OLAJADON:

can u mention a verse and stop being a hypocrite.

ImadeUReadThis:


You are reasoning from your anus and depending on half arsed recycled copy pasta from your Islamic forum

falopey:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.

(Now you can see why Muslims and Christians are not serving the same God. The god allah of Muslims says Muslims should kill Christians or non Muslims) One god is weaked asking to kill Christians while the other is loving.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed!  The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.

ImadeUReadThis:


That dude was just spewing global politics without knowing they (muslims) have been identified as the most gullible demograph in the world.

The same idiot supported ISIS against Assad because Assad is Shia.

Just leave these drones alone

Omudia:
Lol,, they can't even say this with a straight face. The world will soon gang up against Islam and thats when y'all will know what time it ism

Bujumbura:
I love it when people dare this folks and come to their section and tell them the truth.



Look at the nonsense that malware is spewing. The only muslims i enjoy re the Ahmadiyyas that abhor violence in all its ramifications

ImadeUReadThis:


That dude was just spewing global politics without knowing they (muslims) have been identified as the most gullible demograph in the world.

The same idiot supported ISIS against Assad because Assad is Shia.

Just leave these drones alone

RABIUSHILE04:


The gang up they've been ganging up since the beginning of creation Abi?!

Islaam is peace, we'll keep saying this till d end time.

Aliyu333:
You think there are no tons of violent verses in the bible?. The thing is you dont just take a statement and leave the one before it or that after and choose to make it realistic. No matter how hard honest and true muslims try to make you see how you people misunderstood jihad, you still won't believe and all effort becomes futile, and this is because of the hatred and full bigotry you have towards the religion.
Like a brother said earlier we are only suppose to fight back or kill when its a life for a life and interms of war. But then what do I know?, we believe what we want to and we owe no one apology for the lifes other people take cos we didnt do them and our religion didnt teach us that. Have you ever read the Tajweed of the Quran or did you just go to google and browse some verses to suit your interest?.
There are upto 1.6billion muslims in the world and the largest chunk of them are in indonesia, so if we are ordered as part of jihad to kill people unjustly, do you think there will be much of the world left?.
You can requote me to tell me how am all wrong, but truth is I don't care, cos as far as I know, thats not what Islam is about. Do you have a nice year.

Bujumbura:
You mean malware supported ISIS against Assad?



Hw does this muslims live with their religion

malware:


Writing words like Nonsense is quite easy. But coming up with meaningful argument is not everybody that can do it except exceptionally intelligent people..... Another disadvantage of the internet is giving mentally handicapped people unfettered access to people's intelligent discussions.

Bujumbura:
So you think all those incoherent bla bla you were making there makes you learned?


Until Islam do a rewrite of that quran and expunged those call to violence verses in it the next generation of muslims will be more hardened in terrorism than ISIS

malware:


If you have low IQ level like this why display it in Intelligent discussions of this nature... read and comprehend before commenting, please.

malware:


1. US invaded Iraq and killed their leader, US troops are still in Iraq allegedly fighting the so called ISIS, destroying Iraqi infrastructures in the process and yet the same US tagged Iraqis terrorists and banned them from entering the US while their nationals are still on the Iraqi soil.... Is there any fair play here?

2. The US also banned Iranians from entering their country.... Trump said you Iranians stay in your country, don't come anywhere close but yet the same US meddles in the internal affairs of Iran through sanctions just because the country test-fired missile weapons to test their military readiness in case of any external military aggression and the same US has stockpiles of nuclear war heads in it's arsenal, where is the fair play here?

3. I also heard that the same US recently attacked some Yemeni cities in it's so called war against terror, a country that was included in the travel ban list... Mr. Trump you said you don't need Yemenis in your country then why did you send your troops to destroy their's? is that your own definition of fair play?

