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Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
LightandDarkness: why do you atheists like to lie to yourselves? Are you idiots living in bubbles of self delusion? You clowns really believe a lot of people will decide to live right when they know there will be no repercussions for bad behaviour? |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by jonbellion(m): 2:34pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
NLmember:lol That's the beauty of religion It keeps the sociopaths and potential serial killers in check 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by LiberaDeus: 3:36pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
NLmember: You didnt read nor try to understand what i wrote there. Firstly, you have no concrete proof or study that shows that just a tiny margin of people can live morally without a fear of god. If there is such a study, please show me the link to it. You just reason things out based on your own myopic reasoning. Please am waiting for a link that shows a study conducted on freethinkers which shows that just a tiny fraction of them can live morally without god. I can help you out by pointing real life examples, countries like Japan, sweden, denmark, china etc have a population of freethinkers that exceeds the 40% mark by a reasonable margin but am sure you wont argue with the fact that these societies are much more civil, peaceful and enjoy a far lesser crime rate all without the fear of your sky bogeyman. Instead of you to ask the right question which is - What makes humans behave morally? Well let me list out things that will ensure morality in human societies 1. Empathy for members of our species 2. Strong laws that enforce tangible punishment 3. Strong institutions that have grown over a period of time through trial and error 4. High level of intelligence in a population The above mentioned factors are not made stronger by religion. The factor you have been hammering about which is number 2 on my list( a fear of punishment) is something that freethinkers have in equal measure with religious people. The laws setup by human beings are 100 times more effective than a religious fear of god. A perfect example will be nigeria Most people in nigeria are religious people therefore they have an excessive fear of god Our institutions are weak and law enforcement is a joke here Now do the little experiment of dropping your phone in the middle of ojuelegba or a bundle of money and lets see if you will see it after 20 minutes. In such a case, what caused the immoral act of theft? Its clear that such acts will always occur where the institutions are weak no matter the strength of the religious adherence in the country. Kindly repeat the same experiment in japan and compare results. The moment i want to do business with anyone and he tells me he is a Pastor, thats the end. You religious people are the most unstable, immoral people on the planet. Thats why where you guys dominate is always filled with immorality counter to your claims of morality. You keep hammering on the fear of god, what if your god requires you to do something that we term objectively immoral like suicide bombing or drinking dettol? With your logic of taking orders from any so called virtual deity that always needs a man to speak for it, imagine the disaster that has been caused because of the wrong orders coming from that deity or its servants. The funny thing is that god never speaks or appears to anyone, it has to be one of his trusted conmen. This fact makes you people very dangerous, you guys can ; 1. Deny medicare to your sick child to show faith 2. Can shun your sick mother because you believe she is a witch 3. Can steal money and pay tithe to your church 4. can kill, steal, rape and sell girls into slavery and see it as the holy will of god 5. Conduct slave trade for a period of 5 centuries and justify it with your bible 6. Rape little boys and get away with it 7. Colonize nations under the pretext of giving them the light of the gospel You guys can do all these and not even feel a thing in your conscience and even if you feel bad, you just have to ask for forgiveness and in 2 seconds you feel better about yourself and you dont even try to make up for your crimes. Thats why religious people are dangerous. 8 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 4:36pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
urheme:Dude, it's obvious to anyone here. If you want to believe he's real; well... Your cup of tea |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 4:48pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:How... If I tell you right now that I have a teapot made of gold and you just have to believe me and worship the teapot because any one who does not will burn in raging hot scalding water; will you believe me sire Anyhow, is religion the prime and other defining criterion of a person to you? How then do you deal with muslims and traditionalists then After all, they don't believe in your version of God. Atheists are even better than those who claim to believe God but in their hearts they say He does not exist.Something must be wrong with me. I keep failing to see sense in your posts 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 5:11pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
Liberadeus, i didnt read your long stupid essay. You think I have time to stay online arguing with atheists? I didnt read it and I will stick to my myopic reasoning thank you very much. No way in hell will I ever trust an atheist. Atheists can be moral my arse. Rubbish. Bunch of reprobates claiming moral. |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by jonbellion(m): 5:17pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
NLmember:okay He crushed your myopic reasoning though Real hard Bye 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 5:21pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
jonbellion: like I care about the opinions of reprobates. Bye too bish |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 9:54pm On Feb 16, 2017 |
NLmember:If you don't care why create the topic then What is wrong with you religious trolls 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:14am On Feb 17, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Bingo ! The emboldened text explains why I said that . Without a civilized society or the watchful eyes of the law , an atheist is a ravaging viscous beast with despicable immoral tendencies like murder 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:29am On Feb 17, 2017 |
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Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:38am On Feb 17, 2017 |
UyiIredia: The great Uyi , the quality of an argument is not based on the arguerers academic qualifications , personal achievements , character etc . I mean Stephen hawking said , with all his qualitfications and IQ , that the universe created itself - that's a illogical absurdity . He was mocked and ridiculed of course for the statement . The point is , since an atheist does not have any moral compass even though he acknowledges objective morals and duties -empathy , kindness , compassion , forgiveness because obviously these are stronger inherited biological bias as we have the instinct for altruism - he shouldn't and can't be trusted . 2 Likes |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 7:46am On Feb 17, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:you and whoever liked your posts are olodos. Intellectual schizophrenia is a nonexistent condition. |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by Nobody: 7:48am On Feb 17, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:you bloody hypocrite. do you remember how long you pissed me off by insinuating that I was a secondary school student? 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:52am On Feb 17, 2017 |
