Toks2008:
It has been a subject of debate for many years that the weekly religious gathering of christians ought to be on saturday which is considered to be the original sabbath day the last day of the week and not sunday which happens to be the first day of the week.

Before we go on let's quickly read these very important biblical passages.

"Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord” (Romans 14:5–6a )."

“But now that you know God or rather are known by God — how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years” (Galatians 4:9–10 ).

From the passages above we can see clearly that whether you worship on Saturday or Sunday and whether you choose to worship God everyday, it's absolutely your choice and there is no need to be enslaved by the act of keeping a special day.

As for the reason many christians worship on sunday i believe an examination of New Testament passages shows us important points:

1.The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ “canceled the written code, with its regulations” (Colossians 2:14 ).

2) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1 , 9 , 10 ; Mark 16:9 ;Luke 24:1 , 13 , 15 ; John 20:19 , 26 ).

3).The new testament never mentioned any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that “on the first day of the week we came together to break bread.” In 1 Corinthians 16:2
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Oblitz:
the Sabbath is the fourth commandment in the ten commandments. How then was it singled out and abolished on the cross?

Oblitz:

Instead of abolishing the Sabbath, He carefully taught how it should be observed. (Matthew 12:1-13.)He taught His disciples that they should do nothing upon the Sabbath day but what was “lawful” (Matthew 12:12.)He instructed His apostles that the Sabbath should be prayerfully regarded forty years after His resurrection. (Matthew 24:20.)The pious women who had been with Jesus carefully kept the seventh day after His death. (Luke 23:56.)Thirty years after Christ's resurrection, the Holy Spirit' expressly calls it "the Sabbath day,"(Acts 13:14.)Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, called it the "Sabbath day" in A.D. 45. (Acts 13:27.) Did not Paul know? Or shall we believe modern teachers, who affirm that it ceased to be the Sabbath at the resurrection of Christ?Luke, the inspired Christian historian, writing as late as A.D. 62, calls it the "Sabbath day." (Acts 13:44.)The Gentile converts called it the Sabbath. (Acts 13:42.)In the great Christian council, A.D. 49, in the presence of the apostles and thousands of disciples, James calls it the "sabbath day." (Acts 15:21)It was customary to hold prayer meetings upon that day. (Acts 16:13.)Paul read the Scriptures in public meetings on that day. (Acts 17:2, 3.)It was his custom to preach upon that day. (Acts 17:2,3.)The Book of Acts alone gives a record of his holding eighty-four meetings upon that day. (See Acts 13:14, 44; 16:13;17:2; 18:4. 11.)There was never any dispute between the Christians and the Jews about the Sabbath day. This is proof that the Christians still observed the same day that the Jews did.In all their accusations against Paul, they never charged him with disregarding the Sabbath day. Why did they not, if he did not keep it?But Paul himself expressly declared that he had kept the law. “Neither against the law of the Jews, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, have I offended any thing at all." Acts 25:8. How could this be true if he had not kept the Sabbath?The Sabbath is mentioned in the New Testament fifty-nine times, and always with respect, bearing the same title it had in the Old Testament, “the Sabbath day.”Not a word is said anywhere in the New Testament about the Sabbath's being abolished, done away, changed, or anything of the kind.

Oblitz:
God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use - the seventh day for common labor?No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modem Christians do differently from Bible Christians?There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22, 23.)The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”Matthew 5:17Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same tune they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

40 Bible Facts Concerning the First Day of the Week

The very first thing recorded In the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. (Genesis l: l-5.) The Creator Himself did this. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. (Exodus 20.8-11.) Is it wrong to obey God?None of the patriarchs ever kept it.None of the holy prophets ever kept it.By the express command of-God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.God Himself calls it a "working" day. (Ezekiel 46:1.)God did not rest upon it.He never blessed it.Christ did not rest upon it.Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day’s work on Sunday.The apostles worked upon it during the same time.The apostles never rested upon it.Christ never blessed it.It has never been blessed by any divine authority.It has never been sanctified.No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. “Where no law is, there is no transgression.”Romans 4:15 (See also 1 John 3:4.)The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.No penalty is provided for its violation.No blessing is promised for its observance.No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?It is never called the Christian Sabbath.It is never called the Sabbath day at all.It is never called the Lord’s day.It is never called even a rest day.No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?It is simply called “first day of the week.”Jesus never-mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. (Matthew 28:1;Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1;John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.)Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. (1Corinthians 16:2.)In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. (Acts 20:5-12.)There is not intimation that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.It was not their custom to meet on that day.There was no requirement to break bread on that day.We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. (Acts 20:7.)That was done in the night-after midnight. (Verses 7-11.) Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day (Acts 2:42-46.)The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. (Matthew 15:1-9.) Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. (Romans 6:3-5.)

