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Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Atheists: 10:16am On Nov 24, 2009
When over a million people died in a period of 100 days where was god ? Why didn't he protect them ?
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by BADLEE: 10:19am On Nov 24, 2009
hahhahahahaha, which of the god(s) are you talking about ?
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nezan(m): 10:21am On Nov 24, 2009
Dont you worry, atheist, more will be condemned on judgement day including you!
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by DeepSight(m): 10:56am On Nov 24, 2009
Atheists:

When over a million people died in a period of 100 days where was god ? Why didn't he protect them ?

Of all the atheists on this forum, you have consistently been the most silly.

You see acts of human brutality: acts of man's inhumanity to man, and you begin to bleat about God?

What has God to do with the monstrosities of intelligent beings who are accorded free will?

When will you learn that we have free will exactly so that we can learn and develop over time through our mistakes?

Gosh, you do not inspire thought at all.

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Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Tudor6(f): 1:18pm On Nov 24, 2009
Deep Sight:

Of all the atheists on this forum, you have consistently been the most silly.

You see acts of human brutality: acts of man's inhumanity to man, and you begin to bleat about God?

What has God to do with the monstrosities of intelligent beings who are accorded free will?

When will you learn that we have free will exactly so that we can learn and develop over time through our mistakes?

Gosh, you do not inspire thought at all.
What exactly is your problem with this guy? You always pick on him. Isn't it obvious he's challenging the notion of the all good, powerful and merciful God presented by religions? Hell its the only god he knows for petes sake! And as such has asked a valid question.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Horus(m): 2:02pm On Nov 24, 2009
Atheists:

When over a million people died in a period of 100 days where was god ? Why didn't he protect them ?

This is a very good question that you are asking. But as you can see on this forum, stupid religious people are trying to find many reasons to avoid to answer your question.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by DeepSight(m): 2:25pm On Nov 24, 2009
@ Tudor -

Let's assume he is in fact talking about the Abrahamic God, who is stated to be good, merciful and loving.

What has that God to do with a situation where PEOPLE rise up and begin to kill each other en masse.

Is that the doing of man or of God?


And if you state that its God's fault since he made man - tell me, should he have made us robots? Would you be here today calling yourself an atheist if not for that very free will to decide what to brand yourself as?

So you excercise your free will, happily, and so does this charlatan called Mr. Atheist - and yet when you see other humans like your selves using that free will in a negative fashion - suddenly - "God did it!"

You will not credit God for the good you see around you, but you will attribute to him the evil you see around you. Can you not see that it is all the making of humans excersining their FREE WILL, and nothing to do with GOD? ? ? ?

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Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by JeSoul(f): 2:49pm On Nov 24, 2009
Deep Sight:

@ Tudor -

Let's assume he is in fact talking about the Abrahamic God, who is stated to be good, merciful and loving.

What has that God to do with a situation where PEOPLE rise up and begin to kill each other en masse.

Is that the doing of man or of God?


And if you state that its God's fault since he made man - tell me, should he have made us robots? Would you be here today calling yourself an atheist if not for that very free will to decide what to brand yourself as?

[size=14pt]So you excercise your free will, happily, and so does this charlatan called Mr. Atheist - and yet when you see other humans like your selves using that free will in a negative fashion - suddenly - "God did it!"

You will not credit God for the good you see around you, but you will attribute to him the evil you see around you. [/size]
Can you not see that it is all the making of humans excersining their FREE WILL, and nothing to do with GOD? ? ? ?
This deserves an award for post of the week. Don't be so hard on Atheist . . . remember God is responsible for his silliness too.

  To the average atheist on NL God doesn't exist, but yet He is somehow still responsible for the evil in the world.

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Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by ednut1(m): 2:52pm On Nov 24, 2009
He did nt hv cnn 2 see it. Hv u 4got he is based in israel
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by BADLEE: 3:00pm On Nov 24, 2009
JeSoul:

This deserves an award for post of the week. Don't be so hard on Atheist . . . remember God is responsible for his silliness too.