SirWere: If I have to prove to you that I am what I am before you can trust me then I cannot be your friend. SirWere: The reason is because we use different spectacles to see the evidence before us. 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:55am On Feb 17, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: For instance, if the Government decriminalises rape as a crime you will see many atheists gleefully taking rape as a norm. 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by jonbellion(m): 9:34am On Feb 17, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU:what nonsense is this There are athiests that reject evolution and there are thirstic evolutionists Stop this stupid false dichotomy |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:35am On Feb 17, 2017 |
NLmember: Exactly . The law deters them from crime . Every atheist has a nihilistic tendency . It's like a ticking time bomb waiting to explode : Take away social order and see the true color of the atheist . 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:37am On Feb 17, 2017 |
Teempakguy: I simply wanted to know how your exams were and you took umbrage at simple just act of solicitude . Cheer up buddy . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by adoyi8: 11:48am On Feb 17, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: Actually as an atheist, even if the government decriminalises rape as a crime, I wouldn't rape anybody but if this verse from the bible is used as the basis for punishment, Then I will not waste my time toasting any fine girl, I will just rape her and get married to her. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days." |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by LiberaDeus: 12:09pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
NLmember:Thank you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by lepasharon(f): 12:46pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
LiberaDeus:Lol |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by LiberaDeus: 1:22pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
lepasharon: Nne no dey quote me oh. You know you are my crush on this forum and you are quoting me. How will I focus at work now till 5pm Happy friday 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by lepasharon(f): 4:41pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
LiberaDeus: Lool Awwwww im blushing |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by LiberaDeus: 8:37pm On Feb 17, 2017 |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by lepasharon(f): 9:38am On Feb 18, 2017 |
LiberaDeus: Loool I no dey go |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by bennyann: 2:20pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
LiberaDeus: Like seriously? Is this for real? |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by UyiIredia(m): 3:35pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
OLAADEGBU: You can start by comparing rape committed by Christians versus those by atheists. Do the research come back to me with your results. I'll be waiting. 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:36pm On Feb 18, 2017 |
UyiIredia: Christians do not commit rape. You should understand that Christians are not sinners and sinners are not Christians. Its either you are a Christian or not. Are you a Christian? |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by ScienceWatch: 4:05pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
urheme:You make great points URHEME ! He never gave any reason, He weakly shout danger but without evidence. Atheist are deeply divided and without powerful leadership. Their failed prophet of Atheism, Richard Dawkins is sulking in a corner somewhere because His plan to recruit enough famous people to help him destroy Islam and Christianity has failed. Atheism has once again failed its members. 1 Like |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by ScienceWatch: 4:11pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
urheme:It is typical how these Atheists deal with problems in their ranks. One will shout "He is a troll" the other will shout "He is sciencewatch alter-ego" while the other one says "He is Pidgin2 or Kingebukasblog". 2 Likes |
Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by ScienceWatch: 5:36pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
LiberaDeus:This is what LibraDeus say about Atheist countries, "I can help you out by pointing real life examples, countries like Japan, sweden, denmark, china etc have a population of freethinkers that exceeds the 40% mark by a reasonable margin but am sure you wont argue with the fact that these societies are much more civil, peaceful and enjoy a far lesser crime rate all without the fear of your sky bogeyman." Without the help of the Sky bogeyman the following terrible crimes were done in these Atheist countries. 2016 crime stats for the countries he mentioned are; Japan : (CNN)At least 19 people were killed and 26 injured in a stabbing spree at a facility for disabled people west of Tokyo, making it one of Japan's deadliest mass killings since World War II. Nine men and 10 women, ranging in age from 18 to 70, were killed in the attack. Officer Satomi Kurihara of the Sagamihara Fire Department confirmed the death toll at the Tsukui Yamayuri-en facility in Sagamihara, a residential area approximately 40 kilometers (25 miles) west of the capital. Sweden : That’s according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), whose preliminary figures suggest that the overall number of crimes reported in Sweden during the last year was around 1.5 million, a 6,470 increase compared to 2015. When broken down to specific categories, reported crimes against an individual increased by seven percent, rising to 275,000. Denmark : Shocking A 32 year old, heavily pregnant woman was killed in Herlev, west of Copenhagen, Denmark on Friday night, allegedly with a knife and an axe. According to Ekstra Bladet, the woman, in the seventh month of pregnancy, was walking her sister’s dog when she was killed. Police believe that the murder occurred between 18.30 and 19:30 on Friday night. China : THE Chinese government continues to carry out mass killings of innocent people in order to obtain their organs for transplants, a damning new report reveals. The report — by former Canadian politician David Kilgour, human rights lawyer David Matas, and journalist Ethan Gutmann — shows that organ transplants are carried out in China 10 times more than official government figures reveal. According to the report, the tens of thousands of organ transplants not reported by the government, are sourced from executed prisoners of conscience who were locked up for their religious or political beliefs. |
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