Oblitz:
God has never given permission to any man to work upon it. Reader, by what authority do you use - the seventh day for common labor?No Christian of the New Testament, either before or after the resurrection, ever did ordinary work upon the seventh day. Find one case of that kind, and we will yield the question. Why should modem Christians do differently from Bible Christians?There is no record that God has ever removed His blessing or sanctification from the seventh day.As the Sabbath was kept in Eden before the fall, so it will be observed eternally in the new earth after the restitution. (Isaiah 66:22, 23.)The seventh-day Sabbath was an important part of the law of God, as it came from His own mouth, and was written by His own finger upon stone at Sinai. (See Exodus 20.) When Jesus began His work, He expressly declared that He had not come to destroy the law. “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets.”Matthew 5:17Jesus severely condemned the Pharisees as hypocrites for pretending to love God, while at the same tune they made void one of the Ten Commandments by their tradition. The keeping of Sunday is only a tradition of men.

40 Bible Facts Concerning the First Day of the Week

The very first thing recorded In the Bible is work done on Sunday, the first day of the week. (Genesis l: l-5.) The Creator Himself did this. If God made the earth on Sunday, can it be wicked for us to work on Sunday?God commands men to work upon the first day of the week. (Exodus 20.8-11.) Is it wrong to obey God?None of the patriarchs ever kept it.None of the holy prophets ever kept it.By the express command of-God, His holy people used the first day of the week as a common working day for 4,000 years, at least.God Himself calls it a "working" day. (Ezekiel 46:1.)God did not rest upon it.He never blessed it.Christ did not rest upon it.Jesus was a carpenter (Mark 6:3), and worked at His trade until He was thirty years old. He kept the Sabbath and worked six days in the week, as all admit. Hence He did many a hard day’s work on Sunday.The apostles worked upon it during the same time.The apostles never rested upon it.Christ never blessed it.It has never been blessed by any divine authority.It has never been sanctified.No law was ever given to enforce the keeping of it, hence it is no transgression to work upon it. “Where no law is, there is no transgression.”Romans 4:15 (See also 1 John 3:4.)The New Testament nowhere forbids work to be done on it.No penalty is provided for its violation.No blessing is promised for its observance.No regulation is given as to how it ought to be observed. Would this be so if the Lord wished us to keep it?It is never called the Christian Sabbath.It is never called the Sabbath day at all.It is never called the Lord’s day.It is never called even a rest day.No sacred title whatever is applied to it. Then why should we call it holy?It is simply called “first day of the week.”Jesus never-mentioned it in any way, never took its name upon His lips, so far as the record shows.The word Sunday never occurs in the Bible at all.Neither God, Christ, nor inspired men ever said one word in favor of Sunday as a holy day.The first day of the week is mentioned only eight times in all the New Testament. (Matthew 28:1;Mark 16:2,9; Luke 24:1;John 20:1, 19; Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2.)Six of these texts refer to the same first day of the week.Paul directed the saints to look over their secular affairs on that day. (1Corinthians 16:2.)In all the New Testament we have a record of only one religious meeting held upon that day, and even this was a night meeting. (Acts 20:5-12.)There is not intimation that they ever held a meeting upon it before or after that.It was not their custom to meet on that day.There was no requirement to break bread on that day.We have an account of only one instance in which it was done. (Acts 20:7.)That was done in the night-after midnight. (Verses 7-11.) Jesus celebrated it on Thursday evening (Luke 22), and the disciples sometimes did it every day (Acts 2:42-46.)The Bible nowhere says that the first day of the week commemorates the resurrection of Christ. This is a tradition of men, which contradicts the law of God. (Matthew 15:1-9.) Baptism commemorates the burial and resurrection of Jesus. (Romans 6:3-5.)

Lady39:
Yes sir Mr. Oblitz....u r 100 percent correct..

Lady39:
Hi Sir Toks2008,
Oh I have no idiosyncracies....& I guess we're reading from the same KJV Bible with the same scriptures.....however I will "agree to disagree".

Toks2008:

The Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law (Galatians 4:1-26 ;
Romans 6:14 ). Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian—be it Saturday or Sunday.

Splinz:


Sorry sir, this comment of yours reeks of ignorance. Please no offense.

However, I don't really know if it is ignorance or sheer mischief. I don't also know where you get the understanding that the Sabbath was given to Israel, when Jesus Himself said the "Sabbath was made for- given to man" (Mark 2:27). He didn't say it was made for a specific people but for MAN!- all inclusive!

Now, one only need look at the origin of the Sabbath to know why it is or was made for man. Genesis 2:2 is the beginning of the Sabbath, right at the very beginning of creation. Note, God didn't just rest on that day and pass it on as an example, He blessed/hallowed/sanctified the Sabbath as a holy time, which means the Sabbath day is not just like any other day but a sanctified—set aside day for holy uses! No other day bears such blessedness and the argument that "we don't stop worshiping God after the Sabbath—we worshiped God everyday" doesn't stand because a command is a command. Keeping the Sabbath is a commandment! So, before there was any Israelite to keep the Sabbath, those before Israel (Enoch, Abraham, etc) have already kept it!

