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Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by galatico(m): 3:30pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has received a two-match touchline ban for his comments about referee Alan Wiley's fitness. The Football Association handed Ferguson a four-game ban, with two of those suspended until the end of the 2010-11 season. Ferguson has also been fined £20,000 and warned about his future conduct. Ferguson made disparaging remarks about Wiley's fitness after his side's 2-2 draw with Sunderland on 3 October. Serves that old man right!!! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8314326.stm |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by FBS: 3:36pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
Dang! |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by mrperfect(m): 3:42pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
well, discipline is always necessary in an organization |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by tkb417(m): 3:49pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
so when the REF gets it wrong, they shld start banning and fining them too |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by BinghiNya(m): 3:54pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
No be new thing with fergie and ban. Its almost an annual affair. That shows he is not in control the FA. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by mukina2: 3:55pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by HNIC(m): 4:00pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
He should be flogged like they are about to flog Worgu. . . . Silly Old man! |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by tkb417(m): 4:02pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
better than the Viewer himself |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 4:08pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
this FA is full of inconsistencies. So it's nt surprising fergie got hit. I don't see refs who err in awarding penalties for dives and non-existent red cards getting any fine or ban. I don't see Arsenal fans who thrash the Eastlands by throwing missiles onto the pitch getting banned or the club warned about the conduct of their fans. Instead rooney gets warned for saying Chelsea had a 12 th man when it was obvious the ref goofed. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by chrisical(m): 4:35pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
It serves the old man right |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by edoyad(m): 7:39pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
The old shameless man . What crime hasn't he committed yet ? He should be sharing a Cell with Marlon King. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by rasputinn(m): 11:14pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
Hope that shuts him up a bit,but if it doesn't,then the FA should consider using super glue |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by HNIC(m): 9:00am On Nov 13, 2009 |
Graham Poll: The Official Line - Sir Alex Ferguson's verdict is a total sham By Graham Poll The FA have wilted so often in the face of celebrity, no one can be surprised that their hands were tied in this case. This is not a cheap shot at Ferguson, but a heartfelt plea to the FA to sort out their wholly inadequate system for dealing with managers from someone who was routinely abused and regularly had his integrity questioned. Look at the way Rafa Benitez tried to ridicule Phil Dowd by offering him his glasses as Liverpool lost at Spurs in their season opener. Two months later the FA warned Benitez as to his future conduct, since on the same day they had let Neil Warnock off after he had done exactly the same at a Crystal Palace match. All too often referees tell fourth officials to ‘cock a deaf ’un’ to the criticisms of the manager within the technical area. Why? Because match officials know that the governing body can take months to deal with such incidents and in the meantime they cannot officiate that team. So how does Alan Wiley feel this morning after reading that the man who questioned his professionalism will serve a two-match touchline ban, but will still be able to sit just behind the technical area and communicate with his coaching team throughout the 90 minutes? He is not the first referee to have been let down by the FA and until they change their disciplinary procedures he certainly will not be the last
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Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 2:06pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
Have referees closed ranks against Manchester United?
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Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 4:20pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
HNIC, Surely,you're nt listening to a ref whose claim to fame is booking the same player thrice in a game before remembering to send him off,are you? |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by HNIC(m): 4:31pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
Eastbay:Nope I am not listening to him. I just posted what was his opinion. I don't necessarily agree with all he said. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 5:35pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
HNIC, I thought as much,though I'm still suspicious as to why you'd post his comments. The man's credibility went in Germany so anything he says from here on should be taken with a pinch of salt. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by slimshay(m): 6:12pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
sauron stop right there with any stupid conspiracy theory. Evrbody even blind mofos know ManU are on the advantageous end of the highest number of dubious referees calls. if we begin to list we will break nairaland page record abeg. Alex Ferguson has been known to berate referees most times in full galre of the public, denegrating them. He usually gets away with simple relative slaps on the wrist. And its cos England respect their knights. The FA needs to come hard on anyone no matter who he is if their respect campaign is going anywhere. Rooney is well known for talking shit to refeeres and gets away cos he's englands golden boy. Let them stop their hypocriscy and make a real scape goat of someone unexpected then others will learn. This 2 match ban is a joke.
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Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 7:27pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
slimshay: Arsenal is number one on the list. I can show you the amount of penalties FOR and AGAINST all the teams in the BIG FOUR for the past 5 years.
Shouldn't they be berated? How can you reconcile with what happened to Man Utd @ Anfield and Stamford Bridge? Carragher got sent off a week after @ Craven Cottage when a competent referee was officiating the game but he got away with it @ Anfield because a spineless referee was officiating. Managers get sacked, Players get shipped out because of the meaningless decisions referees are making. Respect begets respect.
