KingEbukasBlog:

Ifenes , this guy says atheists do not believe in reincarnation . Atheism is simply the belief there is no god . You can hold whatever beliefs you want . Confucianism is a religion without deists and they venerate ancestral spirits . Confucians can be Atheists

Believing in re-incarnation is not a requirement for atheists but it is for Buddhists. You do not have to accept re-incarnation to be an atheist - you just have to recognize/embrace the lack of empirical evidence for God. Just like Black Madonna is not a prerequisite for Christianity but some Christians believe in her.

KingEbukasBlog:

"There is no God" is a declaration showing omniscience . Have you embarked on a peregrination to all possible dimensions , outside the universe to ascertain there is no God ? The answer is no . So its a belief .

It is no different from saying "There is no ape-civilization orbiting the planet Jupiter" as we speak. Have I been to the planet Jupiter? No. But, its a very reasonable claim to make. This is the crux of atheism. No one can prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you theists. All you have to do is locate God in any one of the infinite dimensions and you win the debate forever. Quite a simple task if you ask me - but your inability to do this convinces me even more of the absence of God.

KingEbukasBlog:

Atheism is not a natural state . If it were everyone would quickly dump religion instead atheism has the lowest retention rate in the world . The deists acknowledge the existence of God through Reason , Nature and Science .
There is God without Religion , and There is Religion without God .

Yes. Atheism is the natural state of humans - since a child (who is not already 'converted') has no reason to 'see' invisible beings. Popularity does not imply accuracy. The proponents of the round earth theory also had the lowest retention rate at one time. The deists are wrong. The scientific method (the hallmark of reason) does not lead to a conclusion of God's existence.

ifenes:


God an entity,Humans are entities who function independently,according to you. So what makes God special if it shares the same attributes with Humans? A Being has no beginning or an end. It's function is to be,in a continuous state. What brought about a different entity?

God's divine presence encompasses everything that exists . https://www.nairaland.com/2973792/atheism-dead-logic-god-everything

So there's a separate conscious entity with his its essence permeating through the universe . I don't know how to describe it , I hope you understand .

@ ifenes

Something like this

The blue whatever shows how everything is of It including the universe and It is the One who is eternal

AkinPhysicist:

Believing in re-incarnation is not a requirement for atheists but it is for Buddhists. You do not have to accept re-incarnation to be an atheist - you just have to recognize/embrace the lack of empirical evidence for God. Just like Black Madonna is not a prerequisite for Christianity but some Christians believe in her.

You are not getting the gist . Atheism simply means the belief there is no God . That means you can believe in spirits , reincarnation , superstition etc as an atheist .

It is no different from saying "There is no ape-civilization orbiting the planet Jupiter" as we speak. Have I been to the planet Jupiter? No. But, its a very reasonable claim to make. This is the crux of atheism. No one can prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you theists. All you have to do is locate God in any one of the infinite dimensions and you win the debate forever. Quite a simple task if you ask me - but your inability to do this convinces me even more of the absence of God.

Appeal to ignorance fallacy

Stating that a proposition is true because of lack of contrary evidence

Nature serves as evidence for God , rejecting this evidence does not invalidate it .

Yes. Atheism is the natural state of humans - since a child (who is not already 'converted') has no reason to 'see' invisible beings. Popularity does not imply accuracy. The proponents of the round earth theory also had the lowest retention rate at one time. The deists are wrong. The scientific method (the hallmark of reason) does not lead to a conclusion of God's existence.

A child does not have the ability to hold opinions or beliefs . And since atheism is a belief , a child cannot be an atheist . Atheism requires conscious explicit rejection of the existence of god .

KingEbukasBlog:


God's divine presence encompasses everything that exists . https://www.nairaland.com/2973792/atheism-dead-logic-god-everything

So there's a separate conscious entity with his its essence permeating through the universe . I don't know how to describe it , I hope you understand .

The man in the mirror is not different from the man looking into the mirror. God cannot be different to the reflections. If Human's are it's reflection,humans are God looking at itself in a hall of mirror,having infinite reflections.

As for reincarnation,which is an illusion of Time. Time doesn't exist,which means everything is happening simultaneously,according to Einstein. But reincarnation is just like Motion and Time, they are not real but makes you experience different Nows in different time. This is advance metaphysics.

Everyone is I and you know you are You. If you die now,other people are born and they are all You. Cycle of life which never ends.

KingEbukasBlog:

You are not getting the gist . Atheism simply means the belief there is no God . That means you can believe in spirits , reincarnation , superstition etc as an atheist .

And you are not comprehending my post. Read again - I said as much.

KingEbukasBlog:

Appeal to ignorance fallacy
Stating that a proposition is true because of lack of contrary evidence
Nature serves as evidence for God , rejecting this evidence does not invalidate it .

Quite simple. The lack of empirical evidence for God's existence is compelling enough. Wrong. Nature serves as evidence of evolution.