4. The United States had dropped the bombs on Japan with the consent of the United Kingdom as outlined in the Quebec Agreement. The two bombings, which killed at least 129,000 people, remain the only use of nuclear weapons for warfare in history.source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki. this simply showed that the US alone had killed more people than the so called terrorist it claimed to be fighting and yet Japan has not banned US citizens from visiting their country so who is fooling who?

The most painful part of it is how some people, mostly Christians chose to buy the US definition of terrorists when in real sense the US is the biggest terrorist and the major sponsor of state terrorism.

The only terror attack the US is using to justify it's clamp down on Muslim countries was the September 11 attack which was allegedly masterminded by Osama Bin Laden, a person trained and sponsored by the same US... Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) program to arm and finance the Jihadi warriors, mujahideen, in Afghanistan from 1979 to 1989, prior to and during the military intervention by the USSR in support of its client, the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone.

So from the foregoing, who is the real world terrorist?

malware:


Let me come down to your level. Did you agree that the US killed about 200,000 people in nuclear attack in Japan?

pissreligiion:

I share your sentiments about the US being overly involved in other countries matters....... But why are the muslim countries a willing tool in the hands of the US?
No one country in crisis that doesn't have some form of islamic tendencies, Nigeria, Kenya, Somalia, Sudan, the middle east etc. Kilode?

Bujumbura:
You mean malware supported ISIS against Assad?



Hw does this muslims live with their religion

lovat:
You will continue to pay out $10,000 until you go broke because a lot of verses in the quran promotes killing of infidels

falopey:

The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.

(Now you can see why Muslims and Christians are not serving the same God. The god allah of Muslims says Muslims should kill Christians or non Muslims) One god is weaked asking to kill Christians while the other is loving.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out.

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."


Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His cause" Religion of Peace, indeed!  The verse explicitly refers to "rows" or "battle array," meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict.

Bujumbura:
The US is being blamed by a so called intelligent you for sponsoring Islamic terrorist and at the same time you are regurgitating that Islam is a religion of peace while US as a Christian nation will now turn your Quran against you



Just take a peep into your life

malware:


You see your problem, simple English you can't understand... STOP QUOTING ME ABEG!!! you don't even know Wikipedia.org and you wan't to argue with me. Stay off my back, I am not your mate.

ImadeUReadThis:


All Sunni Muslims on this forum, in Nigeria and the world over supported ISIS in their quest to destabilise Shia majority Iraq and uproot the Alawite Shia govt of Assad!

Fact!

Aliyu333:
Do you even know there are four type of Jihad?? No you can't, we concocted all those exceptions? Well Meerleeq just got you told.

Of course there are similarities between the old testament of the bible and Quran. Hence the verses you are talking about. The old testament was the Jewish scripture before Jesus came. The new testament is the scripture of Christians because that's where you see the life lived by Jesus and his teachings. The coming of Jesus was like a revolution to make changes to those heinous laws of the old testament.
Really?? You think am a newbie?

Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

And Jesus also said:

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.
Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).

Matthew 10:34 Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

long as those verses in the quran that expressly attack Christians, Jews and other non Muslims and that says they should be killed or be seen as enemies exist.-- Yea in relation to the so enemy loving bible right?

Mr Anderson summarises: "Of the three texts, the content in the Old Testament appears to be the most violent.

"Killing and destruction are referenced slightly more often in the New Testament (2.8%) than in the Quran (2.1%), but the Old Testament clearly leads—more than twice that of the Quran—in mentions of destruction and killing (5.3%)."
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html
And lastly do you know according to facts(from FBI statistics to loon watch): Terrorism acts have been carried out 90+% more by non-muslims, but then why would you know that?

ImadeUReadThis:



If there is anything I love about the original article on this thread is that so-called moderate Muslims won't be hiding behind their lie that Islam is peaceful.


The sooner all you closet bokos come out and show your true colors that day all the slumbering christians will wake up and see you guys for what you are - terrorists!

malware:


Let me come down to your level. Did you agree that the US killed about 200,000 people in nuclear attack in Japan?

falopey:


But killing of the so called infidel is one of the four as seen in terrorist acts today.