  To the average atheist on NL God doesn't exist, but yet He is somehow still responsible for the evil in the world.

@ Jesoul

Your god was responsible for that woman that died in the other thread, your god lost control , hahahhahahahahahha, what a god .
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Tudor6(f): 3:23pm On Nov 24, 2009
Deep Sight:

Can you not see that it is all the making of humans excersining their FREE WIL, and nothing to do with GOD
The question should be unto what end is he asking these questions? And its obviously to show that the idea of a powerful, all knowing , good, all perfect and merciful god as proposed by the religionists CANNOT EXIST based on the realities we have on ground. This is simply dispelling the god myth based on internal inconsistencies.

Its funny how y'all attribute all the good things to god and blame the bad on human "free will" and the devil (I wonder who created both )even when the bible clearly negates the free will idea.

If God can readily take responsibility for all the good things why not the evil?

A billionaire demonstrates the so called free will and donates $1bn to the church they all lift hands to heaven and say its the lords doing but shld it be used to fund genocide then we hear its free will. Crap!
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Tudor6(f): 3:42pm On Nov 24, 2009
As evidenced by that thread badlee is talking about, a fellow comes and says his mama is critically ill, God saved her life early that morning but she's still in a critical state and therefore asks NL for prayers, . The NL jesus freaks laid the BS pretty thich on how "it is well with her", "we put you in prayers", "its written you shall not die and bla bla bla". . . .only for the lady to die days later.

Now if God is given responsibility for her being lucky the first time, why is he not to be held responsible for her death? Surely if he saved her the first time, how come he couldn't do it again or better still heal her completely? Is that no failure and incompetence on the part of god despite the admonision from NL prayer warriors like Jesoul, vanitt, etc But no, the bible kissers came on with crap like "she's in paradise", "everything works for good to lovers of christ" and every other nonsense they could type

Truth is every good is. . . . Goddidit! but otherwise its our own fault. How convinient.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Tudor6(f): 3:43pm On Nov 24, 2009
For those who don't know where the whole drama took place. . . .here it is.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-354485.0.htmlnt.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Atheists: 6:26pm On Nov 24, 2009
Of all the atheists on this forum, you have consistently been the most silly.

You see acts of human brutality: acts of man's inhumanity to man, and you begin to bleat about God?

What has God to do with the monstrosities of intelligent beings who are accorded free will?

When will you learn that we have free will exactly so that we can learn and develop over time through our mistakes?

Gosh, you do not inspire thought at all.


Free will ? Where was the free will of the victims of the Rwandan genocide or holocaust ?
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by DeepSight(m): 7:22pm On Nov 24, 2009
Atheists:


Free will ? Where was the free will of the victims of the Rwandan genocide or holocaust ?

I SHUDDER at how stupid and jobless i myself must be, to bother responding to this.

But let me ask you: If you were to pick up a gun, and on account of the fact that you were jealous of your successful brother, shoot him dead - would God be responsible for that? Because that is exactly what happened in Rwanda on a mass scale.

Now you are asking: that brother that you have just killed - "what about his free will?".

This is the daftest question i have ever heard in my life. You just murdered the guy, depriving him of his free will, and you are asking "what about his free will?"

Are you mentally balanced? God is now responsible for your treachery?

Because that's what went on in Rwanda on a macro scale.

People rose up in ethnic jealousy and murdered millions of their country men, and thus deprived those victims of the free will given by God to all men - while you sit here and bleat that God is the one who has been negligent or cruel.

I charge you to give some dignity to your education and stop asking the dimmest witted questions conceivable.

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Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by DeepSight(m): 7:35pm On Nov 24, 2009
Tudór:

As evidenced by that thread badlee is talking about, a fellow comes and says his mama is critically ill, God saved her life early that morning but she's still in a critical state and therefore asks NL for prayers, . The NL jesus freaks laid the BS pretty thich on how "it is well with her", "we put you in prayers", "its written you shall not die and bla bla bla". . . .only for the lady to die days later.

