finance minister for Governor of the bank of England. Nigeria could conceivably do the same because of the neutrality this would provide but not because we don't have financial experts.

Kenya on the other hand simply does not possess the in dept native expertise that Nigeria has, please let us not deceive ourselves. Nigerians exits that are capable of building echo Atlantic except for the wall and dredging. It's just that Nigerians would not trust them to (). And we have the wealthy Native people to fund equivalent projects if they so wish. Lebanese are welcomed but not necessary. Nigeria has the Native (meaning black people)doctors capable of any surgery any native Kenyan is capable of and also those their Indians and Arabs are capable of too. I so happen to like Kenyans, Ugandans and Ethiopians but the truth is Kenya relies heavily on Indians and Arabs. The difference is that Nigeria can do without Lebanese and Indians, we have the black expertise in almost every field.

I haven't bothered to look, but if i do, i bet there would be Indians and Arabs lurking behind those Software developments in Kenya of which they are so incessantly verbal. Nigerians on the other hand, in the next decade, will be equal to the best the world has to offer.

STFUareyouGod:
Really? Tell me more please cuz I hardly read any good news from Kenya #nooffence