Jesus came to fulfill the law. [s]The question you need to ask yourself is, "which of the laws?". " Is it every law of the old testament Jesus was referring to?". Is he talking about every law without leaving the odd ones our as you quoted in those verses. The answer is that Jesus left the odd ones out.[/s]

In John 8:4-11
“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

Jesus told them that whoever has not committed such sin before should cast the first stone. That was how all of them left one after the other. And Jesus told her to sin no more. That's an instance where Jesus had to publicly break the odd old testament law which is a sharia law of the Muslims.

Why didn't Jesus allow them to stone her because that's what the law say. He did not come to fulfill the barbaric law that stone a woman and let the man off the hook. We have seen instances in the north where women were to be stoned under sharia while the man that committed it with her was left alone. Islamic hypocracy of the highest order.

So was Jesus talking about every law no matter what? Definetly NO he refused to fulfill some of the odd and unfair law practised before him.

So ask yourself, can a woman committee adultery or formication alone? What happened to the man too? That's the hypocrisy of sharia law and Muslims.

What about when Jesus healed someone on a Sabbath day. Of course it's against the law to do such on Sabbath day.

Mark 1:1-12 Jesus stood against the law that encourage willful divorce. The law like sharia allowed the Jews to divorce their wife. But Jesus spoke against it.

I can go on citing instances where Jesus refused to fulfill barbaric laws like sharia law. That is to tell you Jesus did not come to fulfill the odd or bad aspects of the law but the perfect ones.

Can you tell me in the law or teaching of Jesus in new testament where killing whatsoever for whatever reason was commanded to Christians like Muhammed did to Muslims? Killing was commanded in the Jewish law of the old testament, but Jesus spoke against it and never commanded Christians to take life for whatever reason. Jesus used a lot of parables to teach his disciples. Non of his parable is a command to kill. We do not see where he took away peace from the world or use sword for whatever reason.

falopey:


But killing of the so called infidel is one of the four as seen in terrorist acts today.

Jesus came to fulfill the law. The question you need to ask yourself is, "which of the laws?". " Is it every law of the old testament Jesus was referring to?". Is he talking about every law without leaving the odd ones our as you quoted in those verses. The answer is that Jesus left the odd ones out.

In John 8:4-11
“Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”

Jesus told them that whoever has not committed such sin before should cast the first stone. That was how all of them left one after the other. And Jesus told her to sin no more. That's an instance where Jesus had to publicly break the odd old testament law which is a sharia law of the Muslims.

Why didn't Jesus allow them to stone her because that's what the law say. He did not come to fulfill the barbaric law that stone a woman and let the man off the hook. We have seen instances in the north where women were to be stoned under sharia while the man that committed it with her was left alone. Islamic hypocracy of the highest order.

So was Jesus talking about every law no matter what? Definetly NO he refused to fulfill some of the odd and unfair law practised before him.

So ask yourself, can a woman committee adultery or formication alone? What happened to the man too? That's the hypocrisy of sharia law and Muslims.

What about when Jesus healed someone on a Sabbath day. Of course it's against the law to do such on Sabbath day.

Mark 1:1-12 Jesus stood against the law that encourage willful divorce. The law like sharia allowed the Jews to divorce their wife. But Jesus spoke against it.

I can go on citing instances where Jesus refused to fulfill barbaric laws like sharia law. That is to tell you Jesus did not come to fulfill the odd or bad aspects of the law but the perfect ones.

Can you tell me in the law or teaching of Jesus in new testament where killing whatsoever for whatever reason was commanded to Christians like Muhammed did to Muslims? Killing was commanded in the Jewish law of the old testament, but Jesus spoke against it and never commanded Christians to take life for whatever reason. Jesus used a lot of parables to teach his disciples. Non of his parable is a command to kill. We do not see where he took away peace from the world or use sword for whatever reason.

Bujumbura:
How many millions did Ottoman Turks did to Armenians? Just take a back seat with your reverse history you got from one of this Sharia University in Sudan