Now if God is given responsibility for her being lucky the first time, why is he not to be held responsible for her death? Surely if he saved her the first time, how come he couldn't do it again or better still heal her completely? Is that no failure and incompetence on the part of god despite the admonision from NL prayer warriors like Jesoul, vanitt, etc But no, the bible kissers came on with crap like "she's in paradise", "everything works for good to lovers of christ" and every other nonsense they could type

Truth is every good is. . . . Goddidit! but otherwise its our own fault. How convinient.

Tudor - this is both lame and practically dishonest. Mr Athiests (supported by yourself) was the one who made insinuations about God being responsible for, or negligent regarding the genocide in Rwanda, blah blah blah. . . I DID NOT STATE THAT GOD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELIVERY OF MILK TO YOUR DOORSTEP THIS MORNING.

I only said that it is convenient to blame all the evil on an entity you believe does not exist.

For the record, i personally believe that God, the primordial core-egg of all existence, is and remains the embodiment of all natural laws. . . how we adjust to those natural laws is what leads to good or evil.

For example, God creates the law of gravity. Some people use that law to power water-dams for productive purposes. That is good. Some use that law to jump off a cliff in committing suicide. That may be bad.



God did not create either situation – the good one or the evil one: he created an adamantine necessary law; gravity – and if you are wise you will not jump off cliffs and blame God for your broken spinal cord. QED.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nobody: 7:42pm On Nov 24, 2009
When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' standing where it does not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that this will not take place in winter, because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+13&version=NIV



God is the same place He is when abuzola and other atheists and extremists say all types of blasphemy in the name of free speech.


If you take that to mean there's no God then kudos.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nellychari: 7:51pm On Nov 24, 2009
God was watching. God did everything to stop the war but the people choosed the war. Before the war, God had set before them life and death, and then asked them to choose life but they refused and choosed war instead. So don't ever blame God for this. God is not to be blamed.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Atheists: 7:59pm On Nov 24, 2009
God was watching. God did everything to stop the war but the people choosed the war. Before the war, God had set before them life and death, and then asked them to choose life but they refused and choosed war instead. So don't ever blame God for this. God is not to be blamed.


What did God do to stop the war If your god is all powerful then why couldn't he stop the war ? Pliz don't peddle the free will argument is has been debunked
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nellychari: 8:24pm On Nov 24, 2009
Dear atheist, thanks for your wonderful reply. Please, know that we are free moral agents. We are choice makers. And there is always a reaction or reward for every choice we make. God does not make choice for humans. He can only provides you with solution options. Again, they choosed war. God is not to be blamed
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nobody: 8:33pm On Nov 24, 2009
Atheists:


What did God do to stop the war If your god is all powerful then why couldn't he stop the war ? Pliz don't peddle the free will argument is has been debunked

you reason like a two year old.

what led to the war?

were you expecting God to suddenly paralyse the hands of the interhamwe before they could start their killing sprees?

explain yourself further and also state what you expected God to do- how exactly He should have stopped the war.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Nobody: 8:41pm On Nov 24, 2009
Atheists:


What did God do to stop the war If your god is all powerful then why couldn't he stop the war ? Pliz don't peddle the free will argument is has been debunked

Oh dear . . . this whinning reminds me of a little kid throwing a tantrum. What did God do to stop me from getting obses? If your God is all powerful then why didnt he slap my hands away from that extra piece of cake? Pls dont peddle the free will argument as it has been debunked . . .

