Toks2008:


This is not about controversy.

I stated that this is up for discussion and if only Seun,lalasticlaka or mynd44 will put this on the main page then we will see broader views.

Some people kept ranting about poverty mentality and I just smh in disbelieve.

You cited oyedepo and co as having their own biz but can you just look down their history and you won't agree less that the rode on the back of church donations to attain their present status.

It's no longer news that a quarter of winners chapel members can't afford the fee of covenant university?

How many church members have their children in that school?

I remember when I was serving some years back when I approached my pastor at one redeem branch to lend me 6k to pay back in a month which was very vital to avoid being sent out of my rented apartment but he said no money and I was sent out anyways and I just wonder if my tithing and offering was worth giving to the church but I just gave to obey God.

Today there are many people in the church who need money to start a biz, for treatment and so on but do these pastors really care?

Do you know how much it costs to maintain a jet?

This thread is about Nigerian pastors cos Nigeria is a peculiar country that has countless people suffering even in the church.

orisa37:
God's Names include Riches and Wealth; Honour and Glory; Majesty(Excellence) and Worship; Security, Safety and Success. Satan is poor and wretched. All Sons and Daughters of God are Rich, Wealthy and Powerful. By the way, do you want them to travel around to evangelize in Molues and Boole ka jas?

Lizzyfroshey:
Yes/no I'm confused self

bezimo:


The works I do shall you do and greater than these shall ye do.Jesus speaking on they that believeth on him.
What does greater mean? It includes more than private jet.
If Jesus lived in our days, he would use the best, and most comfortable means of transportation. No doubt about that whether the hypocrites agree or not.

chuose2:


We all know that Buhari deceived us and we are all suffering now.

Adeboye on the other hand IS actively deceiving the poor NOW!

But the Lord will judge Adeboye and his lust for material things.

Did Jesus not say FEED MY SHEEP, Jesus never said FEED OFF MY SHEEP!

John 21:16
He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Adeboye is flying a jet at the expense of the poor, with his never ending promise of prosperity for them.

God is already revealing that Adeboye is a fraud to people, slowly but surely!

chuose2:


We all know that Buhari deceived us and we are all suffering now.

Adeboye on the other hand IS actively deceiving the poor NOW!

But the Lord will judge Adeboye and his lust for material things.

Did Jesus not say FEED MY SHEEP, Jesus never said FEED OFF MY SHEEP!

John 21:16
He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

Adeboye is flying a jet at the expense of the poor, with his never ending promise of prosperity for them.

God is already revealing that Adeboye is a fraud to people, slowly but surely!

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

teezy001:
Everyone of you condemning the usage of private jets in church ministries lack understanding. I also frowned at any clergy that use it for business, but I know some clergy men all due to the expansion of their ministries worldwide, it is this jets that take them all around the world including missionaries. I think the op is an atheist, the ministries with few branches in a nations doesn't need a jet, but when a ministry is embarking on foreign missions, personal jet is needed. If you have ever witnessed how our airliners use to frustrate the missioners, you will pity them. My last point is that a ministry must assist their members without the knowledge of mass media, and should never collect offering for the jets. Don't ever compare AD ministry to BC ministry. Most of the judges here belongs to ministries that have only ten branches nationwide, so they cannot never see a need for aircraft.

dbeloved12:


Jesus was able to command money out of a fish, so ow come HE lived a humble life if as u said 'he would use the best if Jesus lived in our days'

My dear u don't need to twist facts in order to make ur points.. Right from the time He was born to d end He live a selfless life. He live solely for humanity, He worked tirelessly to set us free from bondage.

Like I said, He had unreserved access to good things of life but He chose to be identify with the masses.

The only time He experience what look like comfort was when He decided to ride a DONKEY n that was when He was preparing to pay d supreme price for our salvation....


So ur ascertion is very wrong...

shedybaba44:
people are getting bless day by day through the men of God you are criticizing and their ministry is going far and wide and testimonies are happening through them and God is doing wonders in their life so stop criticizing and mind your biz and focus on how God will increase you and make you a blessing to your generation.

Toks2008:


See reasoning...*pukes*

Did you read that question at all?

Comparing pastoral calling to showbiz and politics as well as millionaires...how dumb.

Can you juxtapose how a musician makes his or her money to how the church makes its money?

Is your brain sound enough to understand that churches are not taxed cos they are regarded as non profit organizations?

Do you have the mental capacity to comprehend that church income is mostly from members in terms of various types of giving?

let me leave you to your stpdity.

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

emiflex:
Well I am not judging anybody or Man of God but I want to correct some people's comment here. People are claiming that if you serve God then you are suppose to be wealthy and enjoy all riches of life. If that statement is true Africans should be the most wealthy people in the world but we all know that is not the case. These white people don't believe in religion anymore yet, they are living better. They don't have all these big men of god to preach the Bible to them, yet they are doing the right things and they are progressing.

Another problem I have with these so called pastors is that they are blind and never speak the truth to our politicians. If all these pastors we have in Africa speak the truth to these politicians I am sure Africa will not be like this.

My point is, Africans are just too gullible to believe everything these men of god teaches. It is too evident that most of them are for their selfish interest. There are so many churches out there yet wickedness all abound.

chuose2:


i beg which people?

the ones that rccg exploit?

i beggi, go siddon.

people dey shout say dem dey suffer.
Ein dey fly private jet, ein parishioners dey ride Okada

But God will judge Adeboye & co very soon, ein come don full.

shedybaba44:
okay wait make God judge since you no be God lawyer,just mind your own palava

chuose2:


I have the spirit of adoption as a son of God, hence I can speak on my fathers biz.

Adeboye is not for Jesus but his own pocket.

I thank God for Dr. Ijabla Raymond.

he opened my eyes to the eye in Adeboye.

Pity God had to use an unbeliever.

chuose2:


I have the spirit of adoption as a son of God, hence I can speak on my fathers biz.

Adeboye is not for Jesus but his own pocket.

I thank God for Dr. Ijabla Raymond.

he opened my eyes to the eye in Adeboye.

Pity God had to use an unbeliever.

shedybaba44:
it is to you according to your faith, when David had the privilege to slay saul he said far be from me for me to slay God's anointed even thou he was already anointed as king.#i rest my case

vizkiz:
Poverty mentality.

So it is okay for a millionaire, politician and a musician to have private jets but a pastor is subjected to suffering right?

Serving God doesn't mean you shouldn't enjoy things because the earth is the lord's and the fullness therein

Before most of you (seun inclusive) come to nairaland to type junk maybe you should just take a minute and go through the Bible then read with your IQ (if you have any) not just rush to prove a void point

chuose2:


No wonder, u no sabi bible!

God had already rejected saul!

1 Samuel 16:1
And the Lord said unto Samuel, How long wilt thou mourn for Saul, seeing I have rejected him from reigning over Israel!

Better wise up!

Adeboye is seeking his own,

2 Corinthians 12:14
for I seek not yours but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

Wiseup bro wiseup, Adeboye is a fraud.

shedybaba44:
i rest my case is to you according to your own faith and believe.