seXytOhbAd:


You're quite silly. Did the holidays wipe your brain? The op wants a separate sector for paramedics and you're there asking stupid questions. BTW, no doctor, or certified nurse will want to work as a paramedic. Stop quoting me if you have stupid questions to ask.

seXytOhbAd:
The write up was looking intelligent initially, till you brought up the NMA and her allies. That was where you started sounding myopic and quite silly. The paramedic health sector has not been fully established and you are already becoming polarized. Anyway, I'd like to ask you some questions. What is the guarantee that someday, the paramedic or emergency health workers won't go on strike when needed the most? Who is responsible for the initial training, regulation and discipline of paramedical workers? Because if they are to relieve SOME of the physician work load, and all medical doctors are expected to be able to do ALL emergency health protocols, what is the guarantee that we will not hear silly headlines later on about paramedics acting as doctors? There is a reason why there are A&E (Casualty) doctors. This is because no matter how advanced your life support training is, a paramedic CANNOT replace a doctor. If you don't believe, when on a flight, you hear the call for a doctor, stand up as a paramedic and watch your pride get dashed. I am not castigating or demeaning any profession, and I believe In teamwork, but doctors often get bashed for caring too much about patient health safety in Naija.
There is a reason why our health sector has not been diverse enough to create new jobs, and that is not because of the NMA. It is simply because our leaders are too busy spending 600M on Christmas lighting and such spending cannot sustain growth. Couple that with our bad roads, traffic holdups, and bad guys who may want to help you people "hold" the van in rough neighborhoods, you start to see why it is not working. Nice write up though.

zhyzhy:
How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples [s]under the direction and supervision of a doctor[/s] come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!






How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples [s]under the direction and supervision of a doctor[/s] come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!

Besides I don't understand this issue of fight over superiority. Who is fighting who abeg?

Mbediogu:


The paramedics advocate talked about training patients. Does he honestly understand the reasons and parameters used for sorting triage? Or he just wants to impress the readers. He was almost touching aspects of core professional medicine which is to say that when the chips are down, the will impersonate doctors without having the requisite training and experience. I know a nurse anaesthetist who is doing all sorts of surgery and killing people daily.

seXytOhbAd:


Another idiot who rushes into an argument without reading and processing.

Abbeylincson:
I think this matter should be moved to where it will gain more public attention. I mean maybe we can move to twitter hand of FGB, house of assembly so that they can see it. that's my recommendation

ability19:


Sir how can this be done you have spoken well.. You could as well. Share the info too

Abbeylincson:

create a tweet with this topic with #paramedics and post the link here for more broadcasting

zhyzhy:
How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples under the direction and supervision of a doctor come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!
Who told you med lab scientists work under d supervision of a doctor. Very soon u will tell us that pharmacist produce and dispense drugs under a doctors supervision.






How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples under the direction and supervision of a doctor come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!

Besides I don't understand this issue of fight over superiority. Who is fighting who abeg?

zhyzhy:
How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples under the direction and supervision of a doctor come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!
Who told you med lab scientists work under d supervision of a doctor. Very soon u will tell us that pharmacist produce and dispense drugs under a doctors supervision.






How does the laboratory scientist that takes and analyses body samples under the direction and supervision of a doctor come into this issue biko nu?

OP you've done well by talking of the need of para medics but bringing in the lab science man into this play is a no no!

Besides I don't understand this issue of fight over superiority. Who is fighting who abeg?

ability19:


I will do just that. But do I actually need to follow national assembly on twitter to get this do or I should tweet on my page

Abbeylincson:

u can follow them if you wish but tweet to them via their handle they will see it. and after that copy the link and past it here so that we can also tweet to them .

Johnjnr:
is a no no!
Who told you med lab scientists work under d supervision of a doctor. Very soon u will tell us that pharmacist produce and dispense drugs under a doctors supervision.

zhyzhy:


Seriously?

I don't believe you don't know, but now I have to assume you don't and educate you.
Have you heard of Pathologists? Look it up.

By the way this is what is obtainable in saner and more civilised climes. But in Nigeria were there are few medical doctors, your guess is as good as mine.

zhyzhy:


Seriously?

I don't believe you don't know, but now I have to assume you don't and educate you.
Have you heard of Pathologists? Look it up.

By the way this is what is obtainable in saner and more civilised climes. But in Nigeria were there are few medical doctors, your guess is as good as mine.

zhyzhy:


Seriously?

I don't believe you don't know, but now I have to assume you don't and educate you.
Have you heard of Pathologists? Look it up.

By the way this is what is obtainable in saner and more civilised climes. But in Nigeria were there are few medical doctors, your guess is as good as mine.

zhyzhy:




Let me say this in Basic English. A doctor or a pathologist asks (or directs ) a laboratory scientist to do a test on a body sample he sends to him.

A doctor or the pathologist also works on the result of the test he has asked the lab scientist to do, cause (besides being the leader of the Medical team or acting in a supervisory role in this regard) he has the clinical information of the patient who he manages or treats.


The patient is treated as a whole and not as a laboratory result!


Laboratory Scientists are very wonderful people and there should be no reason why they may feel any less so.

nelszx:


Yes they are the leader of the Medical team but they do not supervise or direct what to do. Medicare is team work with every player actively involved. No profession/professional directs nor supervise the work of another professional in another profession.

You do not direct me, the patients needs the service(s) as such sent to the laboratory not a form of direction when I'm not "boy-boy".

Pathologist provides consultative and the decision as regards diagnosis with the results generated by the MLS. So when you use the word direct/supervise it doesn't augur well.

Mtnmed:
Hi I just want to reply certain issues I could bring out, I am a paramedic in the university of Benin teaching hospital.

First I'll live to clarify that the reason for the post was to sensitize Nigerians about the missing part of "Nigeria's health system ". Paramedics are the guys that makes sure the patients gets to the hospital alive by administering care as the patient is been driven to the hospital in an "ambulance"

Many persons have asked, what is to say that paramedics will not one day rise up and claim to be doctors or nurses...the truth is that there is assurance because we are all human and human wants are insatiable but every sane person should understand the importance of each member of a team and all well trained medical person should understand his scope of practice and besides a better health system would be able to curb such scenario in the future

Us in the health sector should understand that the best way to care for the patient of to work as a team and as a structure of every team that exists there is always a team leader. In the health sector It is an unarguable fact that the doctors (physicians) are the head of the team but once of an attribute of a good team leader is to recognise the importance of every member of the team and all understand that respect is a two way street. It is taught in every team dynamics class that the team leader should respect the team member and vice versa.

Requesting a separate sector in the health system was never the intention of this piece. The paramedics are members of the emergency medical service EMS where the fire service the special rescue team etc are also members

I'll close my keyboard pad with admonishing us, every member of the health sector including doctors, nurses, pharmacist, pathologist, lab scientist paramedics that the reason we went through the stress and rigors of our various educational journey was to save the lives and keeping that in mind, having a well established EMS will reduce the number of persons that die at home, on the streets, brought into the hospital dead to the hospital and that of persons that die on arrival at the hospital.