I don't give a damn about the FA handing SAF a 2-match ban. He rarely prances about in the technical area these days like Wenger n Benitez so i can't be bovvered. The issue here is. . . .the FA should buckle up and use competent referees if they want players to respect them. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 8:39am On Nov 14, 2009 |
slimshay:Please say smething constructive.It's not because you want to bash anything United that you reduce yourself to a rambling jackass. Alex Ferguson is not alone in berating referees in public. Arsene wenger does,benitez does.A whole lot of prem managers do that week in,week out. As for their knights, please the title is largely ceremonial.If Fergie was respected as a knight,believe me United would be winning every game as a result of his influence. like Sauron said,respect begets respect.If referees get the decisions right on the pitch,then coaches will have no option but to respect them.If they keep making ridiculous decisions like they've been making for the past couple of weeks,no ref is gonna get any respect. Again,my point remains:if managers can be punished for criticizing refs,then it is a stupid system that lets the refs go scot-free when it's obvious to all that they (refs) hve goofed.The refs should face sanctions other than being demoted to ref lower league gae for just a week,only for them to resume their incompetencies the following week.Some of these refs are not even honest enough to adit they made mistakes. Refs cost teams points in terms of bad calss they make.This whole furore is likely to be solved by implementing some form of video evidence for contentious decisions.Whether FIFA likes it or not. As for your donkey-kong allegation about United being at the end of dubious calls,if you have not been seing the favour that refs have been doing chelsea all season long,then you're not likely to see anything else in future. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 9:11am On Nov 14, 2009 |
Rafa Benitez claimed the referee in charge of their opening day loss was visually impaired. He got away without any charge being laid on him. Tell me how a claim of a ref being fat/unfit is worse than saying the ref is blind/can't see well. Tell me if the FA isn't full of sh&t,that's why they re about to bungle their 2018 world cup bid. And some twats here want to make believe that Fergie deserves to be canned. Going by other outbursts,every EPL anager should be fined and banned as well. endof. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 12:12pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
They berate and banish Sir Alex Ferguson for a stupid comment about a slightly chubby referee and cravenly ignore all the good the Manchester United manager has done, all the glory he has brought to English football, all the talent he has helped mould for the cause of St George. So who do you want influencing football? Pen-pushers or Treble-winners? Ferguson's verdict on Alan Wiley's fitness was undoubtedly insulting and iniquitous. Referees, even those like Wiley slightly lacking sleekness, deserve respect. The alternative is mayhem in the opinion-forming playgrounds of the Premier League and subsequent anarchy in the UK schoolyards. Those brought up to bow at the altar of "the referee is always right even when he is blatantly wrong'' cannot tolerate Ferguson's stance. The belittling of officials is a widespread modern curse that needs combating. Even Fabio Capello ambushed the referee in the tunnel in Dnepropetrovsk, raging about decisions against England, using language that would make Ferguson blush. Did the FA call Capello to account? No chance. "As the senior statesman Fergie should be setting an example,'' reflected an England supporter. "A lot of young managers look up to him, but any other manager probably would not have been punished so harshly. The FA have got to be more consistent really. Players abuse the officials weekly.'' And escape. The case against Ferguson lacks perspective. It is like hounding Barack Obama for double-parking outside the White House. The FA must see the bigger picture with Ferguson. This is an individual whose managerial feats have been worth tens of millions of pounds to his rivals, raising the Premier League's coefficient to permit a fourth side into the Champions League. At the risk of straying further into Monty Python territory, what has Ferguson ever done for English football? Well, this is a leader of men who has built on David Moyes's fine work at Everton to nurture Wayne Rooney into England's one saving grace. This is the club boss who could supply more than half of England's starting XI in Ben Foster, Wes Brown, Rio Ferdinand, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves and Rooney, let alone cultivating Ra'vel Morrison as a potential gem for 2014. Better than Kieran Gibbs and Jack Wilshere, certainly up there with Jack Rodwell, if Morrison does emerge as the pre-eminent English footballer of his generation, it will be because of a certain Scot's shrewd guidance. I can't remember the last time the FA acknowledged Ferguson's role in shaping England's present or future. Crassly imitating a scene from Swift, Lilliputian no-names attempt to bring down a giant of the game. The cast of pygmies includes Alan Leighton, a rep from referees' union Prospect, an unknown organisation in football until its pushy principal began piggybacking on Ferguson's fame. Apparently, Prospect represents referees. So Leighton will know that Ferguson was the first manager to inquire after Mark Halsey's health. It is the inconsistency of individuals such as Leighton that is particularly galling. Ferguson makes a mistake and gets pilloried. Leighton's members make shocking errors, ignoring beach-balls and bad challenges, yet