KingEbukasBlog:

A child does not have the ability to hold opinions or beliefs . And since atheism is a belief , a child cannot be an atheist . Atheism requires conscious explicit rejection of the existence of god .

No child is born believing in God. Hence non-belief is the natural state of humans. Its quite simple. No need to complicate the issue.

KingEbukasBlog:
@ ifenes

Something like this

The blue whatever shows how everything is of It including the universe and It is the One who is eternal

The ball in the hand of the girl is a reflection of her mind. This brings us back to the Prime Radiant. The One is the All and the All are the One. The world is a reflection of the God mind. If the world is evil,God mind is Evil.

If we go by what you said about God being a different entity who created a bad world,you have just described a bad God/Human. But that is far from it. God is within you,your Mind. Creation is continuous and spontaneous. The Mind is forever functioning through imaginations, painting,song writing, building will continue to exist.

I doubt you will be able to link the christian god with anything good.

The Human God/Human Being can only be his own God.

AkinPhysicist:
Christianity was imported into Africa by Europeans, while Islam was imported by Arabs. Atheism is the natural state of man - everyone was born an atheist. As a child progress through life, ignorant adults start telling them tales by moonlight aka 'God', 'demons' 'Satan' etc. Its that simple and straight forward - no need to complicate the issue.

How natural is Atheism?

ifenes:


The man in the mirror is not different from the man looking into the mirror. God cannot be different to the reflections. If Human's are it's reflection,humans are God looking at itself in a hall of mirror,having infinite reflections.

As for reincarnation,which is an illusion of Time. Time doesn't exist,which means everything is happening simultaneously,according to Einstein. But reincarnation is just like Motion and Time, they are not real but makes you experience different Nows in different time. This is advance metaphysics.

Everyone is I and you know you are You. If you die now,other people are born and they are all You. Cycle of life which never ends.

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You are very wrong here, the man in the mirror is just a mere shadow of the man standing before the mirror.
The real man standing before the mirror can and will influence the man in the mirror whatever he does is what the man in the mirror will do. Do you get that?
Next time use some reasonable analogy

KingEbukasBlog:


Atheism has never been a natural state in humans - this explains its extreme low retention rate . God created man with the propensity to seek knowledge of Him .

go check the piraha people...and come and tell me if they revere any creator God.

KingEbukasBlog:


"There is no God" is a declaration showing omniscience . Have you embarked on a peregrination to all possible dimensions , outside the universe to ascertain there is no God ? The answer is no . So its a belief

you know this is gnostic atheism naa...not necessarily atheism

UyiIredi:
SMH. You need to learn to write coherently. Then you can be taken seriously.

If this was about some other topic I'm not sure this will be your response.

When some says something important maybe you guys should learn to respond to issues without attacking persons. Topic is Hypocrisy in African Atheism, not English Grammar.

ifenes:


But you are still a christian who believes that the white man's god died for you. Are you not a hypocrite as well? You are quoting from Genesis,the same book that encouraged the enslavement of your ancestors. Kettle calling the pot black!

the major problem you guys have is the love for arguments even where there is no need for it..

lepasharon:
Ever heard of paragraphs OP?

...no!..or you want to tell me the post do not exist because ,I do not paragraph it?..e no dey hard Una to create argument wey no get head..

MrMontella:

you know this is gnostic atheism naa...not necessarily atheism

One is either atheist, agnostic or theist. Gnostic atheism makes no sense going by definition.
And all are believes but only theists who claim God reveals Himself to people are the ones that makes sense because there is no other way you can make absolute statements like
- there is no God (atheists) or
- no one can know whether or not God exists
if you are not omniscient yourself (and no one has been proven to be)

ever811:
the major problem you guys have is the love for arguments even where there is no need for it..

That's the only way an atheist can console himself and try to prove his believe has some basis although he knows it is unfounded.

MrMontella:

go check the piraha people...and come and tell me if they revere any creator God.

Go check all the other peoples and the history of the piraha. Atheism is as alien to humanity as living under water (pardon the imperfection of that analogy).

By the way ignorance is different from anti-theist believe. There are many things civilived peoole also use and talk about regardless of stand on religion that the Piraha people just have no clue of, will you say they don't believe in those things too- existence of atom, electronics, PlayStation, cloud technology etc

PDBonline:

One is either atheist, agnostic or theist. Gnostic atheism makes no sense going by definition.
And all are believes but only theists who claim God reveals Himself to people are the ones that makes sense because there is no other way you can make absolute statements like
- there is no God (atheists) or
- no one can know whether or not God exists
if you are not omniscient yourself (and no one has been proven to be)

the definition of atheism is simply----lack of belief..
A lack of belief ''comprises certainty and uncertainty..''.

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agnostic and gnostic atheism make sense so long as a religion can exist and have a theistic and an atheistic variant...
Hinduism has a theistic version and at the same time has an atheistic version..yet it is still hinduism..

ifenes:


The man in the mirror is not different from the man looking into the mirror. God cannot be different to the reflections. If Human's are it's reflection,humans are God looking at itself in a hall of mirror,having infinite reflections.