EVEN THOUGH atheist is exercising that same "freewill" that he claims has been "debunked"? shocked

You wonder if some people are in dire need of logical reasoning classes.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by mamagee3(f): 8:55pm On Nov 24, 2009
Why can't seun ban all atheists on this forum? angry
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Tudor6(f): 9:25pm On Nov 24, 2009
Deep Sight:
Tudor.this is both lame and practically dishonest. Mr Athiests (supported by yourself) was the one who made insinuations about God being responsible for, or negligent regarding the genocide in Rwanda, blah blah blah. . . I DID NOT STATE THAT GOD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DELIVERY OF MILK TO YOUR DOORSTEP THIS MORNING.
I only said that it is convenient to blame all the evil on an entity you believe does not exist
You said and rightly so that we should assume he was talking about the abrahamic god, so what are you moaning about?

And as done by abrahamic religions God is credited with anything good that happens but evil is banished to the ranks of free will. If they can give credit to god for all the good and wonderful in humanity why can't god take responsibility for the evils?

PS: Dude this is the 21st century, nobody delivers milk to your doorstep. If you want one go suck a tit or find your way to the grocery store.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by DeepSight(m): 10:53pm On Nov 24, 2009
Tudór:

You said and rightly so that we should assume he was talking about the abrahamic god, so what are you moaning about?

And as done by abrahamic religions God is credited with anything good that happens but evil is banished to the ranks of free will. If they can give credit to god for all the good and wonderful in humanity why can't god take responsibility for the evils?


I take it you did not read this:

Deep Sight:


For example, God creates the law of gravity. Some people use that law to power water-dams for productive purposes. That is good. Some use that law to jump off a cliff in committing suicide. That may be bad.

God did not create either situation – the good one or the evil one: he created an adamantine necessary law; gravity – and if you are wise you will not jump off cliffs and blame God for your broken spinal cord. QED.[/b]

Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by manmustwac(m): 12:51am On Nov 25, 2009
So god created free will. Which means the hutus used thier freewill to kill the tutsis, the tutsis used thier freewill to run to churches and beg god to have mercy, god decided to ignore thier freewill and allowed the hutus to use thier freewill to enter the churches and kill the tutsis
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by bawomolo(m): 1:19am On Nov 25, 2009
Deep Sight:

Of all the atheists on this forum, you have consistently been the most silly.

You see acts of human brutality: acts of man's inhumanity to man, and you begin to bleat about God?

What has God to do with the monstrosities of intelligent beings who are accorded free will?

When will you learn that we have free will exactly so that we can learn and develop over time through our mistakes?

Gosh, you do not inspire thought at all.

i have a question deep sight. were does your concept of free-will come from? christianity?
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by Atheists: 2:20am On Nov 25, 2009
So god created free will. Which means the hutus used thier freewill to kill the tutsis, the tutsis used thier freewill to run to churches and beg god to have mercy, god decided to ignore thier freewill and allowed the hutus to use thier freewill to enter the churches and kill the tutsis Huh Huh


grin grin grin grin
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by finemocha(f): 2:30am On Nov 25, 2009
you know how the NRA says"guns aren't dangerous, people are" same thing applies here. we are all humans and we are in charge of our actions. each and every one of us is capable of creating tremendous harm to each other at any time of the day, regardless of race or gender. so rwanda, sierreleone, south africa, liberia, congo etc. those people chose to kill, nad torture their neighbors. for every vicitim that got butcher i believe deep down the perpetraitor had the opportunity to stop or continue and he continued. I think that little voice in our head that tells us "dude that's wrong" is God giving us the opportunity to make the right choice. SADLY WE NEVER LISTEN.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by ednut1(m): 3:06am On Nov 25, 2009
U guys saying god is nt 2 blame are deluded. Ur religions say only god can protect but am sure dos rwandans killed prayed an god did nt answer them cos he cant even hear them.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by ednut1(m): 3:07am On Nov 25, 2009
U guys saying god is nt 2 blame are deluded. Ur religions say only god can protect but am sure dos rwandans killed prayed an god did nt answer them cos he cant even hear them.
Re: Where Was God During The Rwandan Genocide ? by finemocha(f): 3:08am On Nov 25, 2009
@ednut


do u beleive in God, do you believe that he exists

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