And what is it you mean by the Sabbath not given to the Church? Understand. While it is true that the New Testament Church started in AD 31, the Church had already existed in the wilderness, right in the days of Moses! Listen: "This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness... " (Acts 7:38, KJV). The "assembly in the wilderness" was also the Church! And the New Testament Church as we have it today is built directly "upon the foundation of the apostles (New Testament) and prophets (Old Testament), and Jesus Christ Himself being the Chief cornerstone" (Ephesians 2:20). The Church is built on both the teachings of the apostles and prophets, i.e, there's no Church without the Old Testament! Please grasp this understanding.

Again, what do you mean by Christians are freed from the bondage of the law? Is this law the same Law described as "So then, the law is holy, and the commandment is holy, righteous and good?" (Romans 7:12). If the Law which is called "righteous" is done away because it is a burden (on the contrary, God said His laws are not burdensome, 1 John 5:3), what are you then to walk on as a Christian—unrighteousness?

Understand. The Ten Commandments were not called the law of Moses, but rather the law of God. The law of Moses consisted of: (1) the civil laws—the statutes and judgments that Moses relayed to the people from God, recorded in Exodus 21-23 and the remaining books of the Law—and (2) the ritualistic laws (Greek: ergon) added later, summarized in Hebrews 9:10. These ordinances regulated the Levitical sacrifices (Lev. 1-7) and related duties. Ergon means “works,” as in the “works of the law” (Gal. 2:16). This referred to the labor involving Levitical rituals abolished by Christ’s sacrifice. These were the set of laws abolished by Christ's sacrifice!

Finally, know that if you say that the Law (10th) has been done away, it therefore means that sin is death too, i.e, there's no more sin, since sin is the breaking of the law (1 John 3:4). And like Paul said, "sin is not imputed when there is no law" (Romans 5:13). So sir, when you say Christians are freed from the law, you're saying in essence that Christians are without sins—commits sins no more—sinless.

Let me leave you with this truth from apostle John: "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us" (1 John 1:.

cc:
Oblitz is doing a great job. May the Lord give you more. Lady39, I sight you too.

Toks2008:


Sorry I only engage in mature discussion void of sarcasm and unwarranted egocentricism.

Lady39:
Oh no problem Sir Toks2008...all's well & good with me...I'm sure the same applies to u...
Sir Splinz....well done in two ways (scriptural facts & humility).

Splinz:

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I am sorry if my response offends you. We're all learning, not puffed up.

Lady39:
Sir Splinz....well done in two ways (scriptural facts & humility).

Toks2008:
It has been a subject of debate for many years that the weekly religious gathering of christians ought to be on saturday which is considered to be the original sabbath day the last day of the week and not sunday which happens to be the first day of the week.

Before we go on let's quickly read these very important biblical passages.

"Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord” (Romans 14:5–6a )."

“But now that you know God or rather are known by God — how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years” (Galatians 4:9–10 ).

From the passages above we can see clearly that whether you worship on Saturday or Sunday and whether you choose to worship God everyday, it's absolutely your choice and there is no need to be enslaved by the act of keeping a special day.

As for the reason many christians worship on sunday i believe an examination of New Testament passages shows us important points:

1.The Jewish Sabbath was abolished at the cross where Christ “canceled the written code, with its regulations” (Colossians 2:14 ).

2) Whenever Christ appears in His resurrected form and the day is mentioned, it is always the first day of the week (Matthew 28:1 , 9 , 10 ; Mark 16:9 ;Luke 24:1 , 13 , 15 ; John 20:19 , 26 ).

3).The new testament never mentioned any Sabbath (Saturday) gatherings by believers for fellowship or worship. However, there are clear passages that mention the first day of the week. For instance, Acts 20:7 states that “on the first day of the week we came together to break bread.” In 1 Corinthians 16:2

Paul urges the Corinthian believers “on the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income.” Since Paul designates this offering as “service” in 2 Corinthians 9:12 , this collection must have been linked with the Sunday worship service of the Christian assembly.

4).Historically Sunday, not Saturday, was the normal meeting day for Christians in the church, and its practice dates back to the first century.

The Sabbath was given to Israel, not the church. The Sabbath is still Saturday, not Sunday, and has never been changed. But the Sabbath is part of the Old Testament Law, and Christians are free from the bondage of the Law (Galatians 4:1-26 ;
Romans 6:14 ). Sabbath keeping is not required of the Christian—be it Saturday or Sunday.

In conclusion,we are to worship God every day, not just on Saturday or Sunday.

blueAgent:





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