As for reincarnation,which is an illusion of Time. Time doesn't exist,which means everything is happening simultaneously,according to Einstein. But reincarnation is just like Motion and Time, they are not real but makes you experience different Nows in different time. This is advance metaphysics.

Everyone is I and you know you are You. If you die now,other people are born and they are all You. Cycle of life which never ends.

cahii....drink a cup of water rest for 5 minutes then read this you comments again.

PDBonline:

Go check all the other peoples and the history of the piraha. Atheism is as alien to humanity as living under water (pardon the imperfection of that analogy).

no it is not..
So long as the piraha people can exist naturally..without having a creator god..then it means atheism is natural...

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even without that..there have always been unbelievers...no matter how few..

What kind of hatred for athiests is this
ever811 is it your hatred that is affecting your spelling

For the umpteenth time most athiests are agnostic
Atheistic towards religous Gods and agnostic towards the supreme being
How many times do I have to tell you this so that it will sink into your head
It's like your brain has the gravitational pull of an asteroid
The Abrahamic God doesn't exist
Deal with it

MrMontella:

the definition of atheism is simply----lack of belief..
A lack of belief ''comprises certainty and uncertainty..''.

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agnostic and gnostic atheism make sense so long as a religion can exist and have a theistic and an atheistic variant...
Hinduism has a theistic version and at the same time has an atheistic version..yet it is still hinduism..

1. Don't mix religion and believe together. They are not the same. Religion is external things done that is compartible what internal believe. So someone who believes in God but lives like he doesn't is an irreligious believer. An atheist whose way of life and activities match with those of theists (e.g. participating in rituals associated with some faith) is an IRRELIGIOUS atheist.

The English word religion is from the Latin word "religio" which means obligation. That's what you do because of what you believe and what you are, not what you believe.

2. A lack of belief in one thing is a belief in another.

ever811:
...no!..or you want to tell me the post do not exist because ,I do not paragraph it?..e no dey hard Una to create argument wey no get head..

The post gave me a headache

jonbellion:
What kind of hatred for athiests is this
ever811 is it your hatred that is affecting your spelling

I might not be as literate as you are but manage to go against your insinuations that theist has no sense of reasoning, to make common sense.
there are wrong spellings with comprehensible content in the post .so why not keep spellings out of the picture and just spew your ignorance just the way your likes are doing..

ever811:
I might not be as literate as you are but manage to go against your insinuations that theist has no sense of reasoning, to make common sense.
there are wrong spellings with comprehensible content in the post .so why not keep spellings out of the picture and just spew your ignorance just the way your likes are doing..

and when did I say thiests have no sense of reasoning
Your hatred is driving you nuts bro

ever811:
..I know there is no way you and your fellow Satan prisoners will want to be here..we are not here for academic relevance...the message is clear ,if you know its one of those no go areas for you,why not zoom off already ...

So u have concluded that they are Satan prisoner huh?.

Na dis one God send u to come do or to show more love to people like dis.

MrMontella:

no it is not..
So long as the piraha people can exist naturally..without having a creator god..then it means atheism is natural...

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even without that..there have always been unbelievers...no matter how few..

cancer too is natural, does that make it normal? These are two different things.

PDBonline:

Go check all the other peoples and the history of the piraha. Atheism is as alien to humanity as living under water (pardon the imperfection of that analogy).

By the way ignorance is different from anti-theist believe. There are many things civilived peoole also use and talk about regardless of stand on religion that the Piraha people just have no clue of, will you say they don't believe in those things too- existence of atom, electronics, PlayStation, cloud technology etc

Good!@bolded...
Now you know,your religion was founded on ignorance...and still thrives on the ignorance of its adherents

PDBonline:

cancer too is natural, does that make it normal? These are two different things.

non sequitor argument!

PDBonline:

1. Don't mix religion and believe together. They are not the same. Religion is external things done that is compartible what internal believe. So someone who believes in God but lives like he doesn't is an irreligious believer. An atheist whose way of life and activities match with those of theists (e.g. participating in rituals associated with some faith) is an IRRELIGIOUS atheist.

The English word religion is from the Latin word "religio" which means obligation. That's what you do because of what you believe and what you are, not what you believe.

you simply forgot religion is a set of beliefs...usually connected with the nature,or origin or whatever [size=18pt]of the universe[/size]..
So my statement still stands...

2. A lack of belief in one thing is a belief in another.

non sequitor...
A lack of belief..is a lack of belief...and a disbelief is not a belief...i.e nothing is not a thing.

rhektor:
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You are very wrong here, the man in the mirror is just a mere shadow of the man standing before the mirror.
The real man standing before the mirror can and will influence the man in the mirror whatever he does is what the man in the mirror will do. Do you get that?
Next time use some reasonable analogy

You mean you see your shadow in the mirror when you look at it? Don't quote me if cannot read what I said properly before misquoting me.

The man in the mirror is the reflection of the man looking into the mirror. That is exactly what I said. Move away!