the Prospect chief stays silent. The FA seems to have been swayed by a union man stamping his feet and spouting off on the airwaves. Football would be better place if a wise owl such as Ferguson, for all his acerbic outbursts, was advising the FA and its hordes of amateurs on how to run the game. In a land where many FA types just worry about guaranteeing their free tickets to Wembley every year, Ferguson plots how to take his team there again and again. Ferguson contributes so much to the game that the FA fails to note. England's most important player, Rooney, rallied to his manager's defence yesterday, detailing why Ferguson should be cherished. "First of all the trophies he's won,'' began Rooney, "and the type of football he wants you to play – attacking football all the time. Sometimes you feel you can't do it but he keeps you going. At his age [67], he still wants to win all the time. That's incredible to see.'' Ferguson should show more respect to referees – and football should show more respect to Ferguson. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by adebayo201: 1:34pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
rasputinn: that is just the beginning for him. Just imagine EPL without SAF, RAFA, ARSENE, what wuld have happen a riru eleyi ri, afin deru boloro ni. Dat dont stop Man u freom winning the games the wuld put SAF away from the tough line |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by 4Play(m): 1:45pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
slimshay: You are a blinkered idiot. Can you give us some empirical evidence that support your stupid claim? This knee-jerk claim that Utd get the most calls has no basis in reality. The evidence is overwhelming and conclusive that Utd does not enjoy favourable ref treatment out of the ordinary. Alex Ferguson has been known to berate referees most times in full galre of the public, denegrating them. He usually gets away with simple relative slaps on the wrist. And its cos England respect their knights. Fergie berating refs, as opposed to those icons of sportsmanship like Rafa and Wenger who never utter an unkind word about refs? You are one blinkered ostrich. For how many games was Wenger banned when he called a ref a liar? What about Rafa after his premeditated diatribe on refs last season? |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by 4Play(m): 1:50pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
I took this post from the Guardian blog. It's a rare attempt to do some research into the question of favoritism instead of the usual mouthing of fatuous inanities on this issue: I've read a lot of opinionated nonsense on this thread, ranging from those who think that almost all decisions have gone in Manchester United's favour in recent years, to those who think that an opposition player has to "take a machete" to a United player for United to get a penalty. So I thought I'd do some research. I used statistics from all Premiership seasons since 2003 to the present day, using clubs who have been ever present in the Premiership during that period. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Nobody: 4:20pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
4Play. Good job. Let some doughnut brains come here and spew their biased perception.Intellectually lazy people just say United get favourable calls from referees without evidence to back the claim up. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 4:32pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
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Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by edoyad(m): 4:47pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
FACT : Since Alex Ferguson started coaching in England - Inspite of the so called stars He's introduced to the England squad, they have not reached the Final of any major tournament and are not even a respected footballing side anymore. So of what use are the so called stars he has brought into the English game ? |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 4:55pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
edoyad: Blame the manager of the National team. Fergie has nurtured talents like Gary Neville, David Beckham, Wes Brown, Paul Scholes, Michael Carrick, Owen Hargreaves, Wayne Rooney, etc. All these players have won the biggest prize in club football. By natural order, they should be winning the world cup. Without Ferguson, Arsenal and Liverpool woulda run into administration. |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by edoyad(m): 5:03pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
You cannot honestly tell me that you believe SAF is primarily responsible for the Success of EPL ? There're are many more factors that go into the league's success and i'd personally even commend Kenyon above SAF any day if we Zero it down to Man yoo's success alone |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by Sauron1: 5:21pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
edoyad: Fergie had won enough titles for Man Utd before Kenyon came on board. Cantona had already retired before Kenyon began to flex his muscles at OT so go and read some history books. Without SAF winning those titles and beating teams in Europe after the ban of English clubs in Europe, the EPL woulda stagnated. With Fergie came success in Europe thus forcing UEFA's hands to allow England play 4 different teams in the Champions League. What woulda been the fate of Arsenal/Liverpool if this country is only allowed to play 2 clubs in UEFA? |
Re: Ferguson Hit With Fa Fine And Ban by BinghiNya(m): 5:59pm On Nov 14, 2009 |
4play nice one. I had highlighted such in the past but people didn't pay any attention. |
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